Tier 4 School or wait? Forum

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.
xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:30 pm

Hello,

So I applied to probably 15 schools. So far, I've received two acceptances. One to Charlotte Law School through their AAMPLE program and to thomas cooley School of Law.

I received so many rejections as a result of my LSAT scores. I took it twice this year and scored a 137 both times and had took a prep class both times (not making excuses but I have always tested low on standardized tests). I'm very determined and will not take no for an answer to law school in general.

I've been reading about thomas cooley School of Law's not so great reputation. Reading about it makes me nervous to attend.

Charlotte School of Law is stating that I would need to complete the AAMPLE program (which is taking two classes and trying to score above the required GPA they state) to be able to attend ACTUAL classes in the Spring. This would set me back a year as I would attend for the Spring and Fall and would hope to transfer to Fordham for Fall 2015. Ultimately, I would like to transfer to Fordham as it is my top choice. This program also is $500 and lasts from the beginning of September to the end of October.

I'm not sure what to do or where to go.

Help please? :D

User avatar
paglababa

Silver
Posts: 888
Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:34 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by paglababa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:32 pm

lolz at the trolling

User avatar
WhiteRabbit

New
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:05 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by WhiteRabbit » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:35 pm

No brainer.

go to Cooley ---> become rich and famous

CTT

Bronze
Posts: 120
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:37 am

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by CTT » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:37 pm

Cooley is a no brainer, literally.

User avatar
bizzybone1313

Silver
Posts: 1001
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:31 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by bizzybone1313 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:41 pm

About how many hours have you studied for the LSAT? How many prep tests have you taken and gone over for both of your sittings? Whatever you do don't enroll in those schools you are currently considering. Those schools will likely ruin your life.

Want to continue reading?

Register now to search topics and post comments!

Absolutely FREE!


xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:42 pm

CTT wrote:Cooley is a no brainer, literally.

But should I attend this school even though its a Tier 4 and has a bad rep? I guess they've been sued by students because they weren't able to transfer.

xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:43 pm

bizzybone1313 wrote:About how many hours have you studied for the LSAT? How many prep tests have you taken and gone over for both of your sittings? Whatever you do don't enroll in those schools you are currently considering. Those schools will likely ruin your life.

I took the Kaplan Online class that met on the weekends from 10-5 on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, I put in about 2-3 hours per night. Are there any prep courses you might recommend?

User avatar
superbloom

Bronze
Posts: 161
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:49 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by superbloom » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:44 pm

You should take no for an answer.

User avatar
bizzybone1313

Silver
Posts: 1001
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:31 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by bizzybone1313 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:48 pm

xstephh34x wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:About how many hours have you studied for the LSAT? How many prep tests have you taken and gone over for both of your sittings? Whatever you do don't enroll in those schools you are currently considering. Those schools will likely ruin your life.

I took the Kaplan Online class that met on the weekends from 10-5 on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, I put in about 2-3 hours per night. Are there any prep courses you might recommend?
Kaplan is horrible. You should burn all of their materials (seriously). I took the Powerscore course. It was worth the money. You should do the following: Powerscore or Manhattan Course + PS or Manhattan prep materials (LG, RC and LR books). It is very important that you are familiar with both company's prep materials, because they approach the different sections in different ways. By reading both companies' materials, you can pick and choose the strategies that work for you. You need to mix and match what works for YOU.

Due to your very low scores, you are probably going to need about 500 hours of prep time to get to a respectable score. If you haven't done 300+ hours of studying, you aren't anywhere close to having studied enough for the test.
Last edited by bizzybone1313 on Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Want to continue reading?

Register for access!

Did I mention it was FREE ?


xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:50 pm

bizzybone1313 wrote:
xstephh34x wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:About how many hours have you studied for the LSAT? How many prep tests have you taken and gone over for both of your sittings? Whatever you do don't enroll in those schools you are currently considering. Those schools will likely ruin your life.

I took the Kaplan Online class that met on the weekends from 10-5 on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, I put in about 2-3 hours per night. Are there any prep courses you might recommend?
Kaplan is horrible. You should burn all of their materials (seriously). I took the Powerscore course. It was worth the money. You should do the following: Powerscore or Manhattan Course + PS or Manhattan prep materials (LG, RC and LR books). Due to your very low scores, you are probably going to need about 500 hours of prep time to get to a respectable score. If you haven't done 300+ hours of studying, you aren't anywhere close to having studied enough for the test.
I definitely agree Kaplan didn't help at all. Before I took the course, I scored a 134 on the diagnostic exam. Should I defer the acceptances and just retry to take the LSAT?

Is it true that you can take the LSAT three times within two years?

User avatar
bizzybone1313

Silver
Posts: 1001
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:31 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by bizzybone1313 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:53 pm

You can take it 3 times within 2 years. You probably shouldn't be looking to retake until like June of next year. You are going to need significant time to learn the LSAT well enough to get a respectable score. At the end of the day, all you can do is try your best and move on with your life. Only you know how hard you have tried for this test. Your goal should be to max out your potential.

CTT

Bronze
Posts: 120
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:37 am

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by CTT » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:53 pm

Cooley because 1 in 4 'aint that bad.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=cooley

Cooley because #2 is pretty dang good.

http://www.cooley.edu/news/2011/020411_ ... hools.html

User avatar
WhiteRabbit

New
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:05 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by WhiteRabbit » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:59 pm

CTT wrote:Cooley because 1 in 4 'aint that bad.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=cooley

Cooley because #2 is pretty dang good.

http://www.cooley.edu/news/2011/020411_ ... hools.html
And Cooley because #1 is, well, the best!

http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/c ... ext=facpub

Register now!

Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.

It's still FREE!


User avatar
Monochromatic Oeuvre

Gold
Posts: 2481
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:33 pm

I've now come across this poster in two threads now. This is a troll, right?

Lloyd Christmas in the middle of a stroke could do better than a 137.

User avatar
t-14orbust

Gold
Posts: 2130
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:43 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by t-14orbust » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:54 pm

There is such a thing as a Tier 4? Isn't it T1=top 50 > T2=top 100 > TTT? Are the schools even ranked beyond 100?

User avatar
Nova

Platinum
Posts: 9102
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by Nova » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:58 pm

I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down

User avatar
t-14orbust

Gold
Posts: 2130
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:43 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by t-14orbust » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down
I know there are that many, but are they ranked as such? As in, could you point out the 158th top school? lol
Last edited by t-14orbust on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Get unlimited access to all forums and topics

Register now!

I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...


xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down

I am being completely serious. Why does no one believe me?

User avatar
t-14orbust

Gold
Posts: 2130
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:43 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by t-14orbust » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:00 pm

xstephh34x wrote:
Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down

I am being completely serious. Why does no one believe me?
Because they can't believe someone would either be so stupid or so ill-informed that this question would even need to be asked.

edit: PS the Cooley rankings are not TCR

User avatar
Nova

Platinum
Posts: 9102
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by Nova » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:04 pm

t-14orbust wrote:
Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down
I know there are that many, but are they ranked as such? As in, could you point out the 158th top school? lol
They rank top 150. The three Minnesota ttts are always battling it out for third tier supremacy

xstephh34x

New
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by xstephh34x » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:08 pm

t-14orbust wrote:
xstephh34x wrote:
Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down

I am being completely serious. Why does no one believe me?
Because they can't believe someone would either be so stupid or so ill-informed that this question would even need to be asked.

edit: PS the Cooley rankings are not TCR

Rude. I'm trying to get into law school. No need to name call here.

Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.

Register now, it's still FREE!


hephaestus

Gold
Posts: 2399
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by hephaestus » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:10 pm

paglababa wrote:lolz at the trolling

User avatar
bizzybone1313

Silver
Posts: 1001
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:31 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by bizzybone1313 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:17 pm

xstephh34x wrote:
t-14orbust wrote:
xstephh34x wrote:
Nova wrote:I don't know if your being serious, but there are a little over 200 accredited law schools I think.


At least 60% of law schools should shut down

I am being completely serious. Why does no one believe me?
Because they can't believe someone would either be so stupid or so ill-informed that this question would even need to be asked.

edit: PS the Cooley rankings are not TCR

Rude. I'm trying to get into law school. No need to name call here.
Basically, these peeps think you are "trolling" them due to you asking if you should attend one of the worst law schools in the country. Obviously these schools exist because they do, in fact, get hundreds of people to enroll at them every year. I don't think you are a troll. Spend some time at http://www.lawschooltransparency.com and then come back to TLS with additional questions. At the end of the day, the vast majority of law schools aren't worth attending.

User avatar
Monochromatic Oeuvre

Gold
Posts: 2481
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:25 pm

I still believe this to be a troll.

If you really did get a 137, and did not suffer an aneurysm in the middle of both exams, don't go to law school. You should probably consider a helmet and crayons instead.

Also, there are great opportunities for people with your intellectual capabilities to be congresswomen from Minnesota.

User avatar
romothesavior

Diamond
Posts: 14692
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: Tier 4 School or wait?

Post by romothesavior » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:33 pm

1. Derailing a thread by calling someone a troll/flame for seeking out legitimate advice will get you a timeout. Nothing in the OP really screams troll to me.
2. A post being "rude" is not a reason to report a post.

Thanks,
The Management

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!


Post Reply

Return to “Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists”