Yeah, if you want holistic, apply to Berkeley.Nova wrote:MehRichardHarvard2014 wrote:This is why I am particularly connected to the "well-rounded" admission as opposed to a strict mathematical formula.
Rec letters can go a long way.
All schools front being holistic. In the end, they are almost all USNWR whores. Including GW and GULC.
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Unless you're URM, military, Rhodes, Fulbright, or Marshall then you are flat wrong.RichardHarvard2014 wrote:This is why I am particularly connected to the "well-rounded" admission as opposed to a strict mathematical formula.
Rec letters can go a long way.
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Flips88 wrote:Yeah, if you want holistic, apply to Berkeley.Nova wrote:MehRichardHarvard2014 wrote:This is why I am particularly connected to the "well-rounded" admission as opposed to a strict mathematical formula.
Rec letters can go a long way.
All schools front being holistic. In the end, they are almost all USNWR whores. Including GW and GULC.
Isn't his GPA a little low for Berkeley?
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That's an understatement.holmesboy wrote: Isn't his GPA a little low for Berkeley?
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Yeah, it wasn't a serious suggestion. The guy seems all in on DC and doesn't realize that even if he is admitted to GULC, goes at sticker, and finishes at median, he'll still be #300 in his class, which is larger than most other T14 class sizes by itself.holmesboy wrote:
Isn't his GPA a little low for Berkeley?
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You guys are riding OP hard, but if he was an URM, the eliteness of, say, a Harvard or a Princeton undergrad would provide a sizeable bump in law school admissions. Assuming the numbers are the same, URM's with elite undergrads usually fare better than URM's from regular undergrads.
In addition, I think most of us didn't know law school admissions was so numbers driven during our years in undergrad. If we could all go back in time, I bet a lot of us would gun real, real hard for a 4.0. Obviously we didn't intentionally get "B's" in undergrad, but we would have spent even more time than we already did in the library to gun for a 4.0.
In addition, I think most of us didn't know law school admissions was so numbers driven during our years in undergrad. If we could all go back in time, I bet a lot of us would gun real, real hard for a 4.0. Obviously we didn't intentionally get "B's" in undergrad, but we would have spent even more time than we already did in the library to gun for a 4.0.
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I don't think we'd ride him so hard if he weren't so smugbizzybone1313 wrote:You guys are riding OP hard, but if he was an URM, the eliteness of, say, a Harvard or a Princeton undergrad would provide a sizeable bump in law school admissions. Assuming the numbers are the same, URM's with elite undergrads usually fare better than URM's from regular undergrads.
In addition, I think most of us didn't know law school admissions was so numbers driven during our years in undergrad. If we could all go back in time, I bet a lot of us would gun real, real hard for a 4.0. Obviously we didn't intentionally get "A's" in undergrad, but we would have spent even more time than we already did in the library to gun for a 4.0.
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alwayssunnyinfl wrote:That's an understatement.holmesboy wrote: Isn't his GPA a little low for Berkeley?
Haha, true dat. I'm trying this new thing where I'm not unnecessarily confrontational.
I'm also trying this new thing where I don't talk about people behind their backs.
Plus, his avatar is Serge Ibaka, so there's a 99% chance he's awesome. And he has 17k posts, so he probably already knows about Berkeley being a GPA whore.
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Got waitlisted with a 4.0. I ain't even mad.holmesboy wrote: Haha, true dat. I'm trying this new thing where I'm not unnecessarily confrontational.
I'm also trying this new thing where I don't talk about people behind their backs.
Plus, his avatar is Serge Ibaka, so there's a 99% chance he's awesome. And he has 17k posts, so he probably already knows about Berkeley being a GPA whore.
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You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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bizzybone1313 wrote:You guys are riding OP hard, but if he was an URM, the eliteness of, say, a Harvard or a Princeton undergrad would provide a sizeable bump in law school admissions. Assuming the numbers are the same, URM's with elite undergrads usually fare better than URM's from regular undergrads.
In addition, I think most of us didn't know law school admissions was so numbers driven during our years in undergrad. If we could all go back in time, I bet a lot of us would gun real, real hard for a 4.0. Obviously we didn't intentionally get "B's" in undergrad, but we would have spent even more time than we already did in the library to gun for a 4.0.
This. I agree with this 100%. I didn't know how numbers-driver law schools were until I started lurking on TLS. And I really wish I could go back and actually put in a modicum of effort in undergrad.
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Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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I have a more practical undergrad degree than probably 90% of law students. I hope this gives me a bump in admissions.holmesboy wrote:Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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But admission comms don't really care about that unless they are down to one last spot and have a Harvard UG vs. Shithole State School with the exact same stats. At best it will be a tie breaker in the end. But if there's a guy from Shithole State U with a 175/3.3, I'm guessing he'll get in before Harvard bro with a 169/3.3.holmesboy wrote:Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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The most magnificent thing about TLS circle jerk echo chambering is that it doesn't matter. If you were op and got a 168 you'd still apply to gulc. And GW. And American (if free)
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Oh snap. It's not a 6 point boost?!?Flips88 wrote:But admission comms don't really care about that unless they are down to one last spot and have a Harvard UG vs. Shithole State School with the exact same stats. At best it will be a tie breaker in the end. But if there's a guy from Shithole State U with a 175/3.3, I'm guessing he'll get in before Harvard bro with a 169/3.3.holmesboy wrote:Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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Quoted for HoF 2013holmesboy wrote:Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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I'd rather my thoughts about the irrelevance and unqualifiedness of TLS thoughts on admissions chances be submitted to my 2013 hoff review board.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:Quoted for HoF 2013holmesboy wrote:Most helpful post of 2013. In all seriousness, I never even considered the employment outcome portion of the rankings. Good point.laxbrah420 wrote:You guys are idiots if you don't think it is a boost. Yes, gpa and last affect usnwr but so do employment outcomes especially with the new methodology. Harvard UG helps secure jobs. Period.
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OP you need to apply to American ASAP. It is an excellent school for your goals.
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Harvard undergrad to American law. That would be a damn shame. I know a guy that went from Cornell undergrad to Emory and from Penn undergrad to UT law. These guys did what OP is going to have to do: Go from an elite undergrad to a mediocre law school, when they should have done it the other way around.rad lulz wrote:OP you need to apply to American ASAP. It is an excellent school for your goals.
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Dude have you done any reading about American? The schools programs mesh perfectly with OPs goals.bizzybone1313 wrote:Harvard undergrad to American law. That would be a damn shame. I know a guy that went from Cornell undergrad to Emory and from Penn undergrad to UT law. These guys did what OP is going to have to do: Go from an elite undergrad to a mediocre law school, when they should have done it the other way around.rad lulz wrote:OP you need to apply to American ASAP. It is an excellent school for your goals.
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LOCATION LOCATION LOCATIONrad lulz wrote:Dude have you done any reading about American? The schools programs mesh perfectly with OPs goals.bizzybone1313 wrote:Harvard undergrad to American law. That would be a damn shame. I know a guy that went from Cornell undergrad to Emory and from Penn undergrad to UT law. These guys did what OP is going to have to do: Go from an elite undergrad to a mediocre law school, when they should have done it the other way around.rad lulz wrote:OP you need to apply to American ASAP. It is an excellent school for your goals.
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UT and Emory are both well regarded institutions you snooty guy.bizzybone1313 wrote:Harvard undergrad to American law. That would be a damn shame. I know a guy that went from Cornell undergrad to Emory and from Penn undergrad to UT law. These guys did what OP is going to have to do: Go from an elite undergrad to a mediocre law school, when they should have done it the other way around.rad lulz wrote:OP you need to apply to American ASAP. It is an excellent school for your goals.
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Only on TLSbizzybone1313 wrote: from Penn undergrad to UT law. These guys did what OP is going to have to do: Go from an elite undergrad to a mediocre law school,

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