Yale c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle) Forum

[cookiejar1]

Maybe Yale wasn't big on fashion merchandising.

Well, there goes my application...

[WalkingPlato]

So I'm now working on my "Activities and Work" component of the application and find myself wondering if full-time unpaid internships count as extracurricular activities or employment. I feel like they probably belong in the former category but thought I would ask since when I think of extracurricular I kind of think of Debate Club or something like that, not working full-time. Thanks!

I put my unpaid full-time internship as employment, since it was during the summer and not during the school year. I feel like it's more appropriate under employment if it's full-time and over a vacation.

You might wanna e-mail the admission office and change that. Employment = paid, everything else (volunteering, extracurriculars, etc.) = unpaid. When they see your application, they will, as a lot of people would, assume you got paid for your internship, which you didn't.

[WalkingPlato]

Thanks so much! This is really helpful input. I think I'll put my unpaid internships under employment like carboncopy but it looks like you can't really go wrong.

Employment, n, 1.The condition of having paid work

If you did not get paid, you were not employed... Just to be entirely truthful, mention that it was an unpaid internship.

I don't think that's technically true (at least in terms of U.S. law). According to my work visa, employment counts as any job, paid or unpaid, that you are engaged in for 20+ hours a week. Anyways, just interested in the semantics. I will put "unpaid" next to the unpaid internships on my application if the consensus is that this is the proper way of answering the questions.

Put it under extracurriculars. Putting it under employment implies that you were paid, which is how employment is defined. Or, put it under employment if you want to make them think you were paid. I'd do former, but it's your call.

[chickpea]

Thanks so much! This is really helpful input. I think I'll put my unpaid internships under employment like carboncopy but it looks like you can't really go wrong.

Employment, n, 1.The condition of having paid work

If you did not get paid, you were not employed... Just to be entirely truthful, mention that it was an unpaid internship.

I don't think that's technically true (at least in terms of U.S. law). According to my work visa, employment counts as any job, paid or unpaid, that you are engaged in for 20+ hours a week. Anyways, just interested in the semantics. I will put "unpaid" next to the unpaid internships on my application if the consensus is that this is the proper way of answering the questions.

Put it under extracurriculars. Putting it under employment implies that you were paid, which is how employment is defined. Or, put it under employment if you want to make them think you were paid. I'd do former, but it's your call.

I ended up putting my unpaid full-time internships in category C with a note that they were unpaid. I appreciate all the advice.

[Jcastro1]

Ok, so hypothetical here (could very well be true, I read this off of Asha's blog).

You get put on the WL and then accepted and have 24-48 hours to accept or decline YLS. What would you do?

I bring this up only because I think if I am lucky enough to be admitted, it would be via WL rather than direct

[wert3813]

Ok, so hypothetical here (could very well be true, I read this off of Asha's blog).

You get put on the WL and then accepted and have 24-48 hours to accept or decline YLS. What would you do?

I bring this up only because I think if I am lucky enough to be admitted, it would be via WL rather than direct

Why would you stay on the WL if the answer is no?

[TripTrip]

Ok, so hypothetical here (could very well be true, I read this off of Asha's blog).

You get put on the WL and then accepted and have 24-48 hours to accept or decline YLS. What would you do?

I bring this up only because I think if I am lucky enough to be admitted, it would be via WL rather than direct

Why would you stay on the WL if the answer is no?

+1

You have months to think about that beforehand. It's like knowing that your SO might be proposing in the next few months. If you're not crazy, you should come to a decision before he gets down on one knee.

[ssanonymous]

Has Yale started rejecting applicants yet? Do we know when to expect dings?

[helix23]

Has Yale started rejecting applicants yet? Do we know when to expect dings?

no dings yet on LSN. first batch came first week of February last year.

[ssanonymous]

Has Yale started rejecting applicants yet? Do we know when to expect dings?

no dings yet on LSN. first batch came first week of February last year.

Okay, so we should hear relatively soon. That's a relief... sort of.

[ssanonymous]

12 new admits in like a two day period. They mean business.

[ManOfTheMinute]

12 new admits in like a two day period. They mean business.

Whattt? How has this info not made it to TLS/LSN?

[ssanonymous]

12 new admits in like a two day period. They mean business.

Whattt? How has this info not made it to TLS/LSN?

Hmmm, maybe they're deferrals or something. Honestly, this law school process is bringing out the crazy in me. I think I'll take a break from the YLS FB page.

[vman21]

(o '.')-o

[ssanonymous]

Hmmm, maybe they're deferrals or something. Honestly, this law school process is bringing out the crazy in me. I think I'll take a break from the YLS FB page.

Well as long as you are taking a break, I will pick up the slack.

Lots of new acceptances despite no movement on LSN. I am not super proud of myself for googling some of the people who were accepted...

Haha, ok. We can take turns on the FB Watch. And I bet they're all googlable, right? That's what YLS is looking for.

Btw, I have at least one mutual friend with each of these admitted students. Small world.

[masked kavana]

Did anyone apply for a need-based fee waiver? How long does it take to receive a response?
I mailed in my form about 2 weeks ago and have not received anything in my email about it (denial or approval)

[ssanonymous]

Did anyone apply for a need-based fee waiver? How long does it take to receive a response?
I mailed in my form about 2 weeks ago and have not received anything in my email about it (denial or approval)

They don't send you anything back. You just hit "pay by mail" on the LSAC form, and they'll contact you if they don't approve your fee waiver. No word = you got the fee waiver.

[sinfiery]

They don't send you anything back. You just hit "pay by mail" on the LSAC form, and they'll contact you if they don't approve your fee waiver. No word = you got the fee waiver.

Yay. Applied for fee waiver in November and was probably accepted since I've heard nothing back. Now I just need to get this Y250 done....going on 4 months now... I'm thinking about applying in the last week of February so I can be the last applicant they ding

[ssanonymous]

They don't send you anything back. You just hit "pay by mail" on the LSAC form, and they'll contact you if they don't approve your fee waiver. No word = you got the fee waiver.

Yay. Applied for fee waiver in November and was probably accepted since I've heard nothing back. Now I just need to get this Y250 done....going on 4 months now... I'm thinking about applying in the last week of February so I can be the last applicant they ding

Ah, don't assume a rejection, but your wait time will definitely be better than ours. I applied in Nov hoping I'd get my rejections out of the way, but I'm still waiting on most schools.

Btw, all this stress over the 250 word is making me doubt the quality of my statement.

[sinfiery]

Btw, all this stress over the 250 word is making me doubt the quality of my statement.

Haha, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm just a very good procrastinator and I really took it to heart when Yale told the world applying late really doesn't hurt your application.

[Audeamus]

Btw, all this stress over the 250 word is making me doubt the quality of my statement.

Haha, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm just a very good procrastinator and I really took it to heart when Yale told the world applying late really doesn't hurt your application.

+1

[sabanist]

Btw, all this stress over the 250 word is making me doubt the quality of my statement.

I'm in this boat too. Mine feels like total garbage now that I see people working on theirs for months. Should have tried harder to go the academic route.

[UMich11]

Did anyone apply for a need-based fee waiver? How long does it take to receive a response?
I mailed in my form about 2 weeks ago and have not received anything in my email about it (denial or approval)

I applied for one and then sent in my application, 12/12/12, i received an email 1/2/13 saying i was complete and under review. So i assume if you get the "you're complete" email then they accepted your fee waiver.

Which also makes me wonder. I expressed in an Addendum my financial background but do they take under consideration your fee waiver, similar to URM status? or is that not allowed? I mean, the information is volunteered (and it didn't say one way or another in the fee waiver application) so i would assume they may consider it as a way to diversify their student body. But i'm just curious

[salad456]

Btw, all this stress over the 250 word is making me doubt the quality of my statement.

I'm in this boat too. Mine feels like total garbage now that I see people working on theirs for months. Should have tried harder to go the academic route.

Same! Glad to hear I'm not the only one... I'm too scared to look back and reread mine now, just crossing my fingers it was ok. lol.

[ssanonymous]

Did anyone apply for a need-based fee waiver? How long does it take to receive a response?
I mailed in my form about 2 weeks ago and have not received anything in my email about it (denial or approval)

I applied for one and then sent in my application, 12/12/12, i received an email 1/2/13 saying i was complete and under review. So i assume if you get the "you're complete" email then they accepted your fee waiver.

Which also makes me wonder. I expressed in an Addendum my financial background but do they take under consideration your fee waiver, similar to URM status? or is that not allowed? I mean, the information is volunteered (and it didn't say one way or another in the fee waiver application) so i would assume they may consider it as a way to diversify their student body. But i'm just curious

It's not the same as URMs because "low income" isn't a reportable stat. That being said, I'm sure YLS does what it can to make sure there's a fair amount of socioeconomic diversity at the school. However, I don't think the fee waiver itself means anything. If it's in your statements, they'll take that into account. I know plenty of low-income applicants who didn't bother with fee waivers because they didn't want to deal with the hassle. Plus we don't know if the files are marked with "FEE WAIVER" on them or not.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by an addendum on your financial background? Do you mean like a diversity statement?