2.98 GPA 161 LSAT Forum

[Mack.Hambleton]

Even if you were a URM I would still say to try to bring the score up by about three points. You need 165-170. Sticker at any schools but the "top-10" (i.e. T14 minus GULC and Cornell) is risky.

why minus cornell? It has better biglaw and fed clerk (64%) than Michigan, Northwestern, and Berkeley...

[LawGirlAtx]

[quote=Want to ultimately transfer to T-14 [/quote]

While transferring to a T14 school isn't easy, I don't think it's the unicorn everyone is making it out to be. I personally know three people who've transferred from St. Mary's in San Antonio to UT Austin in the last seven years. It's not a common occurrence, but I think it happens a little bit more than people realize. I would also ask if you have any connections as a Paralegal. I've been a Legal Assistant for several years and have standing job offers if I should want them. Do you have any connections along those lines? If not, can you cultivate them? While numbers are a big indicator of initial acceptance int the T14 and gaining positions in Big Law/clerkships, they're not the end all be all that a lot of people make them out to be. I know an attorney who graduated from a non-accredited law school in CA (because apparently that's a thing), passed the bar in CA, which then enabled him to take the bar in TX. He now makes some mad money that not even a lot of entry level Big Law positions can touch. People with stellar numbers don't necessarily have to hustle and think outside of the box to make it happen, but for those with mitigating factors it's something you have to consider. At the end of the the day it's not a matter if whether or not people transfer into the T14, we know that they do. It's a matter of whether or not you can work hard enough and pull numbers to make you a viable candidate for transfer.

[kwabbs]

Don't feel too defeated.. I have a friend who's LSAT was a 152.. not sure his GPA but probably wasn't too great either.. He started off at McGeorge and transferred to USC this past year though not a T-20 school, still a much better school than where he initially started.

Chances for UCD and UCI are probably slim for 1L admission. Those are the only real ones that I've researched off your list..

[Shirosham]

Already dinged at Emory even with the accelerated decision program.
Need to trip down my application list by about 3-6 schools.
Anyone want to help me trim down?
Cant Re-take, used 3 chances already.
Live in CA
Want to ultimately transfer to T-14

Currently thinking of applying

Brooklyn Law
UCI
Cardozo
Chapman
UCD
Florida State
Fordham
George Mason
University of Iowa
Seton Hall
University of Alabama
University of Arkansas
University of Florida
Wake Forest
UW
WU

I applied last cycle at the deadline to everywhere. Similar stats, lower GPA, higher LSAT.

Chapman - You'll def get in with money. If you want to go there is another story.
UC Davis - Unlikely for any money, but if you apply early you may get in.
Cardozo - I'd say you're looking at 25k.
UCI - No dice, IMO.

Wake Forest - You'll get in, probably looking 20-25k. I got in with 25k, got bumped to 27k, took the deferral offer and I have 37k guaranteed. I'd say it's worth applying to if you're at all interested in NC.

[BrooklynLaw16]

Most will tell you T14 or bust but here's how I look at it: if you have a full or near full scholarship at a strong nyc regional you have a fighting chance to get biglaw (if that's what your gunning for). Avoid st. John's or below unless your prepared to drop out if you don't meet scholarship stipulations. Other posters are right, these schools are not worth sticker price. That being said, if you do attend a strong regional like Brooklyn or Bozo, and you grade in the top 15% and you have relatively good interviewing/ networking skills you can probably get a big firm job with zero debt. This is really the best outcome, I don't care if the other associates at my firm have HYS on their resume because they also have HYS debt while I have none. That's a big gamble though because if you're not top 15% at one of these schools you'll end up in shit law for all eternity.

[BigZuck]

Most will tell you T14 or bust but here's how I look at it: if you have a full or near full scholarship at a strong nyc regional you have a fighting chance to get biglaw (if that's what your gunning for). Avoid st. John's or below unless your prepared to drop out if you don't meet scholarship stipulations. Other posters are right, these schools are not worth sticker price. That being said, if you do attend a strong regional like Brooklyn or Bozo, and you grade in the top 15% and you have relatively good interviewing/ networking skills you can probably get a big firm job with zero debt. This is really the best outcome, I don't care if the other associates at my firm have HYS on their resume because they also have HYS debt while I have none. That's a big gamble though because if you're not top 15% at one of these schools you'll end up in shit law for all eternity.

Maybe we stop bumping dead threads to give dumb advice, yes?

[03152016]

strong regional like brooklyn

LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL

[AReasonableMan]

Want to ultimately transfer to T-14

Odds of that happening are very slim. Something like a 90% chance it wont happen from a T1.

When can you retake?

Depending on the school that isn't true. At Emory for instance, top quarter would make him competitive for some t-10s.

Law review at Cardozo gets big law. If you have a full ride there are worse options. The competition is significantly less than other schools.

[Wingtip88]

Want to ultimately transfer to T-14

Odds of that happening are very slim. Something like a 90% chance it wont happen from a T1.

When can you retake?

Depending on the school that isn't true. At Emory for instance, top quarter would make him competitive for some t-10s.

Law review at Cardozo gets big law. If you have a full ride there are worse options. The competition is significantly less than other schools.

Just because there are "worse options" doesn't make it a good idea. By no means should anybody assume that they will be in the top ten percent of their TTT class.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2013/

Looks like a whole lot of red to me.

[AReasonableMan]

Want to ultimately transfer to T-14

Odds of that happening are very slim. Something like a 90% chance it wont happen from a T1.

When can you retake?

Depending on the school that isn't true. At Emory for instance, top quarter would make him competitive for some t-10s.

Law review at Cardozo gets big law. If you have a full ride there are worse options. The competition is significantly less than other schools.

Just because there are "worse options" doesn't make it a good idea. By no means should anybody assume that they will be in the top ten percent of their TTT class.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2013/

Looks like a whole lot of red to me.

I never said it was a good idea. My point is that if OP wanted NYC, Cardozo is going to be a better option than Emory. Generally speaking, people who get into Emory at sticker would get into Bozo with 30k+ per year. The average student at Emory is much smarter than the average student at Bozo, and NYC firms don't go very into deep into the Emory class - top twenty percent is a minimum. Adding all this up, Bozo is the better bet. Of course, with the way retaking works now, it is never worth it to go to either of these schools.

Once you drop below USC, I think it's all the same. Schools with twenty-percent big law and median LSAT scores in the ninetieth percentile are very bad propositions.

[darth lulz]

so much dumb itt