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Re: Ohio State c/o 2019 Applicants

Post by PeterGibbons90 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:17 pm

>However, when you are trying to determine where you will ultimately attend law school, there are other factors you should consider in addition to the cost to you.

This is what they said in the e-mail. It almost seems like they're setting us up for disappointment and a low offer. If that's the case, I have zero interest in attending if their scholarship offer isn't competitive with peer schools. Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions, but based on how they've handled this cycle, I have little reason to be optimistic.

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Post by yenisey » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:53 am

PeterGibbons90 wrote:>However, when you are trying to determine where you will ultimately attend law school, there are other factors you should consider in addition to the cost to you.

This is what they said in the e-mail. It almost seems like they're setting us up for disappointment and a low offer. If that's the case, I have zero interest in attending if their scholarship offer isn't competitive with peer schools. Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions, but based on how they've handled this cycle, I have little reason to be optimistic.
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Post by PSPSPSPS » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:31 am

I just read that scholarship email. It sounds like they are going to low ball us with scholarships. "Assess the resources we have available for scholarships" are they serious? The school has 60,000 students as a whole and thousands of alumni that went to the law school, they have plenty of resources.

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Post by PSPSPSPS » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:32 am

+ not to mention this is the worst admissions process of all the schools I applied to

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Post by GreatBraffsby » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:38 pm

Just got my scholarship offer via email. Lower than I was hoping for. There's also an optional scholarship acceptance form, which basically functions to let OSU know if you are coming or not.

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Post by lawlawlaw22 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:54 pm

GreatBraffsby wrote:Just got my scholarship offer via email. Lower than I was hoping for. There's also an optional scholarship acceptance form, which basically functions to let OSU know if you are coming or not.
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Post by thedon92 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:07 am

Just got the scholly info too. About 13k/year. On their website, they state that anyone out of state can qualify for instate tuition their 2nd and 3rd years. Anyone know how hard this is to do?

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Post by lawlawlaw22 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:19 am

thedon92 wrote:Just got the scholly info too. About 13k/year. On their website, they state that anyone out of state can qualify for instate tuition their 2nd and 3rd years. Anyone know how hard this is to do?
They say that everyone gets it. Apparently it takes very little effort at OSU.

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Post by ouais_ouais » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:25 am

Also 13k a year. Very disappointed and will probably withdraw soon. Farewell Michelle Alexander. :cry:

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Post by ColoBoul » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:28 am

thedon92 wrote:Just got the scholly info too. About 13k/year. On their website, they state that anyone out of state can qualify for instate tuition their 2nd and 3rd years. Anyone know how hard this is to do?
I had friends who went through this process and it is pretty easy. The only mildly difficult requirement is you cannot spend I think ~3 weeks out of the state in the year. There are exceptions for school sponsored summer programs in D.C and Oxford England, but if you take a job back home it could be an issue.

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Post by Tiddlywinks » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:54 am

Just got my scholly offer and its 5k/year less then what I got last year after a 5+ increase in my LSAT. Gonna withdraw... Will cost me less then 10k to attend Michigan over OSU. Super annoyed with OSU, would have liked to attend if the price was right.

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Post by GreatBraffsby » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:21 pm

Tiddlywinks wrote:Just got my scholly offer and its 5k/year less then what I got last year after a 5+ increase in my LSAT. Gonna withdraw... Will cost me less then 10k to attend Michigan over OSU. Super annoyed with OSU, would have liked to attend if the price was right.
Part of me wonders if OSU tied their scholarship budget to returns from the stock market (which would not be good for this cycle). I'm not sure how common this is among law schools, but I would suspect that dividends from major donations can play a role in how much money is in the pot. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has solid information on if this plays a role, either at OSU or in general.

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Post by Tiddlywinks » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:46 pm

GreatBraffsby wrote:
Tiddlywinks wrote:Just got my scholly offer and its 5k/year less then what I got last year after a 5+ increase in my LSAT. Gonna withdraw... Will cost me less then 10k to attend Michigan over OSU. Super annoyed with OSU, would have liked to attend if the price was right.
Part of me wonders if OSU tied their scholarship budget to returns from the stock market (which would not be good for this cycle). I'm not sure how common this is among law schools, but I would suspect that dividends from major donations can play a role in how much money is in the pot. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has solid information on if this plays a role, either at OSU or in general.
Well they have a new financial aid/admissions person so I'm sure that's part of it. Last year I was accepted late Dec and got scholly info early Jan. This year I was accepted late Jan and just got scholly info today. Can't believe they lowballed so hard, and they don't negatiote at all so yeah I'm done.

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Post by lawyer99 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:32 pm

Is anyone sure that they won't negotiate this year? I wonder if it will be different because they have a new Financial Aid person. Also, does anyone know what the stats are for the typical Moritz Merit Scholarship recipient? Thanks

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Post by lawlawlaw22 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:54 pm

lawyer99 wrote:Is anyone sure that they won't negotiate this year? I wonder if it will be different because they have a new Financial Aid person. Also, does anyone know what the stats are for the typical Moritz Merit Scholarship recipient? Thanks
I've heard both sides of that. People who said they successfully negotiated and most who said at ASW they explicitly said they won't. Not sure what to believe. It doesn't make sense that they wouldn't negotiate. You make tons of people offers, and only 20% or so matriculate. Seems like a lot of turned down money to redistribute. I guess they could assume that only a certain percentage will accept, but that seems risky. If you make offers that well exceed your schoalrship budget, and everyone theoretically accepts, you're totally screwed.

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Post by CoachW » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:39 pm

Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.

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Post by GreatBraffsby » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:05 pm

CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I think the standard scholarship is the leadership scholarship. The Moritz Scholarship is an entirely different beast and OSU will start reviewing applicants for that next week, with a rough estimate of mid-March to notify people who didn't get it. The Moritz is pretty competitive and I think they award less than 10 of them per year. I have no idea about public service scholarships.

OSU is probably my top non T-14 choice, but it's amazing to me that Notre Dame and WashU could wind up better bargains for Midwest placement. Proportionally speaking, those schools give much more of a percentage off tuition even with higher medians. Maybe OSU feels confident as the only strong JD program in Ohio and knows that they can fill their class because of it. When Case Western and University of Cincinnati are your next closest competitors in the 7th most populated state, you're sitting pretty.

To get off of the subject of scholarships, does anyone know if OSU's focus on legislation and policy results in good career placement? Just looking at their clinics, programs, institutes, academics, etc., it seems like they really emphasize the relationship between law and government. Is this just a way to attract students, or are they pumping out graduates uniquely prepared to work in state/federal/local government? I don't expect them to be placing many students in DC with the DoJ or the Office of White House Counsel, but with their policy-oriented curricula I have to think the OSU JD might punch above its weight in Ohio, or Midwestern, politics.

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Post by lawyer99 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:26 pm

CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I'm pretty sure you can only get one scholarship... so if you get an Academic Merit scholarship you will not receive any other kind of scholarship (leadership, public service, etc.). If you happen to get another kind please keep us updated.

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Re: Ohio State c/o 2019 Applicants

Post by PeterGibbons90 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:21 pm

yenisey wrote:
PeterGibbons90 wrote:>However, when you are trying to determine where you will ultimately attend law school, there are other factors you should consider in addition to the cost to you.

This is what they said in the e-mail. It almost seems like they're setting us up for disappointment and a low offer. If that's the case, I have zero interest in attending if their scholarship offer isn't competitive with peer schools. Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions, but based on how they've handled this cycle, I have little reason to be optimistic.
You have too much testosterone to dissipate.
lol perhaps. But it looks like my concern was justified. I just received my scholarship offer and it isn't competitive with peer school offers. I'll be interested to see their medians for this cycle.

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Re: Ohio State c/o 2019 Applicants

Post by yenisey » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:30 pm

GreatBraffsby wrote:
CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I think the standard scholarship is the leadership scholarship. The Moritz Scholarship is an entirely different beast and OSU will start reviewing applicants for that next week, with a rough estimate of mid-March to notify people who didn't get it. The Moritz is pretty competitive and I think they award less than 10 of them per year. I have no idea about public service scholarships.

OSU is probably my top non T-14 choice, but it's amazing to me that Notre Dame and WashU could wind up better bargains for Midwest placement. Proportionally speaking, those schools give much more of a percentage off tuition even with higher medians. Maybe OSU feels confident as the only strong JD program in Ohio and knows that they can fill their class because of it. When Case Western and University of Cincinnati are your next closest competitors in the 7th most populated state, you're sitting pretty.

To get off of the subject of scholarships, does anyone know if OSU's focus on legislation and policy results in good career placement? Just looking at their clinics, programs, institutes, academics, etc., it seems like they really emphasize the relationship between law and government. Is this just a way to attract students, or are they pumping out graduates uniquely prepared to work in state/federal/local government? I don't expect them to be placing many students in DC with the DoJ or the Office of White House Counsel, but with their policy-oriented curricula I have to think the OSU JD might punch above its weight in Ohio, or Midwestern, politics.
Why OSU the top non-T14 option? Iowa is much more generous.

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Post by Tiddlywinks » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:47 pm

yenisey wrote:
GreatBraffsby wrote:
CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I think the standard scholarship is the leadership scholarship. The Moritz Scholarship is an entirely different beast and OSU will start reviewing applicants for that next week, with a rough estimate of mid-March to notify people who didn't get it. The Moritz is pretty competitive and I think they award less than 10 of them per year. I have no idea about public service scholarships.

OSU is probably my top non T-14 choice, but it's amazing to me that Notre Dame and WashU could wind up better bargains for Midwest placement. Proportionally speaking, those schools give much more of a percentage off tuition even with higher medians. Maybe OSU feels confident as the only strong JD program in Ohio and knows that they can fill their class because of it. When Case Western and University of Cincinnati are your next closest competitors in the 7th most populated state, you're sitting pretty.

To get off of the subject of scholarships, does anyone know if OSU's focus on legislation and policy results in good career placement? Just looking at their clinics, programs, institutes, academics, etc., it seems like they really emphasize the relationship between law and government. Is this just a way to attract students, or are they pumping out graduates uniquely prepared to work in state/federal/local government? I don't expect them to be placing many students in DC with the DoJ or the Office of White House Counsel, but with their policy-oriented curricula I have to think the OSU JD might punch above its weight in Ohio, or Midwestern, politics.
Why OSU the top non-T14 option? Iowa is much more generous.
Once you get past the top 14 schools, they're regional. And by regional, that almost means exclusively the state it's located in. People in Ohio won't value a Iowa/Minnesota degree as much as an OSU one even though they're higher in rankings. The only school that might have decent reach is Notre Dame since it's, well different. OSU being stingy cus sucks if you wanna stay in Ohio since the other Midwestern schools actually follow normal scholarship processes

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Post by Mary4404 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:12 pm

lawyer99 wrote:
CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I'm pretty sure you can only get one scholarship... so if you get an Academic Merit scholarship you will not receive any other kind of scholarship (leadership, public service, etc.). If you happen to get another kind please keep us updated.

I haven't received my scholarship award yet, but I did receive an email today about the Academic Merit Scholarship today and they stated that I may receive other scholarships along with the merit scholarship if chosen.

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Post by sjp200 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:38 pm

I got less from mortiz than anywhere else. 13k a year is laughable considering I got 25 from ND before I appeal it

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Post by lawyer99 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:10 am

Mary4404 wrote:
lawyer99 wrote:
CoachW wrote:Would anyone happen to know if the decisions on the other scholarships (leadership, public service) would be coming in a separate email? Just wondering because I have received much better offers from T20 schools, and as much as I would really like to go to OSU their offer is slightly insulting.
I'm pretty sure you can only get one scholarship... so if you get an Academic Merit scholarship you will not receive any other kind of scholarship (leadership, public service, etc.). If you happen to get another kind please keep us updated.

I haven't received my scholarship award yet, but I did receive an email today about the Academic Merit Scholarship today and they stated that I may receive other scholarships along with the merit scholarship if chosen.
I think you're confusing Academic Merit scholarships with the Moritz Merit Scholarship. I received an Academic Merit Scholarship and in the email it says it does not preclude me from the Moritz Merit Scholarship. That means that there is still a possibility I could receive the Moritz Merit Scholarship if I get chosen for one... but then I wouldn't get to have both because the Moritz Merit is a full ride.

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Post by thriller1122 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:54 am

16k a year w/ req 2.0... not bad, hopefully it can also be used as a stipend becuase of my GI bill

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