3.47 179 Forum

dingbat · Post by **dingbat** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:55 pm

There's no statistical benefit. However, while a huge portion of the admissions process is numbers based, it is not entirely so. Yes, a few points more is preferable, but once a student is above the 75%, it's more like a soft - it's nice and it helps differentiate, but it doesn't do the school any favors

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:50 pm

cynthiad wrote:I was responding to dingbat saying that there is no difference at all from higher score once you're over 75%. I am aware that there are decreasing marginal benefits.

Unresponsive.

174 is below the 75th for both H and Y, 179 etc., is above.

Seriously, he's not getting into H or Y (I'm not going to speculate on S). He's too vanilla (no pun intended, of course) to get into HY with a 3.4X...

cynthiad · Post by **cynthiad** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:05 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
cynthiad wrote:I was responding to dingbat saying that there is no difference at all from higher score once you're over 75%. I am aware that there are decreasing marginal benefits.
Unresponsive.

174 is below the 75th for both H and Y, 179 etc., is above.

Seriously, he's not getting into H or Y (I'm not going to speculate on S). He's too vanilla (no pun intended, of course) to get into HY with a 3.4X...

You're right, I was going off the numbers in dingbat's post, I should have double checked. At no point did I say op was getting into HYS though, I'm not sure how you got that from my post.

dingbat · Post by **dingbat** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:12 pm

I was referring to Stanford's LSAT numbers

cynthiad · Post by **cynthiad** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:32 pm

dingbat wrote:I was referring to Stanford's LSAT numbers

Yes, I realize that, that's what I meant by I should have double checked. I should have written 177, not 174.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:45 am

Certainly a better chance at Harvard than Stanford, but little chance at either.

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:03 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Certainly a better chance at Harvard than Stanford, but little chance at either.

What explains this persistent flame? Have you looked at numbers for both schools? Why does TLS keep repeating this bullshit?

Everyone throws out the statement without considering the nuances. It is "easier" ("easier" meaning more predictable) to get into H, if you have the numbers to begin with. That's because S is concerned about yield at that level and has a fraction of the class at H (protip: Its yield is below 50%). If you don't have the numbers, S gives you a higher chance, actually, since you can bullshit your way in by gathering softs under a facade of altruism.

In sum, your second assessment is right (no chance at either). The first assessment is wrong.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am

No white person gets into S with that GPA. Occasionally a white person will get into H with that GPA. Look at LSN.

Common sense also tells us that H will feel more pressure to soften LSAT and GPA floors with the declining number of apps. That seemed to start last cycle.

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:13 am

You presume LSN is representative of all admitted students. Secondly you presume a white person who gets into S (or H or Y for that matter), will broadcast the fact on LSN.

Look to the school's year-by-year posted data of admission statistics (which still tells you nothing about individual admits, really).

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:15 am

Do you actually ask Harvard students about their UG GPAs?

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:21 am

Why would I? Who does that?

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:24 am

Blessedassurance wrote:Why would I? Who does that?

You seem awfully sure.

Blessedassurance wrote: Look to the school's year-by-year posted data of admission statistics (which still tells you nothing about individual admits, really).

All they tells us is that a white due with a 3.47 has no chance at either school. So all we can go off of are anecdotes, and the few we have say Harvard makes it a tiny bit easier for someone to get in with that GPA.

And again, there's good reason to think Harvard will be just a tad more friendly to mild splitters. In a "your chances went from 1% to 5%" kind of way.

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:38 am

I was talking about the schools' posted numbers on their websites. S used to post its numbers, I don't know if they still do. Y has a detailed breakdown which tells you the lowest gpa.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:47 am

Yeah, Yale's full-scale breakdown is always the best for ending the dreams of hopeful splitters. GPA below 3.6? GTFO.

Hopefully for people like OP and NoodleyOne apps keep declining and miracles take place. If not NYU always needs people to fill its gigantic class.

Blessedassurance · Post by **Blessedassurance** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:50 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Yeah, Yale's full-scale breakdown is always the best for ending the dreams of hopeful splitters. GPA below 3.6? GTFO.

Hopefully for people like OP and NoodleyOne apps keep declining and miracles take place. If not NYU always needs people to fill its gigantic class.

Indeed, indeed. I think NYU seriously has to look into reducing its class size. It's going to get nasty at this rate.

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