So are Cornell grads. Get over yourself.[/quote]HeavenWood wrote:Ah, but I wore a short sleeved shirt today! I'm also employable.Veyron wrote:HeavenWood wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
Veyron wrote:
Hello, welcome to CORNELL, where we train LAWYERS IN THE BEST SENSE!
And what's wrong with Cornell?
I see you are attending a "Tier 1 Public." Is Ithaca gorges this time of year?
It's prettier than Penn.
+1.dissonance1848 wrote:Where is your engineering degree from? No reasonable person would trade a good engineering job for the lottery which is legal employment, unless the school is not well regarded in engineering.
With that GPA, you need a retake. Get above a 170, and everything except HYS and CCN is converging on a lock. Do it.
That I can agree with.Veyron wrote:
Ah, but I wore a short sleeved shirt today! (I'm also marginally more employable).
Ah, but I wore a short sleeved shirt today! (I'm also marginally more employable).[/quote]Veyron wrote:It's prettier than Penn.HeavenWood wrote:I see you are attending a "Tier 1 Public." Is Ithaca gorges this time of year?HeavenWood wrote:And what's wrong with Cornell?Veyron wrote:Hello, welcome to CORNELL, where we train LAWYERS IN THE BEST SENSE!
You're terrible at life. Also at Backgammon.Bildungsroman wrote:You're terrible at quoting.
T3-or-bust. Nice. Too bad you attend NorthWesTTTern.rayiner wrote: LOL @ non-HYS grads being "employable."
Some might luck into jobs, yeah, if that's what you mean.
Dude. It's the peeps at TTT's who know it's HYS or bust more so than the peeps at HYS. HYS folks are all like: "CCNMVPBDNCG grads must get jobs right? I mean, someone has to work for V25-100!" They have no idea what it's like to have to keep it real.HeavenWood wrote:T3-or-bust. Nice. Too bad you attend NorthWesTTTern.rayiner wrote: LOL @ non-HYS grads being "employable."
Some might luck into jobs, yeah, if that's what you mean.
Penn's valedictorian probably didn't screw up OCI with his shitty interpersonal skills.Veyron wrote: Dood, you're full of shit, I have it on very good authority that Penn's valedictorian managed to snag a job as a paralegal at Cravath last year.
In contrast, Cornell's was a coffee boy at Strook and NU's had his career destroyed by the SBA before he could start at Ronald and McDonald.
I'm not knocking Northwestern. Hell, I'll probably be choosing between a T20 at sticker and a low T1/high T2 on scholly. I just find all this elitism quite amusing, if not ridiculously pessimistic.rayiner wrote:Dude. It's the peeps at TTT's who know it's HYS or bust more so than the peeps at HYS. HYS folks are all like: "CCNMVPBDNCG grads must get jobs right? I mean, someone has to work for V25-100!" They have no idea what it's like to have to keep it real.HeavenWood wrote:T3-or-bust. Nice. Too bad you attend NorthWesTTTern.rayiner wrote: LOL @ non-HYS grads being "employable."
Some might luck into jobs, yeah, if that's what you mean.
Realism is fun!HeavenWood wrote:I just find all this elitism quite amusing, if not ridiculously pessimistic.
What elitism? Just telling it like it is. There are no jobs and what few there are are taken by the swarm of 1000 HYS grads that get pumped out every year. It's madness.HeavenWood wrote:I'm not knocking Northwestern. Hell, I'll probably be choosing between a T20 at sticker and a low T1/high T2 on scholly. I just find all this elitism quite amusing, if not ridiculously pessimistic.rayiner wrote:Dude. It's the peeps at TTT's who know it's HYS or bust more so than the peeps at HYS. HYS folks are all like: "CCNMVPBDNCG grads must get jobs right? I mean, someone has to work for V25-100!" They have no idea what it's like to have to keep it real.HeavenWood wrote:T3-or-bust. Nice. Too bad you attend NorthWesTTTern.rayiner wrote: LOL @ non-HYS grads being "employable."
Some might luck into jobs, yeah, if that's what you mean.
Realism is accepting that those outside the T14 will have a harder shot at landing a job. Insanity is asserting that those outside HYS get jobs "by accident."bk187 wrote:Realism is fun!HeavenWood wrote:I just find all this elitism quite amusing, if not ridiculously pessimistic.
REALITY is something in between "realism" and "insanity."HeavenWood wrote:Realism is accepting that those outside the T14 will have a harder shot at landing a job. Insanity is asserting that those outside HYS get jobs "by accident."bk187 wrote:Realism is fun!HeavenWood wrote:I just find all this elitism quite amusing, if not ridiculously pessimistic.
rayiner wrote:
What elitism? Just telling it like it is. There are no jobs and what few there are are taken by the swarm of 1000 HYS grads that get pumped out every year. It's madness.
Employable = HYS. After that it's various degrees of getting lucky.
Just like always.r6_philly wrote:Kids at Columbia are screaming and pulling their hair out right now.
even as an engineer? those mothers are (relatively) killing it from what i hear. i know a few below median 2Ls at ucla/usc who have pretty sweet gigs lined up. From what it looks like engineers are not going to be exposed to same hardships as the rest.rayiner wrote:[
Employable = HYS. After that it's various degrees of getting lucky.
It depends on the prestige of your engineering degree, though. An engineer from a "small state college" will still get a boost, but not a huge one ITE.nematoad wrote:even as an engineer? those mothers are (relatively) killing it from what i hear. i know a few below median 2Ls at ucla/usc who have pretty sweet gigs lined up. From what it looks like engineers are not going to be exposed to same hardships as the rest.rayiner wrote:[
Employable = HYS. After that it's various degrees of getting lucky.
You will probably not get into Vandy. You will get WL. They didn't accept below 167 this year, regardless of GPA, and the median went up to 169.thexfactor wrote:check out vandy. You will prob get in. You will get into WUSTL with scholarship.
Sometimes I wonder about LSN data. Vandy has a 25th percentile of 165, so they had to accept plenty of sub-167 non-URMs. Likewise, Stanford's median is 170 but you see almost no sub-170 admits on LSN.rad law wrote:You will probably not get into Vandy. You will get WL. They didn't accept below 167 this year, regardless of GPA, and the median went up to 169.thexfactor wrote:check out vandy. You will prob get in. You will get into WUSTL with scholarship.
That's because median is not mean.im_blue wrote:Sometimes I wonder about LSN data. Vandy has a 25th percentile of 165, so they had to accept plenty of sub-167 non-URMs. Likewise, Stanford's median is 170 but you see almost no sub-170 admits on LSN.rad law wrote:You will probably not get into Vandy. You will get WL. They didn't accept below 167 this year, regardless of GPA, and the median went up to 169.thexfactor wrote:check out vandy. You will prob get in. You will get into WUSTL with scholarship.
While it's true that your hypothetical distributions meet the median, practically speaking with Vandy's 25/50/75 at 165-169-170 it's almost a certainty that only slightly more than 50% of the class has a 169+, with the rest at 168-. If Vandy had that many 168-169's to spare, they would have sacrificed them to bump up their median GPA.r6_philly wrote:That's because median is not mean.im_blue wrote:Sometimes I wonder about LSN data. Vandy has a 25th percentile of 165, so they had to accept plenty of sub-167 non-URMs. Likewise, Stanford's median is 170 but you see almost no sub-170 admits on LSN.rad law wrote:You will probably not get into Vandy. You will get WL. They didn't accept below 167 this year, regardless of GPA, and the median went up to 169.thexfactor wrote:check out vandy. You will prob get in. You will get into WUSTL with scholarship.
Stanford could accept 51% 170, and 49% 171 or more, its median would be 170.
Vandy could accept 26% at 165 or below, very few 166, and only 167+ for the rest.
You don't know the distribution of the population, so you can't make such predictions based on median/25/75 numbers because they could be trimodal by design at 25/50/75.
NO. The only thing you can infer is that 25% of the class is at 165 or below. You can't infer anything about the people between 26% and 49% without knowing distribution. They are anywhere between 166 and 169, but could ALL be 169.im_blue wrote: While it's true that your hypothetical distributions meet the median, practically speaking with Vandy's 25/50/75 at 165-169-170 it's almost a certainty that only slightly more than 50% of the class has a 169+, with the rest at 168-. If Vandy had that many 168-169's to spare, they would have sacrificed them to bump up their median GPA.
