Oh wow good point. I didn't even think of that outing yourself as being on tlswert3813 wrote:Due to deposit deadlines I really need to know my decision. Remember to someone not on TLS there is no reason to know that DLS does not equal admit.switchis32 wrote:Hey I know this is a stupid or trivial question, but being that it says decision letter sent, what do you actually say if you call to get your decision over the phone? (not that I have reached Dsl yet but I was just wondering) I feel like they would just say you will see in your letter. Haha
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What? No I'm just saying for the average person who calls, it's reasonable for admissions to assume they think they might have got admitted and need to know in order to pay a deposit or not.switchis32 wrote:Oh wow good point. I didn't even think of that outing yourself as being on tlswert3813 wrote:Due to deposit deadlines I really need to know my decision. Remember to someone not on TLS there is no reason to know that DLS does not equal admit.switchis32 wrote:Hey I know this is a stupid or trivial question, but being that it says decision letter sent, what do you actually say if you call to get your decision over the phone? (not that I have reached Dsl yet but I was just wondering) I feel like they would just say you will see in your letter. Haha
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With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis
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Yale not done yet.jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis
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Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no wordwert3813 wrote:Yale not done yet.jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis
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Columbia isn't done yet either....or maybe they just hate mejbagelboy wrote:Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no wordwert3813 wrote:Yale not done yet.jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis
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Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prisonHankBashir wrote:Columbia isn't done yet either....or maybe they just hate mejbagelboy wrote:Ahh true some stragglers, my bad. They largely emptied it out tonight and last night tho right? Whereas sls still has a substantial minority with no wordwert3813 wrote:Yale not done yet.jbagelboy wrote:With Yale completing its decisions earlier tonight, Stanford now retains along with Uchi the dubious honor of being the last school to inform its applicants of an initial decision. And they dont even conduct interviews. Bravo mes amis
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Curiosity mainly.ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison
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This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.HankBashir wrote:Curiosity mainly.ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison
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I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.ssanonymous wrote:This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.HankBashir wrote:Curiosity mainly.ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison
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+1.dnptan wrote:I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.ssanonymous wrote:This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.HankBashir wrote:Curiosity mainly.ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison
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Likewise. I withdrew from everywhere except Columbia's waitlist (still thinking about) the moment I got a good aid offer from Berkeley. I understand stringing along law schools in the hopes of getting more money, but HYS are all need based, so keeping a slot at a T-14 is pointless.dnptan wrote:I agree. I am planning on withdrawing from all schools except my backup to open things up for other people. I think that it's selfish to keep slots to yourself for the purpose of your ego. It just goes to show that you still need validation, and that validation is more important to you than the opportunity for other people to excel.ssanonymous wrote:This. Too many applicants do this, and it hurts others in the applicant pool.HankBashir wrote:Curiosity mainly.ssanonymous wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you just withdraw? You got into paradise with good finaid. Columbia is awful with aid and it looks like a prison
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Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.
I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were. Is it a need for validation? Probably. But that can a long way for confidence or motivation when you're coming from a background that doesn't expect you to get into schools like Columbia.
I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were. Is it a need for validation? Probably. But that can a long way for confidence or motivation when you're coming from a background that doesn't expect you to get into schools like Columbia.
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idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.
I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.
Also, many law school deans have posted on their blogs that this practice doesn't make sense and that they're effectively taking a spot away from someone else who REALLY wants to attend. Check out Faye's blog
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Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.ssanonymous wrote:idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.
I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.
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Waitlists are for people who would attend if admitted (pending, of course, finaid decisions). Not for fun.beepboopbeep wrote:Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.ssanonymous wrote:idk, think about SLS right now. They're agonizing about the last slots that they'll give out. Doesn't it seem wrong to stay in the running knowing full well that you won't attend?beepboopbeep wrote:Oh c'mon, enough white-knighting about people not withdrawing. It will not make a difference in the end; either you'll get in off the waitlist or you won't. Schools are going to end up with their class sizes no matter how we scheme. Financial aid will get recycled.
I withdrew my H/Y/Columbia undergrad apps after getting into Chicago EA, and I've regretted it for years - even though I probably would have made the same decision either way, and I don't really regret going to UofC. Sometimes you just want to know exactly where you were wanted and what your various options were.
For me, the biggest problem with doing this is that it's not just a matter of possibly making people wait a bit longer to get off a waitlist: it's really changing people's lives. Over the next few weeks people are going to be making very large deposits and signing housing contracts which can make it very difficult to accept a position off of a waitlist unless you have significant financial resources.
If you are completely sure that you wouldn't attend a school if you were accepted, then, in my opinion, you should withdraw. If there is even the tiniest chance that you would attend, even if only with a sizable scholarship then I would say that you're justified in staying on.
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Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.
Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.
Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.
Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.
Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.
Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.
Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.
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But Hank isn't on the CLS waitlist - he hasn't received a decision at all either way from them. It seems fair that he could at least wait until hearing something before withdrawing.LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Waitlists are for people who would attend if admitted (pending, of course, finaid decisions). Not for fun.beepboopbeep wrote:Isn't that what waitlists are for? Pardon me if I'm being dense here - I just don't see how withdrawing early vs telling them at the deadline would make a difference.
For me, the biggest problem with doing this is that it's not just a matter of possibly making people wait a bit longer to get off a waitlist: it's really changing people's lives. Over the next few weeks people are going to be making very large deposits and signing housing contracts which can make it very difficult to accept a position off of a waitlist unless you have significant financial resources.
If you are completely sure that you wouldn't attend a school if you were accepted, then, in my opinion, you should withdraw. If there is even the tiniest chance that you would attend, even if only with a sizable scholarship then I would say that you're justified in staying on.
Fair point about the effects of staying on a waitlist for too long - thanks for explaining. I withdrew from Michigan/Cornell for that very reason. But I do think there's a difference between withdrawing from a waitlist and withdrawing from a school before getting any decision back.
Not sure if directed toward me or the others, but my comment wasn't meant to say those were your reasons; they were mine for why I regretted my UG withdrawals.HankBashier wrote:Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.
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Justified then...HankBashir wrote:Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.
Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.
Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.
Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.
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Yeah if there's still a chance you're going to attend (A legitimate one, not a "let's keep my options open" one) then it's prudent to stay in the running. Otherwise, I fully support withdrawing to ease the burden on both our fellow 0Ls, and the adcoms.wert3813 wrote:Justified then...HankBashir wrote:Ech. It's not for validation purposes as much as data seeking purposes (there's a dearth of information on URM cycles in general) and keeping my options open. I haven't deposited at SLS yet (only at GULC). I have withdrawn from all the wait lists I'm on sans HLS, and I withdrew from my non-t14 acceptances and I'm about to withdraw from NU.
Thanks for the arm-chair psychology though.
Also, I don't know full well that I won't attend. For undergrad, I got into my dream school EA, and going there was probably the worst decision of my life, so you'll forgive me for being hesitant until I have all my options.
Also, SLS is still going to be 190k+ of debt at graduation and if Columbia or Uchicago would let me in with enough aid, I might go there. I doubt this will happen, but I am curious.
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Is there traditionally a specific day of the week that SLS sends out (what I assume) is the last wave of rejects/wls and perhaps some acceptances? Or are we just all on pins and needles until May 1?
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trying to find consistency from SLS admissions? Cute. Nah, I think we just need to compulsively refresh our status checkers.feelingood wrote:Is there traditionally a specific day of the week that SLS sends out (what I assume) is the last wave of rejects/wls and perhaps some acceptances? Or are we just all on pins and needles until May 1?
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Well, today is the seven-month anniversary since the last movement on my status checker. I know some of you are in the same boat- what should we do to celebrate?!?!? IT'S SO EXCITING!!!
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Drunk dial Fayeyarsten wrote:Well, today is the seven-month anniversary since the last movement on my status checker. I know some of you are in the same boat- what should we do to celebrate?!?!? IT'S SO EXCITING!!!
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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