Yeah, I think there's going to be some serious self-selection going on with classics majors.IAFG wrote:I seriously question whether it is a classics education that helps in LS or those to stick with a classics major also happen to be successful in LS.
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I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
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I spent the vast majority of my Classics major career translating Latin and Greek into English and v.v.
If anything, studying/translating Classical language is like studying math.
If anything, studying/translating Classical language is like studying math.
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statistics of LSAT scores by major for 2008-2009
http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Ph ... Majors.pdf
http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Ph ... Majors.pdf
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Latin is a fun hobby, but there's no need to major in it.
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I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
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Heh, well I mean "definitely" in the sense of, in my opinion the connection is obvious when you've done both, not because of the stats that show a correlation. Obviously it's not "definite" in a literal sense, but then again nothing causal is. Would you prefer it if I said I strongly believe the link is causal and not just correlative?IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
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Is this the shit they teach you in philosphy school?Elston Gunn wrote:Heh, well I mean "definitely" in the sense of, in my opinion the connection is obvious when you've done both, not because of the stats that show a correlation. Obviously it's not "definite" in a literal sense, but then again nothing causal is. Would you prefer it if I said I strongly believe the link is causal and not just correlative?IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
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It seems clear enough. I would not doubt that studying philosophy - especially formal logic - would increase LSAT performance.IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
What part of that claim is outrageous?
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Who cares. Anyone with above average intelligence and 4 months can crack 170.beepboopbeep wrote:It seems clear enough. I would not doubt that studying philosophy - especially formal logic - would increase LSAT performance.IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
What part of that claim is outrageous?
Finance, CS, Electrical Engineering, relevant languages are actually going to get you a job over your equally situated peers.
If anything, Classics will make some employers think "this person doesn't have any real life experience."
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If you can't see what's wrong with the claim, I have to assume you're not one of the people with average intelligence and a few months to study who managed to crack 170.beepboopbeep wrote:It seems clear enough. I would not doubt that studying philosophy - especially formal logic - would increase LSAT performance.IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
What part of that claim is outrageous?
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Oh for sure. He was just catching a lot of shit and it didn't seem like that bad of a statement for TLS.TaipeiMort wrote:Who cares. Anyone with above average intelligence and 4 months can crack 170.
Finance, CS, Electrical Engineering, relevant languages are actually going to get you a job over your equally situated peers.
To give actual advice for OP, joining the chorus of "whatever you can handle that qualifies for the patent bar".
lolIAFG wrote:If you can't see what's wrong with the claim, I have to assume you're not one of the people with average intelligence and a few months to study who managed to crack 170.
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Firms do like the EE and CS peeps a lit more than the Physics or whatever.beepboopbeep wrote:Oh for sure. He was just catching a lot of shit and it didn't seem like that bad of a statement for TLS.TaipeiMort wrote:Who cares. Anyone with above average intelligence and 4 months can crack 170.
Finance, CS, Electrical Engineering, relevant languages are actually going to get you a job over your equally situated peers.
To give actual advice for OP, joining the chorus of "whatever you can handle that qualifies for the patent bar".
lolIAFG wrote:If you can't see what's wrong with the claim, I have to assume you're not one of the people with average intelligence and a few months to study who managed to crack 170.
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It's totally obvious that the skills learned are similar. You're basically snarking either because I used definitely like a normal person would in a conversation or because the other words I used sounded kind of douchey. Which is fair enough I guess, but if you actually disagree with the point, I think you're being pretty dumb.IAFG wrote:If you can't see what's wrong with the claim, I have to assume you're not one of the people with average intelligence and a few months to study who managed to crack 170.beepboopbeep wrote:It seems clear enough. I would not doubt that studying philosophy - especially formal logic - would increase LSAT performance.IAFG wrote:I am not sure you know what "definitely" and "causal" and "link" mean.Elston Gunn wrote:I dont know what classics are like at a normal UG, but there's definitely a causal link between doing philosophy and doing well on the LSAT. Still wouldnt recommend it to most people though.
What part of that claim is outrageous?
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PSA: Patent bar exam eligibility =/= employability. Lots of low-value majors will qualify you to sit for the patent bar exam.
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FWIW, I met a ridiculous number of classics majors at Yale ASW.
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My point is that people who don't wash out of programs requiring formal logic (or aren't scared off by them in the first place) are going to do better on the LSAT. So I don't think it's clear that the training itself causes people to do better on the LSAT. Particularly because I don't think formal logic coursework is going to help you terribly much with RC and much of LG.Elston Gunn wrote: It's totally obvious that the skills learned are similar. You're basically snarking either because I used definitely like a normal person would in a conversation or because the other words I used sounded kind of douchey. Which is fair enough I guess, but if you actually disagree with the point, I think you're being pretty dumb.
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lol. math is killing itttt represent!!J-e-L-L-o wrote:statistics of LSAT scores by major for 2008-2009
http://www.potsdam.edu/academics/AAS/Ph ... Majors.pdf
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this does not surprise me in the least.Cicero76 wrote:FWIW, I met a ridiculous number of classics majors at Yale ASW.
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OP is your interested in studying Latin, don't major in classics. This is all you need:
http://www.amazon.com/Wheelocks-Latin-7th/dp/0061997226
http://www.amazon.com/Wheelocks-Latin-7th/dp/0061997226
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What do you guys think of Honors programs?
Do they stand out?
+'s and -'s ?
Do they stand out?
+'s and -'s ?
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Can't EEs do CS work but not vice versa?Desert Fox wrote:Computer Science. Just as in demand, but it's easier.IAFG wrote:The best pre-law major is electrical engineering.
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Luke_Lawyer19 wrote:What do you guys think of Honors programs?
Do they stand out?
+'s and -'s ?
definitely stand out, especially if you went to a state school and could have gone to better schools.
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You never know when your fact-pattern on a law exam will seamlessly segue into Attic Greek, leaving the most classically trained among us at the top.
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