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bofaem

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Re: Penn vs. UChi and NYU
haha well i guess ill explain why im so concerned about other non legal people...im not so sure i want to do big law my whole life, and i want to have my options open so i want to know how people outside the legal community view different schools
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Either GULC or Cornell are the TCR. Nevermind the public school sounding-Chicago or Penn State. Go for the gold, young grasshopper.Emma. wrote:Go to GULC. Of all the schools I got into, for some reason people seemed most impressed by Georgetown.
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My stepdad still wonders aloud in my presence why I would turn GULC down for some school in Chicago he'd never heard of before I went to interview there.Emma. wrote:Go to GULC. Of all the schools I got into, for some reason people seemed most impressed by Georgetown.
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do you think the sophisticated people outside the legal community for whom you might eventually want to work are too stupid to figure out law school reputations among lawyers/judges (i.e. people who matter and know)?bofaem wrote:haha well i guess ill explain why im so concerned about other non legal people...im not so sure i want to do big law my whole life, and i want to have my options open so i want to know how people outside the legal community view different schools
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Georgetown sounds lawyerish and political.Desert Fox wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.czelede wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".IAFG wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
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I think in another thread someone had concluded that any school named after a location automatically kills the lay prestige.Desert Fox wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.czelede wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".IAFG wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
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then focus on going to an impressive firm then doing impressive work and getting assigned to impressive clients so the people who take biglaw refugees will be impressed.bofaem wrote:haha well i guess ill explain why im so concerned about other non legal people...im not so sure i want to do big law my whole life, and i want to have my options open so i want to know how people outside the legal community view different schools
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Cornell isn't the TCR. It's got reputation, reputation for being the shittiest Ivy. Columbia or GTFO.dresden doll wrote:Either GULC or Cornell are the TCR. Nevermind the public school sounding-Chicago or Penn State. Go for the gold, young grasshopper.Emma. wrote:Go to GULC. Of all the schools I got into, for some reason people seemed most impressed by Georgetown.
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Georgetown is named after a location? So is Columbia, IIRC.czelede wrote:I think in another thread someone had concluded that any school named after a location automatically kills the lay prestige.Desert Fox wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.czelede wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".IAFG wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
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This is TCR, IMO.czelede wrote:I think in another thread someone had concluded that any school named after a location automatically kills the lay prestige.Desert Fox wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.czelede wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".IAFG wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
edit: For this to work it needs to be a location that laypeople recognize as a location.
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Is Georgetown a place?czelede wrote:I think in another thread someone had concluded that any school named after a location automatically kills the lay prestige.Desert Fox wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.czelede wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".IAFG wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
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If you're concern is Big law placement chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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Did you just say Columbia was named after a person and edit FTW?Emma. wrote:I think in another thread someone had concluded that any school named after a location automatically kills the lay prestige.czelede wrote:Yea wtf is with that. It does have a cool name. Georgetown Mill of Diplomas.Desert Fox wrote:Haha, same in the midwest. Georgetown Law garners all kinds of "Oohs".czelede wrote:here on the west coast, no one would know anything about any of those schools. oddly, they're impressed by georgetown though.
This is TCR, IMO.
edit: For this to work it needs to be a location that laypeople recognize as a location.
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I'm pretty sure if I was sub median at UChi I'd aim for NYC only. At least ITE. NYC is the easiest market.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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Before ITE not really, but if you can't make it past 70 percent you might have some issues.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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Yes, I vacation there every summer.Desert Fox wrote: Is Georgetown a place?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown,_Maine
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Is that a rhetorical question? Quite clearly, my friend, the answer here is a resounding yes.doyleoil wrote:do you think the sophisticated people outside the legal community for whom you might eventually want to work are too stupid to figure out law school reputations among lawyers/judges (i.e. people who matter and know)?bofaem wrote:haha well i guess ill explain why im so concerned about other non legal people...im not so sure i want to do big law my whole life, and i want to have my options open so i want to know how people outside the legal community view different schools
Do the good deed and encourage OP to steer clear of TTTs like Chicago.
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strooooooooock; stroooooooooooooooooockDesert Fox wrote:I'm pretty sure if I was sub median at UChi I'd aim for NYC only. At least ITE. NYC is the easiest market.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
(*said in lamenting tone, a la Kramer pining for the Kenny Roger's*)
also, tongue-in-cheek - i just couldn't help myself
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I don't even get the reference.doyleoil wrote:strooooooooock; stroooooooooooooooooockDesert Fox wrote:I'm pretty sure if I was sub median at UChi I'd aim for NYC only. At least ITE. NYC is the easiest market.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
(*said in lamenting tone, a la Kramer pining for the Kenny Roger's*)
also, tongue-in-cheek - i just couldn't help myself
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I guess midwest could mean Minneapolis and OmahaDesert Fox wrote:I'm pretty sure if I was sub median at UChi I'd aim for NYC only. At least ITE. NYC is the easiest market.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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if you don't watch seinfeld, then we're done hereDesert Fox wrote:
I don't even get the reference.
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dresden doll wrote:Is that a rhetorical question? Quite clearly, my friend, the answer here is a resounding yes.doyleoil wrote:do you think the sophisticated people outside the legal community for whom you might eventually want to work are too stupid to figure out law school reputations among lawyers/judges (i.e. people who matter and know)?bofaem wrote:haha well i guess ill explain why im so concerned about other non legal people...im not so sure i want to do big law my whole life, and i want to have my options open so i want to know how people outside the legal community view different schools
Do the good deed and encourage OP to steer clear of TTTs like Chicago.
I'm not hating on chicago, it was actually my first choice UG and id liked it a lot there--and there's a pretty good chance i ED there
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Here's what it meant pre(ish)-ITE: --LinkRemoved--IAFG wrote:I guess midwest could mean Minneapolis and OmahaDesert Fox wrote:I'm pretty sure if I was sub median at UChi I'd aim for NYC only. At least ITE. NYC is the easiest market.IAFG wrote:wait is this true? do uchi students who do poorly suddenly find their degrees less portable?quakeroats wrote:If you're concern is Big Law placement Chicago wins by a mile even in New York. However, if you end up well south of median you could be stuck in the Midwest.
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we're always happy to have people who have seen the light - we're just here to shake you out of your silliness sooner rather than later - it's an act of kindness (no matter what it looks like on the surface)bofaem wrote:
I'm not hating on chicago, it was actually my first choice UG and id liked it a lot there--and there's a pretty good chance i ED there
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