Fordham Waiting Room Forum

[sibley]

i think my DS has more weight in places like iowa and virginia... im guessing being LGBT in NYC isnt shocking or diverse

lol. but if you angled it how it effected your upbringing (assuming you were raised in iowa or virginia) it could still be influential.

going to start a thread about diversity and government jobs' special hiring authorities. because i'm curious. and my doc wants me on this crazy medicine for a couple months. and I'm in a foggggg.

[fitzgerald86]

So many LGTB Fordham hopefuls posting in recent days

I hope I'll be seeing you at OUTLaw meetings . . .

Although you're right . . . probably should have written my diversity statement on being a Red Sox fan.

[badpixie]

i think my DS has more weight in places like iowa and virginia... im guessing being LGBT in NYC isnt shocking or diverse

I thought the same thing. I'm hoping that "old broad with WE" is going to be a stronger soft than my LGBT status.

[sibley]

So many LGTB Fordham hopefuls posting in recent days

I hope I'll be seeing you at OUTLaw meetings . . .

Although you're right . . . probably should have written my diversity statement on being a Red Sox fan.

=D

[even2flow]

Although you're right . . . probably should have written my diversity statement on being a Red Sox fan.

That may just send you right to the reject pile for that. Then they'd justify it by saying you sound like you're "entitled"

[sibley]

Although you're right . . . probably should have written my diversity statement on being a Red Sox fan.

That may just send you right to the reject pile for that. Then they'd justify it by saying you sound like you're "entitled"

=D =D

[chutzpah]

So I just got into Northwestern (yay!). I was mentally prepared to have to choose between DC and NY, and now Chicago is in the running. Any current or former Chicago-ers care to comment about the city?

[sibley]

So I just got into Northwestern (yay!). I was mentally prepared to have to choose between DC and NY, and now Chicago is in the running. Any current or former Chicago-ers care to comment about the city?

I got WL at UChicago for undergrad (my brother went there so I had a nice fee waiver! yay!)... it's a nice city, with a big architectural history (I took a class on it! it was good) and a nice lake (I like living on the great lakes)... it also is FREEZING. colder than the other two.

[OperaSoprano]

So I just got into Northwestern (yay!). I was mentally prepared to have to choose between DC and NY, and now Chicago is in the running. Any current or former Chicago-ers care to comment about the city?

Congratulations! I commend your questions about the school to the care of Rayiner, who is fantastic, and a huge credit to NU.

[H. E. Pennypacker]

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[OperaSoprano]

i had a dream just now that i was telling someone about how my dreams sometimes come true.

and then i was waitlisted at fordham.

... but i woke up and i wasnt. yet.

=) props to hanging on! always a success this cycle, it seems.

I'm thinking about what OS said. I don't think my PS seemed entitled. I think I did come across that I'm confident in my ability to succeed, so hopefully they didn't see that as entitled... but the majority of the piece just talked about how this international student inspired me by overcoming a huge obstacle of law, family safety, and immigration in a very smart and legal-esque way. I'm not sure how anyone could think that I could think I'm entitled, though, with my 3.34.... maybe when I submit my LOCI I'll add a diversity statement, if I didn't originally.

It's going to say I'm broken. I'm falling apart! I was so happy because I went to the doc yesterday and she prescribed me new meds to try to get rid of this chronic and backwards psychosomatic pain, one of those with a 'controlled substance' label, but there's a warning about drowsiness... I don't feel drowsy, but I feel dizzy, and the way that you feel after you've been reading a novel for a long time, you know that feeling? Kind of oblivious to the world... Meh.

Numbers, in your case. A 3.34 is almost a guaranteed WL, absent URM status, even with a 168+.

To address the LGBT comments: Fordham is a very gay friendly school. There are at least six people in my section who are out (who have specifically told me), and everyone is close to everyone else. I don't really think about which of my friends are gay, because they are my friends, and I adore them. My first UG was in a conservative city in the south, and things were very different there.

[fitzgerald86]

Hey Fitzy, this was from my Futures at Fenway game back in 08. Jealous?


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Very jealous!

[Kilpatrick]

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[labourer]

reading that Fordham makes admissions decisions based on soft factors makes me wonder - is it the same for merti aid? or does the money generally go to people with high numbers?

[hannah87]

So I just got into Northwestern (yay!). I was mentally prepared to have to choose between DC and NY, and now Chicago is in the running. Any current or former Chicago-ers care to comment about the city?

congrats, chutzpah!!

[OperaSoprano]

Is Fordham known as being unfriendly to splitters? A 3.34 is over their 25th%. Is it really an automatic waitlist?

Just about, for non URMs in the day program. You would have to hit 169 or 170 to make it more likely than not that you wouldn't be waitlisted with that GPA, at least for a typical college senior or recent graduate.

I had other issues (my school and major), but I sat on the PT waitlist for 99 days with a 164/3.37. FT 3.3x people got in in May and June.

[fitzgerald86]

i had a dream just now that i was telling someone about how my dreams sometimes come true.

and then i was waitlisted at fordham.

... but i woke up and i wasnt. yet.

=) props to hanging on! always a success this cycle, it seems.

I'm thinking about what OS said. I don't think my PS seemed entitled. I think I did come across that I'm confident in my ability to succeed, so hopefully they didn't see that as entitled... but the majority of the piece just talked about how this international student inspired me by overcoming a huge obstacle of law, family safety, and immigration in a very smart and legal-esque way. I'm not sure how anyone could think that I could think I'm entitled, though, with my 3.34.... maybe when I submit my LOCI I'll add a diversity statement, if I didn't originally.

It's going to say I'm broken. I'm falling apart! I was so happy because I went to the doc yesterday and she prescribed me new meds to try to get rid of this chronic and backwards psychosomatic pain, one of those with a 'controlled substance' label, but there's a warning about drowsiness... I don't feel drowsy, but I feel dizzy, and the way that you feel after you've been reading a novel for a long time, you know that feeling? Kind of oblivious to the world... Meh.

Numbers, in your case. A 3.34 is almost a guaranteed WL, absent URM status, even with a 168+.

To address the LGBT comments: Fordham is a very gay friendly school. There are at least six people in my section who are out (who have specifically told me), and everyone is close to everyone else. I don't really think about which of my friends are gay, because they are my friends, and I adore them. My first UG was in a conservative city in the south, and things were very different there.

I've always had the impression that Fordham is a gay-friendly school. I attended Jesuit schools for high school and college, and I often had people ask me if the schools' Catholic backgrounds made their environments unwelcoming for LGTB students. Quite the opposite! The Jesuits are such a wonderful order; they've always been very open-minded and forward-thinking, as well as inclusive.

Truth be told, the religious background isn't often noticeable (for better or worse, depending on your viewpoint) at these Jesuit schools, unless you purposefully seek it out. But, after eight years of Jesuit education, I am still drawn by the notion of being "Men and Women for Others," which I think is still emphasized at these schools, in both a religious and nonreligious context.

[OperaSoprano]

reading that Fordham makes admissions decisions based on soft factors makes me wonder - is it the same for merti aid? or does the money generally go to people with high numbers?

Merit aid is normally about numbers, though admissions decisions, thank goodness, are slightly more holistic.

[LaurenGayle]

reading that Fordham makes admissions decisions based on soft factors makes me wonder - is it the same for merti aid? or does the money generally go to people with high numbers?

I was told by the financial aid office that (initial) merit offers are based solely on numbers.

[labourer]

reading that Fordham makes admissions decisions based on soft factors makes me wonder - is it the same for merti aid? or does the money generally go to people with high numbers?

Merit aid is normally about numbers, though admissions decisions, thank goodness, are slightly more holistic.

thanks - that's kind of what i was afraid of. i've been admitted with, what i'm coming to learn on this site, pretty low numbers for a non-urm. but now i'm not sure i could afford it (and i'm debt averse as i want a career in public interest).

[OperaSoprano]

i had a dream just now that i was telling someone about how my dreams sometimes come true.

and then i was waitlisted at fordham.

... but i woke up and i wasnt. yet.

=) props to hanging on! always a success this cycle, it seems.

I'm thinking about what OS said. I don't think my PS seemed entitled. I think I did come across that I'm confident in my ability to succeed, so hopefully they didn't see that as entitled... but the majority of the piece just talked about how this international student inspired me by overcoming a huge obstacle of law, family safety, and immigration in a very smart and legal-esque way. I'm not sure how anyone could think that I could think I'm entitled, though, with my 3.34.... maybe when I submit my LOCI I'll add a diversity statement, if I didn't originally.

It's going to say I'm broken. I'm falling apart! I was so happy because I went to the doc yesterday and she prescribed me new meds to try to get rid of this chronic and backwards psychosomatic pain, one of those with a 'controlled substance' label, but there's a warning about drowsiness... I don't feel drowsy, but I feel dizzy, and the way that you feel after you've been reading a novel for a long time, you know that feeling? Kind of oblivious to the world... Meh.

Numbers, in your case. A 3.34 is almost a guaranteed WL, absent URM status, even with a 168+.

To address the LGBT comments: Fordham is a very gay friendly school. There are at least six people in my section who are out (who have specifically told me), and everyone is close to everyone else. I don't really think about which of my friends are gay, because they are my friends, and I adore them. My first UG was in a conservative city in the south, and things were very different there.

I've always had the impression that Fordham is a gay-friendly school. I attended Jesuit schools for high school and college, and I often had people ask me if the schools' Catholic backgrounds made their environments unwelcoming for LGTB students. Quite the opposite! The Jesuits are such a wonderful order; they've always been very open-minded and forward-thinking, as well as inclusive.

Truth be told, the religious background isn't often noticeable (for better or worse, depending on your viewpoint) at these Jesuit schools, unless you purposefully seek it out. But, after eight years of Jesuit education, I am still drawn by the notion of being "Men and Women for Others," which I think is still emphasized at these schools, in both a religious and nonreligious context.

It is. I am super progressive, and a nonpracticing Jew, but I am very proud of Fordham's Jesuit tradition. I think it adds something to the school, and service is definitely emphasized. FLS has made it very easy for me to rack up pro bono hours by giving me places to volunteer! If I ever saw homophobia here, I think I would be staggering away in abject shock.

[France121069]

somone please help!!

Fordham no money vs. Brooklyn full ride.

I havent even heard from Fordham re: scholarship, but I assume I wont get one.

don't assume! i haven't heard about a scholarship yet, either, but the admissions officer i spoke to told me they've "hardly made any scholarship offers yet."

I would absolutely do the Brookly full ride. I went to grad school pre-law school application and I can tell you that it is killing me to know that the debt I have from grad school is looming. If you can avoid having to pay to go to school it's such a better place to be when you're done. Also, wouldn't it be better to potentially be a big fish in a smaller pond (i.e., Brooklyn) than fight to be at the top at Fordham?

[OperaSoprano]

reading that Fordham makes admissions decisions based on soft factors makes me wonder - is it the same for merti aid? or does the money generally go to people with high numbers?

Merit aid is normally about numbers, though admissions decisions, thank goodness, are slightly more holistic.

thanks - that's kind of what i was afraid of. i've been admitted with, what i'm coming to learn on this site, pretty low numbers for a non-urm. but now i'm not sure i could afford it (and i'm debt averse as i want a career in public interest).

I do too, and I am borrowing everything. Between IBR and the school LRAP, it's very doable, though you won't get rich.

[fitzgerald86]

OS - first off, thank you for being such a wonderful source - regarding what you said about personal statements . . . is it safe to assume that if you're waitlisted with above median numbers, for both LSAT and GPA, that something in your PS hit a raw nerve with the adcom? If so, any impression from DB what the proper response would be? Obviously a LOCI, but should you try a fresh start or attempt to address anything in your PS that might have turned them off?

[jl2032]

OS, do you know if there is any merit aid for PT students?

I'm worried about the 3.34, but with a 172 and a minority I thought I might get something. Am I out of luck?