Case Western 2010 Forum

[sweet02215]

My interview did seem kind of awkward yesterday. I think it was more that the interviewer just seemed like she was in a dour mood from the beginning. However, I don't think the interview went badly - I just devolved into logorrhea for a few brief moments.

Yeah, I was afraid my interviewer would be like that.. which she seemed like initially. It was hard to get her to just laugh, but once she did I felt more comfortable and it went well.

[charlesjd]

My interview did seem kind of awkward yesterday. I think it was more that the interviewer just seemed like she was in a dour mood from the beginning. However, I don't think the interview went badly - I just devolved into logorrhea for a few brief moments.

Yeah, I was afraid my interviewer would be like that.. which she seemed like initially. It was hard to get her to just laugh, but once she did I felt more comfortable and it went well.

how long was the interview for? Do they interview everyone within reason or more for YP candidates? I am above 75h for gpa and at median for lsat. Someone want to pm me the questions they asked??? That would be awesome.

[84Sunbird2000]

In with 35k at the previously stated 3.15/2.80 standards.

[Zinn Man]

Just wanted to get some takes on Case Western Admitted Student Visit next weekend. I live in Los Angeles and I called about a travel stipend and they said I didn't qualify. You have to a LSAT score of at least 159 plus some mileage separation. Obviously, I didn't have a LSAT score high enough, but I was admitted with a small scholarship. Does this seem fair?

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s. I can go through Canton, but with rental car, etc. its about the same. I would have been different if I knew about the visit when I was admitted because I could have probably got a ticket at least for $300 something.

I just can't help but feel slightly bad about myself and the obvious implication that my attendance is not really that important to them. I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help as opposed to chalking me up to a number. At the end of the day, they did admit me. After admittance, I think there should be a shift to some amount of equality. I understand they have to go for the big LSAT scores, but not all of them can live as far as California. If I lived within a drivable 8-12 hour distance, OK, but over 2,000 miles is really far. It just feels a little rough around the edges, if you know what I mean. Or, I am crazy on this? Does this seem right to other people?

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

[84Sunbird2000]

Just wanted to get some takes on Case Western Admitted Student Visit next weekend. I live in Los Angeles and I called about a travel stipend and they said I didn't qualify. You have to a LSAT score of at least 159 plus some mileage separation. Obviously, I didn't have a LSAT score high enough, but I was admitted with a small scholarship. Does this seem fair?

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s. I can go through Canton, but with rental car, etc. its about the same. I would have been different if I knew about the visit when I was admitted because I could have probably got a ticket at least for $300 something.

I just can't help but feel slightly bad about myself and the obvious implication that my attendance is not really that important to them. I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help as opposed to chalking me up to a number. At the end of the day, they did admit me. After admittance, I think there should be a shift to some amount of equality. I understand they have to go for the big LSAT scores, but not all of them can live as far as California. If I lived within a drivable 8-12 hour distance, OK, but over 2,000 miles is really far. It just feels a little rough around the edges, if you know what I mean. Or, I am crazy on this? Does this seem right to other people?

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I assume that your username reflects your social and political sensibilities. As such, I admire you. I also believe that you are entirely right in your contention that those with the most need (furthest distance) should be first in consideration for a travel stipend. I live well over 1,000 miles away, and if it weren't for the $350 Michigan State offered me to travel, I wouldn't have been able to even begin the law school roadtrip I'm about to embark upon.

I will definitely PM you about the Students day on the 20th if I am able to make it (which I hope).

[Zinn Man]

Just wanted to get some takes on Case Western Admitted Student Visit next weekend. I live in Los Angeles and I called about a travel stipend and they said I didn't qualify. You have to a LSAT score of at least 159 plus some mileage separation. Obviously, I didn't have a LSAT score high enough, but I was admitted with a small scholarship. Does this seem fair?

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s. I can go through Canton, but with rental car, etc. its about the same. I would have been different if I knew about the visit when I was admitted because I could have probably got a ticket at least for $300 something.

I just can't help but feel slightly bad about myself and the obvious implication that my attendance is not really that important to them. I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help as opposed to chalking me up to a number. At the end of the day, they did admit me. After admittance, I think there should be a shift to some amount of equality. I understand they have to go for the big LSAT scores, but not all of them can live as far as California. If I lived within a drivable 8-12 hour distance, OK, but over 2,000 miles is really far. It just feels a little rough around the edges, if you know what I mean. Or, I am crazy on this? Does this seem right to other people?

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I assume that your username reflects your social and political sensibilities. As such, I admire you. I also believe that you are entirely right in your contention that those with the most need (furthest distance) should be first in consideration for a travel stipend. I live well over 1,000 miles away, and if it weren't for the $350 Michigan State offered me to travel, I wouldn't have been able to even begin the law school roadtrip I'm about to embark upon.

I will definitely PM you about the Students day on the 20th if I am able to make it (which I hope).

Thank you so much. I would really appreciate it. That is really nice of you. Thanks!

[Zinn Man]

84Sunbird2000,

Hey, I just got back from Michigan State Visit on the 4th (in which I got a $350 stipend!) And it really helped! With your stats, I am sure you have other schools in mind, but I will tell you, they put together a really sincere, nice presentation. They have a wonderful, collegiate feel and an attitude geared toward teamwork. So, if you are looking for that, you are really going to like it.

Only negatives I saw were the library seemed outdated and anyone from campus can use it, and the international department seemed almost non-existent. They offer courses obviously, but doing actual study abroad seemed to be a little difficult, if not just from the lack of choices.

[sapp]

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s.

I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I will definitely PM you about the Students day on the 20th if I am able to make it (which I hope).

I've also been admitted and I live in So Cal. Can I get in on this PM about the student's day?

[84Sunbird2000]

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s.

I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I will definitely PM you about the Students day on the 20th if I am able to make it (which I hope).

I've also been admitted and I live in So Cal. Can I get in on this PM about the student's day?

No problem on the PMage. I think I might even need to set up a blog or at least make my trip story a narrative, as I'm going to be hitting up Michigan State, Indiana-Bloomington, Case Western Reserve, William and Mary, Washington and Lee, Wake Forest, and possibly BC, BU, and Cardozo. The last three are iffy, though. Might stop at Cornell and Notre Dame too, though they haven't admitted me or reviewed my file yet.

Side note to Zinn_Man: I've gotten a very good vibe from Michigan State as well. Their admissions dean used to be at Notre Dame, and they were very understanding and positive about the fact that I had other schools to consider. They were also open about scholarship attrition data (about 80% retain full rides, which isn't too bad). I know TLSers would usually say not to consider a T3 (or maybe a T2 by the new April USNews) with the offers I have, but they have shockingly good regional and national reach, plus a lot of joint degrees.

[snowpeach06]

Just wanted to get some takes on Case Western Admitted Student Visit next weekend. I live in Los Angeles and I called about a travel stipend and they said I didn't qualify. You have to a LSAT score of at least 159 plus some mileage separation. Obviously, I didn't have a LSAT score high enough, but I was admitted with a small scholarship. Does this seem fair?

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s. I can go through Canton, but with rental car, etc. its about the same. I would have been different if I knew about the visit when I was admitted because I could have probably got a ticket at least for $300 something.

I just can't help but feel slightly bad about myself and the obvious implication that my attendance is not really that important to them. I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help as opposed to chalking me up to a number. At the end of the day, they did admit me. After admittance, I think there should be a shift to some amount of equality. I understand they have to go for the big LSAT scores, but not all of them can live as far as California. If I lived within a drivable 8-12 hour distance, OK, but over 2,000 miles is really far. It just feels a little rough around the edges, if you know what I mean. Or, I am crazy on this? Does this seem right to other people?

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I'm a Case undergrad, so I'm going with some of my friends mainly for the free food/cocktail hour/ect. Why not right? But, it's not worth flying here. There wasn't even a tour included in the weekend! Insane if you ask me. But, while I can't tell you too much about the law school, I'd be happy to answer all of your Cleveland/Case in general questions.

[sapp]

Has anyone tried negotiating scholarships with Case? Results?

[Nat1018]

Yea they're pretty good about upping $$. Definitely give it a shot

[Scheveningen]

Has anyone tried negotiating scholarships with Case? Results?

I'm interested in this as well. Anecdotes from those who were able to negotiate a larger scholarship, and how they did so, would be greatly appreciated.

[Nat1018]

You'll probably have more leverage if your #'s are above the medians. I emailed telling them about my financial situation and how much I want to go to Case. It worked!

[Whitters]

Just RSVP'd for this weekend!!! I want to meet the fellow TLS'ers. How are we going to signal?? haha.

[84Sunbird2000]

We should all have pocketwatches with chains hanging from our belt to our pockets.

[Scheveningen]

Just RSVP'd for this weekend!!! I want to meet the fellow TLS'ers. How are we going to signal?? haha.

We might be given name tags, in which case we could write "TLS" on them.

[Zinn Man]

Just wanted to get some takes on Case Western Admitted Student Visit next weekend. I live in Los Angeles and I called about a travel stipend and they said I didn't qualify. You have to a LSAT score of at least 159 plus some mileage separation. Obviously, I didn't have a LSAT score high enough, but I was admitted with a small scholarship. Does this seem fair?

We got the invitation last week and from LA, I can't get a flight under $430 something and for the last few days it has been in the $500s. I can go through Canton, but with rental car, etc. its about the same. I would have been different if I knew about the visit when I was admitted because I could have probably got a ticket at least for $300 something.

I just can't help but feel slightly bad about myself and the obvious implication that my attendance is not really that important to them. I feel grateful to have gotten in, but I think living on the west coast deserves some help as opposed to chalking me up to a number. At the end of the day, they did admit me. After admittance, I think there should be a shift to some amount of equality. I understand they have to go for the big LSAT scores, but not all of them can live as far as California. If I lived within a drivable 8-12 hour distance, OK, but over 2,000 miles is really far. It just feels a little rough around the edges, if you know what I mean. Or, I am crazy on this? Does this seem right to other people?

Thus, if anyone goes to the visit, if you don't mind, please blog about it or even send me a private message about it. I know nothing about the Cleveland area, how the school is structured inside, the size of the library, and most important I would love to hear your opinions about the current students and what they had to say. Thanks!

I'm a Case undergrad, so I'm going with some of my friends mainly for the free food/cocktail hour/ect. Why not right? But, it's not worth flying here. There wasn't even a tour included in the weekend! Insane if you ask me. But, while I can't tell you too much about the law school, I'd be happy to answer all of your Cleveland/Case in general questions.

Thanks snowpeach! I just don't really know anything about the Cleveland area. I am married, so my wife will have to find a job near the area. She should be able to transfer easily with her company, but I don't know what the areas are like and which ones are safe. We live in Los Angeles, so we are familiar with city living, but we didn't know if there were any artsy districts, trendy areas or even nice historical areas to live in. And what are typical rent prices?

[alannak]

Just RSVP'd for this weekend!!! I want to meet the fellow TLS'ers. How are we going to signal?? haha.

i hope this doesn't sound like i'm creepily soliciting myself.. but i'd love to meet up with people this weekend! i'm going to be there friday and saturday by myself (for some reason no one wanted to take the drive from upstate ny with me haha) and i don't want my being by myself-ness to hinder my impression of cleveland/case!

[angioletto]

So we could have a whole clique set up before school even starts? Sweet.

[snowpeach06]

Thanks snowpeach! I just don't really know anything about the Cleveland area. I am married, so my wife will have to find a job near the area. She should be able to transfer easily with her company, but I don't know what the areas are like and which ones are safe. We live in Los Angeles, so we are familiar with city living, but we didn't know if there were any artsy districts, trendy areas or even nice historical areas to live in. And what are typical rent prices?

First thing you should note: Cleveland is not a real city. Granted there is a downtown area, but Case is not in it. We are in what's called University Circle, right next to all the museums, Severance Hall (the really great orchestra) and the hospital. Right down the street is the Cleveland clinic. Seems like half the people who live around here are employed by Case or one of the two main hospitals. So, if she is in the medical field, well, that would be great. Anyway, the public transportation is really sketchy, most people drive. I personally, get more of a suburban than urban feel. The Suburbs here are really nice. Some really wealthy ones, but even they are somewhat affordable to live in. Living here is cheap, at least compared to NY which is where I grew up. Cleveland suburbs, and the Case campus is safe. But a block away is the ghetto. We get crime reports weekly. The city is super dangerous, so don't walk around at night.

As for trendy areas, uhm, Coventry is a street (really close by!) with a small music venue and a bunch of really good restaurants. It's where all the emo kids hang out. Downtown also has a ton of fantastic restaurants, but they are a bit more expensive. There aren't really any 'artsy' areas around here, but there are artsy places if you look for them. Shaker Heights has a lot of gorgeous old houses. If that is what you want. Really, any suburb is a good place to live. Near campus, there are apartments in Little Italy. But, it's mostly younger students who live there. Hope this answers your questions. If you need me to narrow down more places I can, since, it's kind of hard to sum up everything.

[snowpeach06]

Anyway, I'd be down for meeting some people this weekend, even though, I'll probably skip half the events. Actually, I was wondering. Which events do you guys think are worth going to? Some of the more boring talks seem like my time would be better spent doing homework. But I'll def. be at the more fun ones. Uhm, you can notice me cuse I'll look Jewish. haha. That's the only good description I can think to give.

[84Sunbird2000]

Thanks snowpeach! I just don't really know anything about the Cleveland area. I am married, so my wife will have to find a job near the area. She should be able to transfer easily with her company, but I don't know what the areas are like and which ones are safe. We live in Los Angeles, so we are familiar with city living, but we didn't know if there were any artsy districts, trendy areas or even nice historical areas to live in. And what are typical rent prices?

First thing you should note: Cleveland is not a real city. Granted there is a downtown area, but Case is not in it. We are in what's called University Circle, right next to all the museums, Severance Hall (the really great orchestra) and the hospital. Right down the street is the Cleveland clinic. Seems like half the people who live around here are employed by Case or one of the two main hospitals. So, if she is in the medical field, well, that would be great. Anyway, the public transportation is really sketchy, most people drive. I personally, get more of a suburban than urban feel. The Suburbs here are really nice. Some really wealthy ones, but even they are somewhat affordable to live in. Living here is cheap, at least compared to NY which is where I grew up. Cleveland suburbs, and the Case campus is safe. But a block away is the ghetto. We get crime reports weekly. The city is super dangerous, so don't walk around at night.

As for trendy areas, uhm, Coventry is a street (really close by!) with a small music venue and a bunch of really good restaurants. It's where all the emo kids hang out. Downtown also has a ton of fantastic restaurants, but they are a bit more expensive. There aren't really any 'artsy' areas around here, but there are artsy places if you look for them.[ Shaker Heights has a lot of gorgeous old houses. If that is what you want. Really, any suburb is a good place to live. Near campus, there are apartments in Little Italy. But, it's mostly younger students who live there. Hope this answers your questions. If you need me to narrow down more places I can, since, it's kind of hard to sum up everything.

I do think Cleveland is a real city, but it definitely has more "spread" than it did 40 years ago, because of gentrification and inner-city decay. It's actually fairly calm and there are nice suburbs and nice apartment areas like you said.

However, my main disagreement is with your assertion that Cleveland doesn't have any real artsy areas. First, nearby Severance Hall houses one of the, if not THE best orchestras in the nation. In fact, it is one of the absolute best in the entire world. I actually wrote a story that was, in essence, about George Szell, even though I substituted Cleveland Opera for Cleveland Orchestra. The man was brilliant but extremely cruel in firing musicians.

Playhouse Square is the second largest theater complex in the country, where Opera Cleveland and tons of Broadway touring companies perform.

The Cleveland Museum of Art is also one of the major art museums in the country. Plus, yes, the unmentionable: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

However, out of rust belt cities, Cleveland has the BEST arts scene.

[snowpeach06]

Thanks snowpeach! I just don't really know anything about the Cleveland area. I am married, so my wife will have to find a job near the area. She should be able to transfer easily with her company, but I don't know what the areas are like and which ones are safe. We live in Los Angeles, so we are familiar with city living, but we didn't know if there were any artsy districts, trendy areas or even nice historical areas to live in. And what are typical rent prices?

First thing you should note: Cleveland is not a real city. Granted there is a downtown area, but Case is not in it. We are in what's called University Circle, right next to all the museums, Severance Hall (the really great orchestra) and the hospital. Right down the street is the Cleveland clinic. Seems like half the people who live around here are employed by Case or one of the two main hospitals. So, if she is in the medical field, well, that would be great. Anyway, the public transportation is really sketchy, most people drive. I personally, get more of a suburban than urban feel. The Suburbs here are really nice. Some really wealthy ones, but even they are somewhat affordable to live in. Living here is cheap, at least compared to NY which is where I grew up. Cleveland suburbs, and the Case campus is safe. But a block away is the ghetto. We get crime reports weekly. The city is super dangerous, so don't walk around at night.

As for trendy areas, uhm, Coventry is a street (really close by!) with a small music venue and a bunch of really good restaurants. It's where all the emo kids hang out. Downtown also has a ton of fantastic restaurants, but they are a bit more expensive. There aren't really any 'artsy' areas around here, but there are artsy places if you look for them.[ Shaker Heights has a lot of gorgeous old houses. If that is what you want. Really, any suburb is a good place to live. Near campus, there are apartments in Little Italy. But, it's mostly younger students who live there. Hope this answers your questions. If you need me to narrow down more places I can, since, it's kind of hard to sum up everything.

I do think Cleveland is a real city, but it definitely has more "spread" than it did 40 years ago, because of gentrification and inner-city decay. It's actually fairly calm and there are nice suburbs and nice apartment areas like you said.

However, my main disagreement is with your assertion that Cleveland doesn't have any real artsy areas. First, nearby Severance Hall houses one of the, if not THE best orchestras in the nation. In fact, it is one of the absolute best in the entire world. I actually wrote a story that was, in essence, about George Szell, even though I substituted Cleveland Opera for Cleveland Orchestra. The man was brilliant but extremely cruel in firing musicians.

Playhouse Square is the second largest theater complex in the country, where Opera Cleveland and tons of Broadway touring companies perform.

The Cleveland Museum of Art is also one of the major art museums in the country. Plus, yes, the unmentionable: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

However, out of rust belt cities, Cleveland has the BEST arts scene.

I don't disagree with any of that. I guess just none of that is what I think of when I think 'artsy'. That word to me kind of indicates an indie sort of thing. Whereas all the stuff you mentioned is a bit more mainstream. Cleveland def. isn't short on entertainment and culture though.

[sweet02215]

In with 30k today.. not sure if I'll be attending. Still waiting to get off the Illinois waitlist!