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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by SteelPenguin » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:32 pm

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dirtrida2 wrote:
illiniguy1551 wrote:
SteelPenguin wrote:I was WL a couple of weeks ago and haven't sent in a LOCI, but I just received an e-mail asking if I am interested in attending, because there will likely be a few spots available. Did anyone else get this?
Just got this as well.
Numbers anyone? PM?
165/3.79

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by bean412 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:46 pm

I was also WL'd a few weeks ago, but sent an LOCI and had an individual visit. I wonder if this is for everyone WL'd or just those who haven't sent anything or visited?

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by dirtrida2 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:46 pm

bean412 wrote:I was also WL'd a few weeks ago, but sent an LOCI and had an individual visit. I wonder if this is for everyone WL'd or just those who haven't sent anything or visited?

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by InBetweenDays » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:47 pm

bean412 wrote:I was also WL'd a few weeks ago, but sent an LOCI and had an individual visit. I wonder if this is for everyone WL'd or just those who haven't sent anything or visited?

I didn't receive an email. I was WL'd a few weeks ago, never sent a LoCI, and I did not visit.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:13 pm

SteelPenguin wrote: 165/3.79
prob yp

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by SteelPenguin » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:58 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:
SteelPenguin wrote: 165/3.79
prob yp
I also didn't apply until February though. I ended up getting one of the mass WL e-mails.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by wannabelawstudent » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:44 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:
SteelPenguin wrote:I was WL a couple of weeks ago and haven't sent in a LOCI, but I just received an e-mail asking if I am interested in attending, because there will likely be a few spots available. Did anyone else get this?
This is good. That means we're not likely to have another 180 student class.
I don't think you'll have a 180 class but I know they took people off the waitlist last year.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:04 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:
SteelPenguin wrote:I was WL a couple of weeks ago and haven't sent in a LOCI, but I just received an e-mail asking if I am interested in attending, because there will likely be a few spots available. Did anyone else get this?
This is good. That means we're not likely to have another 180 student class.
I don't think you'll have a 180 class but I know they took people off the waitlist last year.
Yeah hopefully they're more cautious this round and get a 130 class.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by nbahri05 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:14 am

dirtrida2 wrote:
bean412 wrote:I was also WL'd a few weeks ago, but sent an LOCI and had an individual visit. I wonder if this is for everyone WL'd or just those who haven't sent anything or visited?
I visited the school and interviewed...I thought it went fairly well however I did not receive that particular e-mail. :cry: That concerns me.

They did say during the visit that they had already eliminated people off the WL who they had not heard from. So I am not sure what they are doing right now.

Did anyone who visited the school receive this e-mail?

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by dirtrida2 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:09 am

nbahri05 wrote:
dirtrida2 wrote:
bean412 wrote:I was also WL'd a few weeks ago, but sent an LOCI and had an individual visit. I wonder if this is for everyone WL'd or just those who haven't sent anything or visited?
I visited the school and interviewed...I thought it went fairly well however I did not receive that particular e-mail. :cry: That concerns me.

They did say during the visit that they had already eliminated people off the WL who they had not heard from. So I am not sure what they are doing right now.

Did anyone who visited the school receive this e-mail?

There would be no reason for you to receive this email. They are looking for responses from people they have yet to hear from.

It would be a bad sign if you got this email, not a good one...

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:47 am

So when are people moving in.

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Post by JayJones78 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:49 am

lhanvt13 wrote:So when are people moving in.
if attending I'll prob move 8/1
do you know when does orientation begin?

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:51 am

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lhanvt13 wrote:So when are people moving in.
if attending I'll prob move 8/1
do you know when does orientation begin?
http://law.wlu.edu/calendar/page.asp?pageid=1230

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by JayJones78 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:52 am

lhanvt13 wrote:
JayJones78 wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:So when are people moving in.
if attending I'll prob move 8/1
do you know when does orientation begin?
http://law.wlu.edu/calendar/page.asp?pageid=1230
many thanks

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by wannabelawstudent » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:52 am

Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by InBetweenDays » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:59 am

Just received an email basically saying that I might hear from them in the next two weeks regarding the wait-list. I have not sent a LOCI or anything, but the email only said specifically to contact them if my "arrangements for law school have changed". Should I send a LOCI? Did anyone else receive a similar email? To be clear... it didn't ask if I was still interested (some other wait listed TLSers said they received emails inquiring about their continued interest). Is this good, bad, neutral? Also, the email was full of typos... almost ridiculously so...

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by DoveBodyWash » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:59 am

wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
that is honestly just pathetic.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by InBetweenDays » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:01 pm

cusenation wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
that is honestly just pathetic.
They even had a "teh" in there somewhere lol

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by JayJones78 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:09 pm

InBetweenDays wrote:
cusenation wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
that is honestly just pathetic.
They even had a "teh" in there somewhere lol
Oh my. Dean McShay is prob on a day off!!

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by Xs20 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:14 pm

JayJones78 wrote:
InBetweenDays wrote:
cusenation wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
that is honestly just pathetic.
They even had a "teh" in there somewhere lol
Oh my. Dean McShay is prob on a day off!!
How do you not even take the time to spellcheck the thing, though? That kind of laziness reflects really poorly on a school IMO.

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:37 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
Share the LOL's pm me the email please? ;)

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by wannabelawstudent » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:17 pm

JayJones78 wrote:
InBetweenDays wrote:
cusenation wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Did anyone else get a waitlist update e-mail just now with an absurd amount of typos? 6 in one paragraph alone.
that is honestly just pathetic.
They even had a "teh" in there somewhere lol
Oh my. Dean McShay is prob on a day off!!
I hope not. I would hate it if a school was falsely signing e-mails.

I like how they just sent another typo-free email immediately afterwards. Like "hey, ignore that other one, this one's good"

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by wannabelawstudent » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:36 am

So what do you guys think of the new 3L program? Here's an article about how W&L's placement has dropped since instituting the new program. http://outsidethelawschoolscam.blogspot ... d-lee.html

Another article out this week ranking W&L 135 in terms of placement: http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04 ... .html#more

ETA: third link is apparently blocked here. but look up deceptive clerkship numbers and you should find info about it.
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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by lhanvt13 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:54 pm

wannabelawstudent wrote:So what do you guys think of the new 3L program? Here's an article about how W&L's placement has dropped since instituting the new program. http://outsidethelawschoolscam.blogspot ... d-lee.html

Another article out this week ranking W&L 135 in terms of placement: http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04 ... .html#more

Article on how W&L is gaming the placement numbers: http://T14 Paradise.blogspot.com/2013/04/deceptive-clerkship-placement-figures.html
can you relink the 3rd one I can't seem to open it

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Re: W&L c/o 2016

Post by JMCPopcorn » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:48 pm

I can't link to the third article, but I will try to give its highlights here. It was discussing rankings on clerkships done by US News, which are here: http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/c ... clerkships

W&L came out as #12 in the country in the US News federal clerkship rankings, with Percent of 2011 employed J.D. grads with federal judicial clerkships at 9.7%. W&L also had 10.6% in state/local clerkships using the same formula, but its ranking in that category was not shown as some other schools had numbers in the 30% range such as Seton Hall.

These are US News rankings, not W&L's, so there is no allegation that W&L manipulated any stats here, the article was just quibbling over whether US News should have calculated as percentage of the employed versus the whole class, which is probably a good point. If you use the whole class, the percentages for everyone go down by about a point or two, but the relative rankings don't change much. Someone should redo the rankings for all the schools with that in mind, but I do not think you would see a significant difference. No matter how you slice it, W&L does better than most other schools in federal clerkships.

The third article makes a better point about some of the schools that had particularly large numbers of state and local clerkships, particularly the schools in New Jersey (where there are a lot of traffic court clerkships), but W&L did not figure in the state and local rankings anyway. The more significant clerkships are generally the federal ones, and that is where W&L ranked highly.

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