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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by skynet » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:29 am

doomcannon wrote:Coming out of the lurk-closet. Any thoughts on post-JR1 LOCI at this point?

I had a JR1 in early Feb but haven't heard anything since. I think I have a decent shot numbers-wise (both ~75ths) but have obviously missed 2 months worth of Mondays at this point. re: letter material, my personal situation hasn't changed much, but I never wrote a "why harvard" either. I do think it would be a great opportunity to have access to/work with the Berkman Center. Heard the rest of the law school is OK too.

I'm not sure what point a letter would serve except to reaffirm my interest; is that necessary with/desired at a top school like Harvard?
Didn't you cover "Why Harvard?" in your JR1?

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Post by gatordude94 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:53 am

doomcannon wrote:Coming out of the lurk-closet. Any thoughts on post-JR1 LOCI at this point?

I had a JR1 in early Feb but haven't heard anything since. I think I have a decent shot numbers-wise (both ~75ths) but have obviously missed 2 months worth of Mondays at this point. re: letter material, my personal situation hasn't changed much, but I never wrote a "why harvard" either. I do think it would be a great opportunity to have access to/work with the Berkman Center. Heard the rest of the law school is OK too.

I'm not sure what point a letter would serve except to reaffirm my interest; is that necessary with/desired at a top school like Harvard?
I found it cathartic to follow up on my JR1 and make it clear that HLS was my first choice. If I get a JR2, will it be because of my LOCI? Highly doubt it. But if I get rejected/WL'd, I'll have closure that I played all the cards I had.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by amolson04 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:53 pm

Unitas wrote:
mcm814 wrote:I can't really figure out who exactly is my "number buddy"--does caliber of the undergrad insitution (not to start that whole debate again...) factor in at all, or just straight up GPA?
Not so subtle anti me post... But I think UG does matter ...

Also, how many people in here are just at under review still? They must have already completed all the applications from before the deadline by now. Right?
i'm still under review 1/22, I think. I'm just trying to figure out why it's taken them so long to reject me ... good softs? lol :?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by adameus » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:00 pm

amolson04 wrote:
Unitas wrote:
mcm814 wrote:I can't really figure out who exactly is my "number buddy"--does caliber of the undergrad insitution (not to start that whole debate again...) factor in at all, or just straight up GPA?
Not so subtle anti me post... But I think UG does matter ...

Also, how many people in here are just at under review still? They must have already completed all the applications from before the deadline by now. Right?
i'm still under review 1/22, I think. I'm just trying to figure out why it's taken them so long to reject me ... good softs? lol :?

probably a waitlist, but a JR1 is definetely still a possibility

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by amolson04 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:02 pm

adameus wrote:
amolson04 wrote:
Unitas wrote:
mcm814 wrote:I can't really figure out who exactly is my "number buddy"--does caliber of the undergrad insitution (not to start that whole debate again...) factor in at all, or just straight up GPA?
Not so subtle anti me post... But I think UG does matter ...

Also, how many people in here are just at under review still? They must have already completed all the applications from before the deadline by now. Right?
i'm still under review 1/22, I think. I'm just trying to figure out why it's taken them so long to reject me ... good softs? lol :?

probably a waitlist, but a JR1 is definetely still a possibility
you really think so? even with my crappy gpa? (i did write a pretty good addendum about that, though).

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by mcm814 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:08 pm

So i know that they've dragged this whole thing out pretty long in the past with waitlist, etc. but when do you think we can reasonalby hope to hear something by??? Mid april??

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Post by legalnoeagle » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:34 pm

mcm814 wrote:So i know that they've dragged this whole thing out pretty long in the past with waitlist, etc. but when do you think we can reasonalby hope to hear something by??? Mid april??

According to the LSN stats from last year, the WL fiesta should begin in mid-April.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by invisiblesun » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:40 pm

legalnoeagle wrote:
mcm814 wrote:So i know that they've dragged this whole thing out pretty long in the past with waitlist, etc. but when do you think we can reasonalby hope to hear something by??? Mid april??

According to the LSN stats from last year, the WL fiesta should begin in mid-April.
I'm not sure how relevant last year's stats are because of the new dean and the hold process. According to last year, basically everyone is screwed at this point apart from a very small few (i think 4 outright admits later than this time last year)...but that scenario seems unrealistic considering how many people are held. I think HLS probably has about 10% of the admit pool to go.

P.S. anyone know anyone who knows anyone at HLS admissions? :D

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by adameus » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:45 pm

invisiblesun wrote:
legalnoeagle wrote:
mcm814 wrote:So i know that they've dragged this whole thing out pretty long in the past with waitlist, etc. but when do you think we can reasonalby hope to hear something by??? Mid april??

According to the LSN stats from last year, the WL fiesta should begin in mid-April.
I'm not sure how relevant last year's stats are because of the new dean and the hold process. According to last year, basically everyone is screwed at this point apart from a very small few (i think 4 outright admits later than this time last year)...but that scenario seems unrealistic considering how many people are held. I think HLS probably has about 10% of the admit pool to go.

P.S. anyone know anyone who knows anyone at HLS admissions? :D
Sorry, I've only got a Stanford connection....

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by somewhatwayward » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:24 pm

amolson04 wrote:
adameus wrote:probably a waitlist, but a JR1 is definetely still a possibility
you really think so? even with my crappy gpa? (i did write a pretty good addendum about that, though).
well, not to be a downer, but i'm a JR1-hold HYP 171/3.9, but i think it is sort of a good sign that i know a lot of HYP holds as of now (including you), which means there is an outside possibility that they haven't made final decisions about our pool yet....or maybe they're just WLing a slew of us.

my softs are probably average, though....varsity athlete, PBK, one publication (second author), and one identifying soft i don't wanna list

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by CanadianEH » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:43 pm

How many others on here have heard absolutely nothing since their complete e-mail?

I went complete somewhere in mid Feb, and have been in the dark ever since.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by Sauer Grapes » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:46 pm

CanadianEH wrote:How many others on here have heard absolutely nothing since their complete e-mail?

I went complete somewhere in mid Feb, and have been in the dark ever since.
I heard nothing until I found out I was a dingbat just now.

Complete mid january.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by mcm814 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:48 pm

I've heard nothing since my complete email in early feb. Dun. Dun. Dun. (HYP 178/3.5/3 yrs work exp.)

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by adameus » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:49 pm

amolson04 wrote:
adameus wrote:
probably a waitlist, but a JR1 is definetely still a possibility
you really think so? even with my crappy gpa? (i did write a pretty good addendum about that, though).

Anything is a possibility, I don't think it's likely, but it's possible. You definetely would need to bring something else to the table (ie. strong softs) other than your #'s though.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by PoorOrpheus » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:56 pm

Sorry to all of yesterday's and today's dings. Here's a link for those who want to check out the stats/dates for those rejected:
http://harvard.lawschoolnumbers.com/app ... order=desc

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by Jericwithers » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:08 pm

Rejections done by email?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by amolson04 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:16 pm

adameus wrote:
amolson04 wrote:
adameus wrote:
probably a waitlist, but a JR1 is definetely still a possibility
you really think so? even with my crappy gpa? (i did write a pretty good addendum about that, though).

Anything is a possibility, I don't think it's likely, but it's possible. You definetely would need to bring something else to the table (ie. strong softs) other than your #'s though.
lol, that's putting it nicely! :lol: i only applied so i would have no "what ifs." my numbers are somewhat fudged, but yeah, i thought for sure i was auto-reject.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by Sauer Grapes » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:19 pm

Jericwithers wrote:Rejections done by email?
Yes.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by runnerman » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:34 pm

Just got a hold email, totally unexpected. Complete 1/13, 168/3.8 non-URM with some decent softs.

Why hold so late in the cycle, why not just waitlist or reject?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by clintonius » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:39 pm

People have been asking that for, what, a month and a half now? The consensus is [REDACTED]

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by invisiblesun » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:40 pm

runnerman wrote:Just got a hold email, totally unexpected. Complete 1/13, 168/3.8 non-URM with some decent softs.

Why hold so late in the cycle, why not just waitlist or reject?
WTF why are they holding so late?!??!??!?!??(etc.)

This points to the possibility of a date where a slew of decisions come out, and they're just holding people if they need the extra time to consider them (rather than auto-rejecting).

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by iminlstrick » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:43 pm

Sorry I've been MIA for awhile, grad school is time consuming. I'm guessing there are others who applied on the very first day apps opened, were held in the very first bunch without a JR1, and at this point want to /themselves re: the silence/indecision?

Okay good, just checking.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by Unitas » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:54 pm

They rejected a withdrawn applicant?? http://lawschoolnumbers.com/jmaan
Harsh..

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by eattrucks » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:58 pm

If you look back at earlier years on LSN there are a lot more acceptances out of the hold group than last year. The timelines don't all match up either, though most cycles were done with outright admits before April. I believe this all just points to the fact that this year is a bit of an anomaly, and that we won't be able to predict any outcomes based on the past.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Post by Unitas » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:13 pm

eattrucks wrote:If you look back at earlier years on LSN there are a lot more acceptances out of the hold group than last year. The timelines don't all match up either, though most cycles were done with outright admits before April. I believe this all just points to the fact that this year is a bit of an anomaly, and that we won't be able to predict any outcomes based on the past.
I have no idea what you are talking about here.. I think they have accepted four held applicants that we know of... Last year I also don't think they did this hold business, especially at this level.

I do agree that the timelines don't match up and last year they had a lot more offers out at this time...

BTW, wanted to say sorry to everyone that got rejected today. Most of you have a lot of other options at this point so good luck. To those held today, welcome to the club. If we weren't scattered around the country we could get together..

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