michigan 2010 applicants Forum

[starstruck393]

Also, quick question about the being excluded from need based aid...what if you are a very high need candidate and you get a scholarship from michigan? Is it possible you would get more need based aid if you declined the merit one?

Maybe if it's only a small scholarship (< $45k?). Is there anyone with, say, a $30k scholarship that could share their scholarship's stipulations to see? But even then, the grant probably wouldn't be very much more.

I guess I'm confused as to what a very high need candidate is. I can understand with college, where it's so much more common for parents to pay, that taking out large loans could be a problem (it's a big burden on low income parents). But with law school, it seems like for the vast majority of those who take out loans, it's the students who take them out. You'd be able to take out the entire tuition + COL for three years through the financial aid loan options, so I guess I'm not sure how some people can be very high need, while the majority isn't. If such a large percentage of students take out massive loans, it seems like they're all very high need, or none of them are...

Yeah I understand what you mean...for me I have family obligations in that I have been helping to support my family since highschool. This will be the first time I can't really work or help them out and if I can it won't be enough to send money to them. In UG I worked full-time, or just under for most of my time there.

That's understandable. I was just curious. Like I said, I knew the group from UG, where debt can be killer. Even engineering and science grads will only start out around $50-$60k, which makes paying down massive debt very hard. But in law school, where most students seem to be on their own, and many of us really don't have any money, it seems like we're all that high need type.

I'd definitely talk to the schools, and explain your situation. You may want to consider, as well, a PT program. I know a few people that work ~full time during the day, and take night classes. It's not an easy life, and it takes longer, but it may suit your needs. Good luck getting whatever you choose to work out.

[mb88]

I went "Complete" at Michigan on Jan 13, but my status was updated on the 18th, the 21st, and the 22nd. Still at complete, though. Anybody else have this happen? Know what's going on?

[starstruck393]

I went "Complete" at Michigan on Jan 13, but my status was updated on the 18th, the 21st, and the 22nd. Still at complete, though. Anybody else have this happen? Know what's going on?

It updates everyday save for a day each weekend...

[mb88]

I went "Complete" at Michigan on Jan 13, but my status was updated on the 18th, the 21st, and the 22nd. Still at complete, though. Anybody else have this happen? Know what's going on?

It updates everyday save for a day each weekend...

Oh, does it?

Well slap a dunce cap on me, then. My other status checkers don't do that, and I just assumed Michigan was the same.

[Lincoln]

After being complete on 1/11 and not getting my letter for a week I went ahead and emailed them. Rejected, indeed. I actually asked why, since I have a fairly long history with them, and got a nice if not terribly informative reply from Dean Z. Guess I just didn't have the numbers (median LSAT; 25th percentile GPA). Good luck to everyone still in the running. I've now been rejected from my top 2 choices, with no acceptances, so this cycle doesn't look good. Time for plan B?

[starstruck393]

After being complete on 1/11 and not getting my letter for a week I went ahead and emailed them. Rejected, indeed. I actually asked why, since I have a fairly long history with them, and got a nice if not terribly informative reply from Dean Z. Guess I just didn't have the numbers (median LSAT; 25th percentile GPA). Good luck to everyone still in the running. I've now been rejected from my top 2 choices, with no acceptances, so this cycle doesn't look good. Time for plan B?

ED UVA?

[mb88]

After being complete on 1/11 and not getting my letter for a week I went ahead and emailed them. Rejected, indeed. I actually asked why, since I have a fairly long history with them, and got a nice if not terribly informative reply from Dean Z. Guess I just didn't have the numbers (median LSAT; 25th percentile GPA). Good luck to everyone still in the running. I've now been rejected from my top 2 choices, with no acceptances, so this cycle doesn't look good. Time for plan B?

Perhaps I'm still being a dunce, but what letter are you referring to? Do you mean that you went Decision Rendered on 1/11, and then never received word, or just complete?

[Kretzy]

Withdrawing today folks. Michigan is awesome though, and Dean Z rocks. Everyone winding up there should be stoked.

[JetstoRJC]

Withdrawing today folks. Michigan is awesome though, and Dean Z rocks. Everyone winding up there should be stoked.

Can you mention when you withdraw to transfer your scholarship to me?

[Kretzy]

Withdrawing today folks. Michigan is awesome though, and Dean Z rocks. Everyone winding up there should be stoked.

Can you mention when you withdraw to transfer your scholarship to me?

Yuppers

[Lincoln]

After being complete on 1/11 and not getting my letter for a week I went ahead and emailed them. Rejected, indeed. I actually asked why, since I have a fairly long history with them, and got a nice if not terribly informative reply from Dean Z. Guess I just didn't have the numbers (median LSAT; 25th percentile GPA). Good luck to everyone still in the running. I've now been rejected from my top 2 choices, with no acceptances, so this cycle doesn't look good. Time for plan B?

Perhaps I'm still being a dunce, but what letter are you referring to? Do you mean that you went Decision Rendered on 1/11, and then never received word, or just complete?

Sorry. That was insanely unclear. I went to "Decision" on 1/11. The letter was the inevitable rejection letter, which they apparently sent but I never got.

[Bronte]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

[Anastasia Dee Dualla]

Let see here...submitted 9/21...and today still nothing. Tear.

[Helmholtz]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

I believe some have, yes, but at this point, it sort of looks like it's all over the place.

[02082010]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

I believe some have, yes, but at this point, it sort of looks like it's all over the place.

Can you just start a "Michigan 0L taking questions" thread already?

[calicocat]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

I believe some have, yes, but at this point, it sort of looks like it's all over the place.

Can you just start a "Michigan 0L taking questions" thread already?

hahahahahaha

I ran here after you mentioned it on BP

lolz

[02082010]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

I believe some have, yes, but at this point, it sort of looks like it's all over the place.

Can you just start a "Michigan 0L taking questions" thread already?

hahahahahaha

I ran here after you mentioned it on BP

lolz

I thought it was funny too. Helm's just being pissy today.

[panadera]

How's the descending value scholarship theory holding up? Have any $30k's gone out yet?

As Helm said, some have gone out. I got my $30k offer in the mail less than a week ago. Good luck to you (and I love your name).

[ShibaDan]

Also, quick question about the being excluded from need based aid...what if you are a very high need candidate and you get a scholarship from michigan? Is it possible you would get more need based aid if you declined the merit one?

Maybe if it's only a small scholarship (< $45k?). Is there anyone with, say, a $30k scholarship that could share their scholarship's stipulations to see? But even then, the grant probably wouldn't be very much more.

I guess I'm confused as to what a very high need candidate is. I can understand with college, where it's so much more common for parents to pay, that taking out large loans could be a problem (it's a big burden on low income parents). But with law school, it seems like for the vast majority of those who take out loans, it's the students who take them out. You'd be able to take out the entire tuition + COL for three years through the financial aid loan options, so I guess I'm not sure how some people can be very high need, while the majority isn't. If such a large percentage of students take out massive loans, it seems like they're all very high need, or none of them are...

Yeah I understand what you mean...for me I have family obligations in that I have been helping to support my family since highschool. This will be the first time I can't really work or help them out and if I can it won't be enough to send money to them. In UG I worked full-time, or just under for most of my time there.

That's understandable. I was just curious. Like I said, I knew the group from UG, where debt can be killer. Even engineering and science grads will only start out around $50-$60k, which makes paying down massive debt very hard. But in law school, where most students seem to be on their own, and many of us really don't have any money, it seems like we're all that high need type.

I'd definitely talk to the schools, and explain your situation. You may want to consider, as well, a PT program. I know a few people that work ~full time during the day, and take night classes. It's not an easy life, and it takes longer, but it may suit your needs. Good luck getting whatever you choose to work out.

Thanks! I really don't want to do part-time because in the long run it's going to cost more. I think I may just try to work PT in 1L...but I hear it's frowned upon and very difficult to do.

[coollegemex]

I was admitted on Xmas eve. Got my $65,700 offer yesterday, mailed on 1/8

Don't think it is enough to sway me from Stanford though so I will be withdrawing soon. Good luck All!

[Helmholtz]

I was admitted on Xmas eve. Got my $65,700 offer yesterday, mailed on 1/8

Don't think it is enough to sway me from Stanford though so I will be withdrawing soon. Good luck All!

Don't think anybody blames you there. Good luck on all your future professional endeavors, or whatever it is the schools respond to a withdraw with.

[rockchalk86]

Are the legal writing classes graded or pass/fail?

[starstruck393]

Also, quick question about the being excluded from need based aid...what if you are a very high need candidate and you get a scholarship from michigan? Is it possible you would get more need based aid if you declined the merit one?

Maybe if it's only a small scholarship (< $45k?). Is there anyone with, say, a $30k scholarship that could share their scholarship's stipulations to see? But even then, the grant probably wouldn't be very much more.

I guess I'm confused as to what a very high need candidate is. I can understand with college, where it's so much more common for parents to pay, that taking out large loans could be a problem (it's a big burden on low income parents). But with law school, it seems like for the vast majority of those who take out loans, it's the students who take them out. You'd be able to take out the entire tuition + COL for three years through the financial aid loan options, so I guess I'm not sure how some people can be very high need, while the majority isn't. If such a large percentage of students take out massive loans, it seems like they're all very high need, or none of them are...

Yeah I understand what you mean...for me I have family obligations in that I have been helping to support my family since highschool. This will be the first time I can't really work or help them out and if I can it won't be enough to send money to them. In UG I worked full-time, or just under for most of my time there.

That's understandable. I was just curious. Like I said, I knew the group from UG, where debt can be killer. Even engineering and science grads will only start out around $50-$60k, which makes paying down massive debt very hard. But in law school, where most students seem to be on their own, and many of us really don't have any money, it seems like we're all that high need type.

I'd definitely talk to the schools, and explain your situation. You may want to consider, as well, a PT program. I know a few people that work ~full time during the day, and take night classes. It's not an easy life, and it takes longer, but it may suit your needs. Good luck getting whatever you choose to work out.

Thanks! I really don't want to do part-time because in the long run it's going to cost more. I think I may just try to work PT in 1L...but I hear it's frowned upon and very difficult to do.

Do you mean PT would cost more because of lost time at a higher salary? Yea it is frowned upon, and I can understand why, since 1L year can be so hard. I guess the thing you need to watch out for with working PT is that while 10 or so hours a week probably wouldn't be much of a hindrance, it won't provide you with much money, and once you start working enough hours so that the money you make becomes significant, you risk falling behind and getting bad grades which could severely hurt you when you look for a job...

[starstruck393]

Are the legal writing classes graded or pass/fail?

I thought pass/fail

[Holly Golightly]

I had a dream last night about Michigan that really made me want to go there. haha