Transferring Undergraduate School Forum
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Transferring Undergraduate School
I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Also I want to emphasize that I want to practice corporate law in NYC in the future and competition is serious so I need to go to a top tier law school.
Also I want to emphasize that I want to practice corporate law in NYC in the future and competition is serious so I need to go to a top tier law school.
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Re: Transferring Undergraduate School
If you can really and truly nail your LSATs and get a decent GPA, it won't matter very much where you go to school (as long as it's accredited) In the end of the day I don't think there is ever a guarantee that you'd get into Harvard or Stanford no matter the score or background. But if you get north of a 175 and have a 3.8+ GPA, I'd say you have a pretty damn good chance no matter where you are applying. Just focus on the more inexpensive option for undergraduate school and really nail those LSAT scores. You can spend a fraction of the money on LSAT tutoring that you'd spend at an expensive institution and further increase your chances for what you are trying to achieve.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
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Thank you for the advice!doge wrote:If you can really and truly nail your LSATs and get a decent GPA, it won't matter very much where you go to school (as long as it's accredited) In the end of the day I don't think there is ever a guarantee that you'd get into Harvard or Stanford no matter the score or background. But if you get north of a 175 and have a 3.8+ GPA, I'd say you have a pretty damn good chance no matter where you are applying. Just focus on the more inexpensive option for undergraduate school and really nail those LSAT scores. You can spend a fraction of the money on LSAT tutoring that you'd spend at an expensive institution and further increase your chances for what you are trying to achieve.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Do you think FIU is accredited enough? I am also a part of the honors college, I don't know if that makes a difference.
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Echoing doge, shitloads of people at T6 went to TTTT undergrads. All that really matters is LSAT/GPA/URM-status, followed by your softs like especially interesting work/life experience, THEN followed by maybe the tiniest bump based on your undergrad institution.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Also I want to emphasize that I want to practice corporate law in NYC in the future and competition is serious so I need to go to a top tier law school.
If you like FIU, stay there and finish strong. If you don't like the school and think you would really enjoy Miami, then transfer and do well there. Because of the way LSAC GPA is calculated, transferring doesn't really help you or hurt you much unless one school is significantly more difficult than the other.
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phigammlawyer wrote:Thank you for the advice!doge wrote:If you can really and truly nail your LSATs and get a decent GPA, it won't matter very much where you go to school (as long as it's accredited) In the end of the day I don't think there is ever a guarantee that you'd get into Harvard or Stanford no matter the score or background. But if you get north of a 175 and have a 3.8+ GPA, I'd say you have a pretty damn good chance no matter where you are applying. Just focus on the more inexpensive option for undergraduate school and really nail those LSAT scores. You can spend a fraction of the money on LSAT tutoring that you'd spend at an expensive institution and further increase your chances for what you are trying to achieve.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Do you think FIU is accredited enough? I am also a part of the honors college, I don't know if that makes a difference.
When I say accredited I mean that they are officially a college that can dispense a degree

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ymmv wrote:Echoing doge, shitloads of people at T6 went to TTTT undergrads. All that really matters is LSAT/GPA/URM-status, followed by your softs like especially interesting work/life experience, THEN followed by maybe the tiniest bump based on your undergrad institution.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Also I want to emphasize that I want to practice corporate law in NYC in the future and competition is serious so I need to go to a top tier law school.
If you like FIU, stay there and finish strong. If you don't like the school and think you would really enjoy Miami, then transfer and do well there. Because of the way LSAC GPA is calculated, transferring doesn't really help you or hurt you much unless one school is significantly more difficult than the other.
Thank you for the advice! I am brand new to the forum lol what do T6, TTTT, URM, and softs mean?
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T6= Top 6 School
URM= Under Represented Minority
Softs= Soft modifiers to your application, for example your job experience or extracurricular activities. These vary in strength obviously. If you say you work at McDonald's versus that you are an olympic Gold medalist or something.
I don't know what a TTTT is however, someone else can shed light on it I am sure thouhg
URM= Under Represented Minority
Softs= Soft modifiers to your application, for example your job experience or extracurricular activities. These vary in strength obviously. If you say you work at McDonald's versus that you are an olympic Gold medalist or something.
I don't know what a TTTT is however, someone else can shed light on it I am sure thouhg
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A shit school.doge wrote:T6= Top 6 School
URM= Under Represented Minority
Softs= Soft modifiers to your application, for example your job experience or extracurricular activities. These vary in strength obviously. If you say you work at McDonald's versus that you are an olympic Gold medalist or something.
I don't know what a TTTT is however, someone else can shed light on it I am sure thouhg
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ttttitcrdoge wrote:T6= Top 6 School
URM= Under Represented Minority
Softs= Soft modifiers to your application, for example your job experience or extracurricular activities. These vary in strength obviously. If you say you work at McDonald's versus that you are an olympic Gold medalist or something.
I don't know what a TTTT is however, someone else can shed light on it I am sure thouhg
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It's all prestige/rankings silliness. T6 vaguely refers to the highest-ranked six or so schools, though HYS (Harvard Yale Stanford) are often lumped in a "league" of their own. You might hear of other tier lumpings like HYS/CCN/MVP, but all these sorts of things are useless when you consider how poor Michigan's job prospects are compared to those other schools, or how great, e.g., Cornell's job placement is next to much higher ranking T14s. TTT and TTTT variably refer to Third Tier Toilets and below, but even that's not fair given that a full ride at a regional school in Podunksville, Flyoverstate might be a much smarter choice for someone who wants to practice in that region vs. paying sticker at certain T14s.phigammlawyer wrote:ymmv wrote:Echoing doge, shitloads of people at T6 went to TTTT undergrads. All that really matters is LSAT/GPA/URM-status, followed by your softs like especially interesting work/life experience, THEN followed by maybe the tiniest bump based on your undergrad institution.phigammlawyer wrote:I have a dilemma. I currently go to Florida International University as an undergraduate student. However I was planning on transferring schools because I feel that if I stay in FIU I will not get accepted to the top tier law schools. Therefore, I applied to University of Miami and I was granted admission. Is it worth it to spend the money on undergraduate school so I can get into a good law school or does it only depend on LSAT scores and GPA?
Also I want to emphasize that I want to practice corporate law in NYC in the future and competition is serious so I need to go to a top tier law school.
If you like FIU, stay there and finish strong. If you don't like the school and think you would really enjoy Miami, then transfer and do well there. Because of the way LSAC GPA is calculated, transferring doesn't really help you or hurt you much unless one school is significantly more difficult than the other.
Thank you for the advice! I am brand new to the forum lol what do T6, TTTT, URM, and softs mean?
URM = underrepresented minority, and it will vastly increase your chances of acceptance at certain schools.
In the end, job placement and COA (cost of attendance) are really all you should be worried about.
This will help a lot if you hang around: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... reviations
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got into T20 out of Nova Southeastern Undergrad and a 158 lsat. Anything is possible.
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