University of Washington School of Law c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[rachellewrx]

@pacnw1234

Due to a number of circumstances and conversations with Dean Le, the information leads me to believe that most initial offers this year went to the LSAT+GPA >75% folks. A vast majority of admissions to UW do not include much in merit aid, so $0 is pretty much the norm before April 15. The intent for this was to weed out those who were only planning to go to Seattle if they received substantial $$$ (which is a fair enough practice as far as I'm concerned). All of us in the $0 desert just have to see what trickles down over the next few weeks. UW tries to make sure that everyone *really* wants to be there. Considering the small class size and tightly-knit nature of the Pacific NW, it's understandable.

A lot of this was covered in the ASD, but it is certainly worth mentioning for those who couldn't make it, too.

I suppose I understand that mentality to a degree, but it still doesn't really seem to make sense if you're essentially weeding out good admits by offering them nothing when they should know they are getting good offers from peer schools. Why not tell your admits that they matter enough to give them some well-earned scholarship money? Instead, they're sending this somewhat pretentious message that if you really want to be at UW, you should give up other offers and hope for the best. Given UW's falling rankings and poor placement outside of the Seattle area, I would think they would instead be trying to entice students who are on the fence.

I moved on because I did have better offers and couldn't roll the dice for a maybe from UW. I hope those of you who did roll the dice win the bet.

I totally agree with OtterLaw here, which is why I moved on as well.

In fact, now that I've withdrawn, I'll just be honest and say it: I'm a bit bitter about the $0 scholarship thing, and I do not appreciate being tested or "weeded" with it.

Good luck to everyone on the WL.

[forlornhope]

When I say middle of the road, I mean UW's middle of road, which is relatively high for most law schools.

Heh. I think we're just saying the same thing in two different ways. In any case, I'll be glad to stop the speculations and just get on with all this. Best of luck to all of us. Big money on Monday, right?

[Slipinandslidin]

@pacnw1234

Due to a number of circumstances and conversations with Dean Le, the information leads me to believe that most initial offers this year went to the LSAT+GPA >75% folks. A vast majority of admissions to UW do not include much in merit aid, so $0 is pretty much the norm before April 15. The intent for this was to weed out those who were only planning to go to Seattle if they received substantial $$$ (which is a fair enough practice as far as I'm concerned). All of us in the $0 desert just have to see what trickles down over the next few weeks. UW tries to make sure that everyone *really* wants to be there. Considering the small class size and tightly-knit nature of the Pacific NW, it's understandable.

A lot of this was covered in the ASD, but it is certainly worth mentioning for those who couldn't make it, too.

I suppose I understand that mentality to a degree, but it still doesn't really seem to make sense if you're essentially weeding out good admits by offering them nothing when they should know they are getting good offers from peer schools. Why not tell your admits that they matter enough to give them some well-earned scholarship money? Instead, they're sending this somewhat pretentious message that if you really want to be at UW, you should give up other offers and hope for the best. Given UW's falling rankings and poor placement outside of the Seattle area, I would think they would instead be trying to entice students who are on the fence.

I moved on because I did have better offers and couldn't roll the dice for a maybe from UW. I hope those of you who did roll the dice win the bet.

I totally agree with OtterLaw here, which is why I moved on as well.

In fact, now that I've withdrawn, I'll just be honest and say it: I'm a bit bitter about the $0 scholarship thing, and I do not appreciate being tested or "weeded" with it.

Good luck to everyone on the WL.

A "good admit" isn't just about the numbers. But law schools are having to use this bogus shortcut definition of a good admit because part of how US News & World Report ranks law schools is based on the applicants' numbers. USNWR rankings can make or break a law school for all the wrong reasons. USNWR has no real expertise in judging law schools or applicants. It would be awesome if UW is starting to buck this silly tradition.

[mcmand]

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[OtterLaw]

Well, you can call me a "good" admit or a "bad" one based one whatever criteria you seem to be using as establishment, but if I can go to UVA at a similar price as UW (because I was unworthy of scholarship at UW) then you best believe I'm picking UVA. Seriously though, best of luck to those of you who roll the dice hoping for some money after they're done handing it out to their "best" applicants.

[forlornhope]

@OtterLaw:

Hah, why the profile name change?

UVA is an excellent choice regardless of your situation, so I am sure things will go well for you. I think at UW the low cost plus the huge difference in in-state/out-of-state tuition plays a big role in a lot of applicants' decisions. I do feel a little bad for non-residents who don't receive any aid, though. If it weren't for residency, my decision would certainly have been much more difficult.

[OtterLaw]

@OtterLaw:

Hah, why the profile name change?

UVA is an excellent choice regardless of your situation, so I am sure things will go well for you. I think at UW the low cost plus the huge difference in in-state/out-of-state tuition plays a big role in a lot of applicants' decisions. I do feel a little bad for non-residents who don't receive any aid, though. If it weren't for residency, my decision would certainly have been much more difficult.

Haha, because my old one made me too easily identifiable and I hated it.

I really was pretty bummed to get nothing from UW. My husband and I already live here and would have liked to stay, but the cost of living is so high and paying for school would have just added to that. So when the cost was comparable for both schools I had to pick UVA. I'm sure anyone who goes to UW will love it though. I got a great vibe from the school apart from the $ situation.

[pacnw1234]

@OtterLaw:

Hah, why the profile name change?

UVA is an excellent choice regardless of your situation, so I am sure things will go well for you. I think at UW the low cost plus the huge difference in in-state/out-of-state tuition plays a big role in a lot of applicants' decisions. I do feel a little bad for non-residents who don't receive any aid, though. If it weren't for residency, my decision would certainly have been much more difficult.

Haha, because my old one made me too easily identifiable and I hated it.

I really was pretty bummed to get nothing from UW. My husband and I already live here and would have liked to stay, but the cost of living is so high and paying for school would have just added to that. So when the cost was comparable for both schools I had to pick UVA. I'm sure anyone who goes to UW will love it though. I got a great vibe from the school apart from the $ situation.

I am originally from just outside the Charlottesville area and am now living in the PNW and will be attending UW. Congrats on getting into UVA w/$$$. The area is fantastic!

[forlornhope]

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[keezmasterflex]

It's official! I submitted my seat deposit this afternoon!

I look forward to meeting most of you this fall!

[pacnw1234]

It's official! I submitted my seat deposit this afternoon!

I look forward to meeting most of you this fall!

Congratulations!

[keezmasterflex]

It's official! I submitted my seat deposit this afternoon!

I look forward to meeting most of you this fall!

Congratulations!

Thanks!

[pacnw1234]

Just got my round two merit scholly email. There is hope!

[dony_tanza]

Just got my round two merit scholly email. There is hope!

Congrats!

[forlornhope]

Likewise glad that I made the bet.

[robertwabisabi]

I just withdrew from UW and deposited at another school. This should free up a spot and some additional scholarship money for those of you still waiting. This was a very difficult decision, but I feel good about it (for now). Good luck to everyone still on the wait-list and everyone still hoping for additional scholarship funding.

[mcmand]

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[forlornhope]

Likewise glad that I made the bet.

Glad you got some money! So I'll see you in the fall for sure?

Looks like I'll be in Seattle for the long haul, yes!

[mcmand]

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[RacheterRaptor]

I was one of those $0 scholarship folks round 1. I sent an email to Dean Li expressing my desire to go to UW and the fact that, with their tuition and cost of living (I'm out of state), I just couldn't go without any money.

I ended up getting $20,000/year ($60,000 total) scholarship offer a few days before the 15th. While it was a very generous offer, my total out-of-pocket was still higher at UW than other schools. I replied saying as much, but was told that they just can't compete with offers from other schools because they don't have enough money.

I withdrew a few days ago. It was also a difficult decision for me, but UW was still significantly more expensive, to the point that when looking at how much student loan payments after graduation might be, it would have been near unmanageable. So I suppose the moral is don't lose hope if you strike out round one, but also don't bet you'll be able to get anything nearly as good as you could from a peer (or even better) school. I did really want to go to UW, but not that much.

[Slipinandslidin]

I was one of those $0 scholarship folks round 1. I sent an email to Dean Li expressing my desire to go to UW and the fact that, with their tuition and cost of living (I'm out of state), I just couldn't go without any money.

I ended up getting $20,000/year ($60,000 total) scholarship offer a few days before the 15th. While it was a very generous offer, my total out-of-pocket was still higher at UW than other schools. I replied saying as much, but was told that they just can't compete with offers from other schools because they don't have enough money.

I withdrew a few days ago. It was also a difficult decision for me, but UW was still significantly more expensive, to the point that when looking at how much student loan payments after graduation might be, it would have been near unmanageable. So I suppose the moral is don't lose hope if you strike out round one, but also don't bet you'll be able to get anything nearly as good as you could from a peer (or even better) school. I did really want to go to UW, but not that much.

If you're the same "raptor" I'm seeing on LSN, why would you be so serious about UW anyway when you're accepted to UT, Vanderbilt & USC with scholly?

[robertwabisabi]

I just withdrew from UW and deposited at another school. This should free up a spot and some additional scholarship money for those of you still waiting. This was a very difficult decision, but I feel good about it (for now). Good luck to everyone still on the wait-list and everyone still hoping for additional scholarship funding.

You proved my theory wrong!

I really, really wanted to make it work to accept UW's offer and move back to Seattle. A friend of mine texted me a photo of one of my favorite pubs when I told him I might decline. I have ties to the school I chose, though. It has better job placement numbers and offered me more money.

[capricasixx]

Got a WL update email this morning, reiterating that the deposit deadline for admitted students is May 1 and they will begin to contact WL applicants soon after. There was a survey to fill out restating my interest. Did everyone on the WL get this?

[SlithyTove]

Got a WL update email this morning, reiterating that the deposit deadline for admitted students is May 1 and they will begin to contact WL applicants soon after. There was a survey to fill out restating my interest. Did everyone on the WL get this?

I did but I've already accepted elsewhere so I withdrew from the WL via the form.

[mcmand]

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