TLS c/o 2020 - In #Squad We Trust Forum

[brinicolec]

Haha as a descriptive grammarian going to law school, I say "blah blah natural evolution of language blah blah this has all happened before blah blah measure what is not what you think language should be blah"

yeah, vernaculars have always existed and have necessarily been less complex than formalized registers of the same language (and have probably always been annoying to some degree to formally educated speakers)

+180 to all of this

Yeah. I think AAVE is an important part of culture (more for some AAs than others, but still). I think it's a way to help AAs bond/make them feel like there's something that's more exclusive to them. Whether or not it's good, who knows. But I think that, within the community, it carries its own value - especially when you get into vernacular that differs depending on location (aka NYC slang vs DC slang vs LA slang, etc).

[Assasindowntheavenue]

Can't really get into it since I'm at work and can't type long blocks of text, but I generally agree with your posts. Also, if this is the TLS rant hour, just wanted to say that I fucking hate "YASSS" and "Slay" and all those words that usually find their way back to Beyoncé for some reason. Maybe random but whatever lol.

Okay, y'all clearly just haven't had friends that hype you up/hyped up your friends enough because those two words are essential to the "GLO SIS" package.

I can't see myself getting hyped from my friends yelling "YAS!" Lol. It's just played out to me. It's like (forgive the reference while I also have an avi of it) in HIMYM when Lilly said "son of a bitch" and pronounced it "beesh". It was somewhat funny the first time, but when it became a thing it was lame. That's how I see "yas" and "slay" lol.

ETA: this is just my personal opinion/dislike and I acknowledge ppl's differing views on and rights to use these phrases.

Edit: what's GLO SIS?

[Kopetz]

Haha as a descriptive grammarian going to law school, I say "blah blah natural evolution of language blah blah this has all happened before blah blah measure what is not what you think language should be blah"

yeah, vernaculars have always existed and have necessarily been less complex than formalized registers of the same language (and have probably always been annoying to some degree to formally educated speakers)

+180 to all of this

Yeah. I think AAVE is an important part of culture (more for some AAs than others, but still). I think it's a way to help AAs bond/make them feel like there's something that's more exclusive to them. Whether or not it's good, who knows. But I think that, within the community, it carries its own value - especially when you get into vernacular that differs depending on location (aka NYC slang vs DC slang vs LA slang, etc).

agreed to all of this, and "good" in this case is highly subjective + contextual

edited to add: subjective + contextual just like language itself, am i right????

[Leliana]

Yeah. I think AAVE is an important part of culture (more for some AAs than others, but still). I think it's a way to help AAs bond/make them feel like there's something that's more exclusive to them. Whether or not it's good, who knows. But I think that, within the community, it carries its own value - especially when you get into vernacular that differs depending on location (aka NYC slang vs DC slang vs LA slang, etc).

Yeah, I agree! I also think some of the annoyance or confusion with terms like "yasss" or "slay" comes from the... loss of nuance? for lack of a better term - that happens when they get adopted into mainstream slang and the AAVE origin is lost.

edited to add: subjective + contextual just like language itself, am i right????

If there's one thing to take away from studying language, it's this.

[brinicolec]

Can't really get into it since I'm at work and can't type long blocks of text, but I generally agree with your posts. Also, if this is the TLS rant hour, just wanted to say that I fucking hate "YASSS" and "Slay" and all those words that usually find their way back to Beyoncé for some reason. Maybe random but whatever lol.

Okay, y'all clearly just haven't had friends that hype you up/hyped up your friends enough because those two words are essential to the "GLO SIS" package.

I can't see myself getting hyped from my friends yelling "YAS!" Lol. It's just played out to me. It's like (forgive the reference while I also have an avi of it) in HIMYM when Lilly said "son of a bitch" and pronounced it "beesh". It was somewhat funny the first time, but when it became a thing it was lame. That's how I see "yas" and "slay" lol.

ETA: this is just my personal opinion/dislike and I acknowledge ppl's differing views on and rights to use these phrases.

Edit: what's GLO SIS?

Lol, like the glo up? No? Not a thing?

Also, I think it's different for me because I'm black so when things go mainstream I'm kinda like, "Okay, but who did it first (and better)?!?!?!?"

[Kopetz]

Anyone else sick to death of Koine? All these Alexandrian youths calling the sea "Thalassa" and refusing to use the dual form. It's unseemly!

[Sarastro]

Haha as a descriptive grammarian going to law school, I say "blah blah natural evolution of language blah blah this has all happened before blah blah measure what is not what you think language should be blah"

Oh god. I hope to god we aren't in the same conlaw class. You gave me hives just now.

I'll just tuck in real quick to say one can simultaneously believe that language can, will, and should change while also believing that you shouldn't apply or look for those changes retroactively.

[Pozzo]

Anyone else sick to death of Koine? All these Alexandrian youths calling the sea "Thalassa" and refusing to use the dual form. It's unseemly!

Literally gelao-ing out loud.

[Mr_Chukes]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

[brinicolec]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

[Leliana]

Anyone else sick to death of Koine? All these Alexandrian youths calling the sea "Thalassa" and refusing to use the dual form. It's unseemly!

Don't get me started on all these kids today using plural pronouns to refer to a single person Use "thou" like a real English speaker!

[Mr_Chukes]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

[jstans]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

That video had Tyler, the Creator interviewing Seth Rogen in the suggested videos, so safe to say I didn't stay on the Berk video long.

[brinicolec]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

Lol did you watch all of them?!?

They're pretty long, which is nice when I'm willing to sit through everything (I'm usually not so I skip around lol)

[Mr_Chukes]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

That video had Tyler, the Creator interviewing Seth Rogen in the suggested videos, so safe to say I didn't stay on the Berk video long.

Youtube has been trying to push that video on me lol

[Mr_Chukes]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

Lol did you watch all of them?!?

They're pretty long, which is nice when I'm willing to sit through everything (I'm usually not so I skip around lol)

I've watched all of the ones on the top 14 schools, UCLA, and USC lol.

[nimbus cloud]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

I am pretty sure they were actually made in 2005. How do I know? I looked up on the of people on LinkedIn and it said they graduated in 2005.

[brinicolec]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

I am pretty sure they were actually made in 2005. How do I know? I looked up on the of people on LinkedIn and it said they graduated in 2005.

Lol, okay so I'm not trippin'. Good to know. When did YT become a thing? Trying to figure out why they'd wait to post those videos until 2013 lol

[NotAGolfer]

There's a recent episode of Hidden Brain on the evolution of language I'd recommend: http://www.npr.org/2017/01/10/509035454 ... -literally

I think the bigger issue is that there's often little recognition/appreciation for the cultures from which language/slang is adopted (for example, I believe YAASS and slay were both originally popularized in drag queen culture). I don't think there's inherently an issue with the evolution of language through cultural exchange, but language appropriation has the same issues as other forms of cultural appropriation.

[Mr_Chukes]

Anyone else on here watch these videos about schools or am I alone lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE&t=7s

I think I have. That narrator's voice sounds familiar. I don't think it was intentional (like I was looking for that channel specifically), I think I was just looking for any videos on schools lol

It's weird because they're only like 4 years old but everything just seems so much older (fashion, for one lol).

Yeah everything does. Plus the camera makes it look like a 2004 music video lol. Yeah I was searching for videos on schools and these came up. I think my favorites he did was the Stanford one lol.

I am pretty sure they were actually made in 2005. How do I know? I looked up on the of people on LinkedIn and it said they graduated in 2005.

Lol, okay so I'm not trippin'. Good to know. When did YT become a thing? Trying to figure out why they'd wait to post those videos until 2013 lol

Wow that's amazing lol. That means I was spot on with 2004 lmao

[nimbus cloud]

Lol, okay so I'm not trippin'. Good to know. When did YT become a thing? Trying to figure out why they'd wait to post those videos until 2013 lol

Also explains why they're all so chill, rarely talk about job prospects. Because they are still living in the pre-2008 world.

Youtube was around when the videos were made (albeit much smaller), but I am not sure why they didn't upload them until 2013.

[Kopetz]

speaking of slaying: the student from that Berkeley video who transferred to Boalt from Golden Gate

[brinicolec]

There's a recent episode of Hidden Brain on the evolution of language I'd recommend: http://www.npr.org/2017/01/10/509035454 ... -literally

I think the bigger issue is that there's often little recognition/appreciation for the cultures from which language/slang is adopted (for example, I believe YAASS and slay were both originally popularized in drag queen culture). I don't think there's inherently an issue with the evolution of language through cultural exchange, but language appropriation has the same issues as other forms of cultural appropriation.

That's very true. I mean, it's kind of like the classic *cringe* when someone uses slang improperly because they're not familiar with what it means but they want to use it anyway.

[brinicolec]

speaking of slaying: the student from that Berkeley video who transferred to Boalt from Golden Gate

It was a simpler time. But also, either way, super impressive lol

[Mr_Chukes]

speaking of slaying: the student from that Berkeley video who transferred to Boalt from Golden Gate

I was like how in the hell is that possible lol. She went to Cornell undergrad or am i wrong?