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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by ddoomm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:04 pm

kwabedi wrote:After visiting both schools in two days I have decided on Carlisle! See you guys in the fall!
Good stuff! See you on August 15th!

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:24 pm

ddoomm wrote:
kwabedi wrote:After visiting both schools in two days I have decided on Carlisle! See you guys in the fall!
Good stuff! See you on August 15th!
Also thanks for all the advice. After visiting both schools I know exactly why everyone feels the way they do about the two schools. Dickinson is definitely the better of the two schools on all levels!

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:42 pm

Also, is there a Facebook group for the incoming Dickinson class?

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by ddoomm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:38 pm

kwabedi wrote:Also, is there a Facebook group for the incoming Dickinson class?
Yessir! I am a member of it and it falls under "Dickinson Law Class of 2019 (it is a closed group but you should be readily accepted).

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:03 am

ddoomm wrote:
kwabedi wrote:Also, is there a Facebook group for the incoming Dickinson class?
Yessir! I am a member of it and it falls under "Dickinson Law Class of 2019 (it is a closed group but you should be readily accepted).
Awesome, thanks! I will be joining.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:18 pm

Both schools have now released their "separate" 2015 employment data and they are pretty comparable.

Dickinson edges UP out in FTLT bar passage required jobs, but that most likely has to do with the small class size.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by jrass » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:37 pm

According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:39 pm

jrass wrote:According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.
Edit: Trolling at its finest...

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by ddoomm » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:30 pm

jrass wrote:According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.
YES! I like your wording! The "surviving school" makes it sound like some sort of final boss battle, only one will leave the room alive :D

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by texasborn10 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:31 pm

jrass wrote:According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.
Wait, what? You're joking, right?

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:01 am

texasborn10 wrote:
jrass wrote:According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.
Wait, what? You're joking, right?
Yeah, I fell for it for a split second before I realized that this is some major trolling....

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by yenisey » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:50 am

jrass wrote:According to their latest quarterly statement, the two law schools are going to merge into one with the surviving school being determined on or before August 3rd. It really doesn't matter which one you pick, because on August 3rd they'll be the same school.
What a joke! Merging into one after a mere one year's splitting into two accredited schools? :roll:

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by KingMob » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:00 pm

Long time lurker of this fora. I was accepted to both schools, but chose Dickinson law!

do you guys know what you are doing for housing or when you plan on looking for housing?

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by yenisey » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:12 am

adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:Who do you email about negotiations? I want to see if they'll match my UP offer before I go to visit in two weeks.
I emailed Bekah Saidman-Krauss
Assistant Dean for Admissions & Financial Aid
ras1075@psu.edu
Awesome, thanks. Do you think they'll be inclined to match the UP offer? It was about 6k less[/quote
My guess is yes. It depends how many people accept/decline their offers I think. They will get back to you pretty quickly.
Withdrew 4.15, chucking out $40K/yr. Hope help someone here out.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:19 am

yenisey wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:Who do you email about negotiations? I want to see if they'll match my UP offer before I go to visit in two weeks.
I emailed Bekah Saidman-Krauss
Assistant Dean for Admissions & Financial Aid
ras1075@psu.edu
Awesome, thanks. Do you think they'll be inclined to match the UP offer? It was about 6k less[/quote
My guess is yes. It depends how many people accept/decline their offers I think. They will get back to you pretty quickly.
Withdrew 4.15, chucking out $40K/yr. Hope help someone here out.
Already negotiated from 34k to a full scholarship so I think theres still money

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by yenisey » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:22 am

kwabedi wrote:
yenisey wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:Who do you email about negotiations? I want to see if they'll match my UP offer before I go to visit in two weeks.
I emailed Bekah Saidman-Krauss
Assistant Dean for Admissions & Financial Aid
ras1075@psu.edu
Awesome, thanks. Do you think they'll be inclined to match the UP offer? It was about 6k less[/quote
My guess is yes. It depends how many people accept/decline their offers I think. They will get back to you pretty quickly.
Withdrew 4.15, chucking out $40K/yr. Hope help someone here out.
Already negotiated from 34k to a full scholarship so I think theres still money
How did you accomplish it? My initial grant is $40K and I do not negotiate it.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:25 am

yenisey wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
yenisey wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
adj8103 wrote:
kwabedi wrote:Who do you email about negotiations? I want to see if they'll match my UP offer before I go to visit in two weeks.
I emailed Bekah Saidman-Krauss
Assistant Dean for Admissions & Financial Aid
ras1075@psu.edu
Awesome, thanks. Do you think they'll be inclined to match the UP offer? It was about 6k less[/quote
My guess is yes. It depends how many people accept/decline their offers I think. They will get back to you pretty quickly.
Withdrew 4.15, chucking out $40K/yr. Hope help someone here out.
Already negotiated from 34k to a full scholarship so I think theres still money
How did you accomplish it? My initial grant is $40K and I do not negotiate it.
I had a bigger offer from Penn State Law and wrote them a negotiation letter. I used the forum in here on negotiations for advice on how to drafts the letter.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by LancesGoodNut12 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:23 pm

over the last few weeks, I was able to negotiate up from $25,000/year to a full ride (maybe a living stipend as well? apparently I'm a "strong candidate" for one, whatever that means). if anyone out there is wondering whether to give negotiating a shot-- it never hurts to ask.

super excited to be attending Dickinson this fall!

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by DareDreamer23 » Mon May 09, 2016 1:40 am

Does anyone know anything about the waitlist prospects for the University Park campus?

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by ddoomm » Mon May 16, 2016 6:08 pm

DareDreamer23 wrote:Does anyone know anything about the waitlist prospects for the University Park campus?
This may be a bit late, but I'm not sure...any update?

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Mon May 16, 2016 6:54 pm

DareDreamer23 wrote:Does anyone know anything about the waitlist prospects for the University Park campus?
I would really advise against going to Penn State off the waitlist. Unless for some ungodly reason you get A TON of scholarship money off the waitlist.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by DareDreamer23 » Mon May 16, 2016 7:44 pm

Nachoo2019 wrote:
DareDreamer23 wrote:Does anyone know anything about the waitlist prospects for the University Park campus?
I would really advise against going to Penn State off the waitlist. Unless for some ungodly reason you get A TON of scholarship money off the waitlist.
I know its not ranked very high, but I assume the employment prospects for a job in Philly would be good? The alumni network is really good or so I have heard.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by Nachoo2019 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:26 pm

DareDreamer23 wrote:
Nachoo2019 wrote:
DareDreamer23 wrote:Does anyone know anything about the waitlist prospects for the University Park campus?
I would really advise against going to Penn State off the waitlist. Unless for some ungodly reason you get A TON of scholarship money off the waitlist.
I know its not ranked very high, but I assume the employment prospects for a job in Philly would be good? The alumni network is really good or so I have heard.
I am going to assume we are still talking about University Park here. For a relatively new school the UP campus had decent employment statistics. The only problem is that without any scholarship money (which is the most likely situation when accepted off the WL) you will be paying roughly $200,000+ for your degree. This is absolutely not worth it. Not even close.

Also, the UP school has only been its own school for a couple years now so it does not have the strong alumni network that is advertised. 600,000+ undergrad alumni does not translate to legal employment. The reason I chose Dickinson is because after some research/talking to people on this forum/looking at LinkedIn I realized that the alumni in hiring positions were from Dickinson and a lot of them graduated from Dickinson before it was even affiliated with Penn State. This means that Dickinson students may have a small advantage when it comes to alumni.

Lastly, from what I have been seeing, the job prospects in Philly are not "good" from either PSU or Dickinson. Yes, people get jobs in Philly from both schools, but it is not a guarantee by any means. Philly jobs are going to get filled by UPenn----> other T-14 schools------>Temple/Nova----->> Dickinson/Drexel/Penn State UP grads in that order. It is entirely possible, but there will be a ton of competition.


I am an 0L so all of this is what I have gathered from TLS, visiting both schools, and other research. I do not have first hand knowledge... yet.

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Re: Penn State Dickinson and Penn State Law

Post by psu2016 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:49 pm

I do have firsthand knowledge.

The job prospects in Philly from either campus are atrocious, but there may be a tiny advantage to Dickinson over UP because you have a better shot of finding that one alumni in a haystack who might be able and willing to help you.

I personally see absolutely no rational reason ANYONE would choose to go to UP, free or not, but I am admittedly biased.

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