Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

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Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by thebiggdawg55 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:24 am

Okay I'm REALLY torn here: I want to practice in a big law firm in Cali (north or south, doesn't matter) and I'm concerned about Pepperdine's reputation vs. a school like Hastings or Davis which are T1. Pepperdine is offering me $23k/yr. and as of yet, neither Hastings or Davis has made me any offers (though they are public schools, so tuition isn't as bad anyway). I need advice as to what I should do here, as I certainly want to work at a prestigious law firm but I don't want to graduate burdened in debt.

Also, if anyone knows how Cali's laws for establishing in-state residency work (i.e. can I claim in-state tuition after my first year?) then PLEASE let me know. Thanks!

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by augustlights » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:04 pm

I don't know how the law for residency works...but if you want to work in biglaw...DONT GO TO PEPPERDINE. They are way overshadowed by Loyola, and you will have a much easier time getting a biglaw job from either Hastings or Davis (maybe even more so from Hastings).

Did you apply to Loyola? They'd probably give you similar $$...and give you a better, although not great, show at biglaw.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by klpps » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:05 pm

Pepperdine is a great option. If you work your arse off and finish in the top 30% of your class, you'll be fine. Regarding Pepperdine vs. Loyola, a lot of threads on this board about that already. My feeling however is that Pepperdine is on the rise and Loyola is kind of stuck where it is.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by kevsocko » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:10 pm

from what i have learned, hasting has a much bigger network of alumni around the state and is easier to get into big law than through davis.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by Darth Topher » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:11 pm

I would try aim at Hastings. It seems like it has the best reputation overall. The COL may be high and the location may be a bit "rough" however.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by kevsocko » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:41 pm

aaaah, the ghetto. it will remind me of my schoolboy days.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by augustlights » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:44 pm

Pepperdine is a beautiful school...great community, ect... It's a fine school if you're not gunning for biglaw...which is what the OP wants.

Just look up the NALP interviews for Pepperdine vs. Loyola. Loyola beats Pepperdine by a landslide. Pepperdine might be on the rise, but LA firms really aren't taking note of it.

If you're looking to do something other than biglaw, then Pepperdine might totally be worth the money.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by kevsocko » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:45 pm

but you will have to hang out with kenneth starr. that would keep me out of any law school.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by publicservant101 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:56 pm

kevsocko wrote:but you will have to hang out with kenneth starr. that would keep me out of any law school.

TITCR (my first use of the acronym!)

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by hope » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:12 pm

publicservant101 wrote:
kevsocko wrote:but you will have to hang out with kenneth starr. that would keep me out of any law school.

TITCR (my first use of the acronym!)
at the risk of sounding really dumb, what does TITCR stand for?
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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by publicservant101 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:17 pm

don't worry hope, after seeing it all over TLS i finally gave in and looked it up...it stands for "this is the credited response" ...good ol' LSAT references, gotta love 'em.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by utilitarianjac » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:35 pm

I wouldn't be concerned about being "too liberal" at Pepperdine. They don't reject liberals. In fact, their faculty is split about 50-50. Few colleges can come close to claiming an ideological balance.

It is certainly a unique school, not for everybody.
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publicservant101 wrote:
kevsocko wrote:but you will have to hang out with kenneth starr. that would keep me out of any law school.

TITCR (my first use of the acronym!)
at the risk of sounding really dumb, what does TITCR stand for?

And yes, I am a bit concerned that I'm too liberal, even though I'm Christian.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by thebiggdawg55 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:08 pm

Well Loyola is in the hood, and I didn't apply there anyway so that's out of the question. Does anyone know what UC Hastings or Pepperdine are like? Any law students in Cali or pre-law hopefuls that know the region well? I'm trying to gauge how important this whole "reputation" factor really is.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by sjk » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:12 pm

I do know that Pepperdine told an LGBT applilcant that they dont accept their kind...

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by Katdaddy » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:19 pm

sjkarlina wrote:I do know that Pepperdine told an LGBT applilcant that they dont accept their kind...
They did? That's unforntunate :(

To the OP, go to Hastings.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by mrbuckfutter » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:26 pm

loyola over pepperdine

Davis over loyola generally

but Loyola over Davis for biglaw LA

Hastings over all that

Davis over Hastings for PI

And not going to law school over pepperdine

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by brizz9 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:54 pm

mrbuckfutter wrote: Davis over Hastings for PI
Why Davis over Hastings for PI?

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by kevsocko » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:57 pm

because as many hippies as there are in SF, even more go to davis

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by emilyk » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:00 pm

mrbuckfutter wrote:
And not going to law school over pepperdine
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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by mrbuckfutter » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:43 pm

kevsocko wrote:because as many hippies as there are in SF, even more go to davis
Both Davis and Hastings 3Ls have called me to talk and they confirm that Hastings OCI recruitment in general is not geared toward PI while Davis 3L talked up a storm about all the PI they do and admitted they aren't geared toward biglaw.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by brizz9 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:09 pm

mrbuckfutter wrote:Both Davis and Hastings 3Ls have called me to talk and they confirm that Hastings OCI recruitment in general is not geared toward PI while Davis 3L talked up a storm about all the PI they do and admitted they aren't geared toward biglaw.
Hastings actually hosts a career day with formal OCIs specifically for public interest. I spoke to a couple of public interest attorneys in the Bay Area in the past week, and while they both had good things to say about Davis, they made it clear that they felt Hastings offered stronger opportunities (one was a public defender, the other works in employment law). One of the things they stressed was Hastings advantage of being based in San Francisco where many of the top PI jobs are. They both have excellent LRAP programs.

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by thebiggdawg55 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:22 am

What is Hastings' campus life like? Does anybody know if its a very strong community atmosphere, or is it more of a commuter school?

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Re: Pepperdine ($$$) vs. UC Hastings/Davis

Post by kevsocko » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:30 am

it has no real campus, just a coupe of buildings. i've heard its what you make of it.

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