Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013) Forum

[ManOfTheMinute]

copied and pasted the data from LSN into an excel sheet- then checked for cross-admits manually

Ah, damn it. I guess i'll do that too and play around with the numbers to satisfy my dumb curiosities.

[wert3813]

data dump, using LSN figures from three application cycles (2009-2012):

464 H admits
114 Y admits
182 S admits
Total: 760 offers

CROSS-ADMITS = 166 total (receiving 382 offers)
50 HYS
3 YS, no H
71 HS, no Y
42 HY, no S

50, or 9.2%, of the admits are offered admission to all three.
116, or 21.3%, of the admits are offered admission to two of the schools.
378, or 69.5%, of the admits are offered admission to only one of the schools. (Of these, 301 were offered admission to Harvard, 58 to Stanford and 19 to Yale, according to my calculations.)

20% of Harvard admits get into Yale
26% of Harvard admits gets into Stanford

47% of Yale admits get into Stanford
81% of Yale admits get into Harvard

29% of Stanford admits get into Yale
67% of Stanford admits get into Harvard

WAIT!! You gotta finish it. Where do these people go??? Y, S, or H?

[honeybadger12]

Great work. Hard to believe that only 47% of Yale acceptances get into Stanford I wonder why that is

[cloudatlas]

Relax, the line between being good enough for a JS1 and being good enough for a JS2 is thin. If they didn think you were JS2 worthy, they wouldnt have given you the JS1.

This preeeeetty much amounts to a perfect emotional/mental boost, I'm gonna take your approach and just run with it. Thank you!!

I had a 12-day gap between my JS1 and JS2 (and a wave of JS2s in between) so none of the January JS1s should lose hope yet.

Something of a lurker succumbing to TLS seductiveness.

Checking in. Complete 12/13. JS1 tomorrow.

Flinging self to a sprawl and praying to Zeus for guidance: Commencing.

While I wait for dem thunderbolts.... any last ditch interview gimlets of wisdom to share? I've combed the thread and appreciated all the insight. Panic feeds the need for any further tidbits any of you experienced chaps have to offer.

I know this goes without saying but prepare really excellent questions. I feel like with JS her questions to you are so easy -- as long as you know your own resume/life story -- that one place you can really stand out is having questions that show you have an understanding of law school AND Harvard Law.

Super super helpful, thank you! If you don't mind sharing, what would you consider to be a "really excellent question" that nails the the query-driven demonstration of an understanding of law school in general? Unless it's so obvious that I'm going to slap myself after you answer, in which case, just pre-empt and do it for me.

[bellagio]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

[TripTrip]

data dump, using LSN figures from three application cycles (2009-2012):

464 H admits
114 Y admits
182 S admits
Total: 760 offers

CROSS-ADMITS = 166 total (receiving 382 offers)
50 HYS
3 YS, no H
71 HS, no Y
42 HY, no S

50, or 9.2%, of the admits are offered admission to all three.
116, or 21.3%, of the admits are offered admission to two of the schools.
378, or 69.5%, of the admits are offered admission to only one of the schools. (Of these, 301 were offered admission to Harvard, 58 to Stanford and 19 to Yale, according to my calculations.)

20% of Harvard admits get into Yale
26% of Harvard admits gets into Stanford

47% of Yale admits get into Stanford
81% of Yale admits get into Harvard

29% of Stanford admits get into Yale
67% of Stanford admits get into Harvard

WAIT!! You gotta finish it. Where do these people go??? Y, S, or H?

I don't know about cross admits, but overall 2009-2012:

Yale: 82% of admits matriculated
Stanford: 48% of admits matriculated (not including 2012)
Harvard: 66% of admits matriculated

(That's not LSN data, that's based on the actual data.)

[Spritzpiggy]

In regards to preparing really excellent questions that show how much you know about HLS, I actually took the opposite approach. I didn't ask questions that at all showed I had any intense knowledge of HLS, but questions I was genuinely interested in knowing the answer to. The interview is the only chance I had to learn more about HLS besides things I could find online (classes, clinics, professors, etc). So I focused on intangible aspects of HLS. JS was there as a student and now an employee, and she has so many experiences there. Who better to talk about the student body or share a favorite memory. So take it as an opportunity to learn from her instead of impress her. The questions are the only part of the interview you control so show your personality. Anyways, thats Just my two cents. (Kinda long, maybe a nickel)

[carboncopyx]

data dump, using LSN figures from three application cycles (2009-2012):

464 H admits
114 Y admits
182 S admits
Total: 760 offers

CROSS-ADMITS = 166 total (receiving 382 offers)
50 HYS
3 YS, no H
71 HS, no Y
42 HY, no S

50, or 9.2%, of the admits are offered admission to all three.
116, or 21.3%, of the admits are offered admission to two of the schools.
378, or 69.5%, of the admits are offered admission to only one of the schools. (Of these, 301 were offered admission to Harvard, 58 to Stanford and 19 to Yale, according to my calculations.)

20% of Harvard admits get into Yale
26% of Harvard admits gets into Stanford

47% of Yale admits get into Stanford
81% of Yale admits get into Harvard

29% of Stanford admits get into Yale
67% of Stanford admits get into Harvard

Wow, thanks for that! I'd be quite all right being any one of them, really, but it'd be interesting to see which school steals from the other school. Maybe if I get bored this weekend, I'll try to figure it out.

[twinkletoes16]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

[digifly]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

Complete end of November. Still hanging on.

[twinkletoes16]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

Complete end of November. Still hanging on.

I think you've got a better shot at me. But what if Stanford knocks at your door?!

[broadstreet11]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

Complete end of November. Still hanging on.

I think you've got a better shot at me. But what if Stanford knocks at your door?!

FRIENDS!!!!

[twinkletoes16]

what the hell, someone make a Forgotten thread. or should we wait til after tomorrow's likely bloodbath?

[ssanonymous]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

Complete end of November. Still hanging on.

+1 but I have no shot whereas you do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but HLS really hasn't rejected that many applicants yet, right? Dings might still be in a queue

[LSP12]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Me, complete mid dec as well

ETA halfway tempted to make a thread but I know as soon as I do ill get my decision which I don't want just yet ):

Complete end of November. Still hanging on.

+1 but I have no shot whereas you do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but HLS really hasn't rejected that many applicants yet, right? Dings might still be in a queue

+1 complete mid November. the extended wait for my expected ding is nerve racking

[ManOfTheMinute]

It seems that I didn't get auto-admitted at berkeley, but rather I'll have to go to faculty review for a chance... think its still possible to get into harvard given this, or is my app a POS?

[shntn]

It seems that I didn't get auto-admitted at berkeley, but rather I'll have to go to faculty review for a chance... think its still possible to get into harvard given this, or is my app a POS?

Not to be a dick, but I fail to see how those are related at all. Berkeley is just weird. And I have no clue about your app, having never seen it, but if you weren't outright dinged, it can't be that bad.

[cloudatlas]

Ugh. Just finished JS1 with KB - she was lovely. I was not.

Blah at best, really didn't feel like I added anything they didn't already know except to further emphasize my manic research of Harvard's program and faculty.

Aaaaand the wait to receive a hold commences...

EDIT: Hold or flat-out ding, let's be real.

[winter.is.coming]

Ugh. Just finished JS1 with KB - she was lovely. I was not.

Blah at best, really didn't feel like I added anything they didn't already know except to further emphasize my manic research of Harvard's program and faculty.

Aaaaand the wait to receive a hold commences...

^^^felt the exact same way after my JS1 w/ KB...got the call about a week later

[cloudatlas]

Ugh. Just finished JS1 with KB - she was lovely. I was not.

Blah at best, really didn't feel like I added anything they didn't already know except to further emphasize my manic research of Harvard's program and faculty.

Aaaaand the wait to receive a hold commences...

^^^felt the exact same way after my JS1 w/ KB...got the call about a week later

Haha I have the intuitive sense that your numbers are significantly higher than mine...

[Yukos]

It seems that I didn't get auto-admitted at berkeley, but rather I'll have to go to faculty review for a chance... think its still possible to get into harvard given this, or is my app a POS?

Not to be a dick, but I fail to see how those are related at all. Berkeley is just weird. And I have no clue about your app, having never seen it, but if you weren't outright dinged, it can't be that bad.

People have been sent to faculty review and still gotten into Stanford and Harvard this cycle. Don't worry about it.

[domino]

Ugh. Just finished JS1 with KB - she was lovely. I was not.

Blah at best, really didn't feel like I added anything they didn't already know except to further emphasize my manic research of Harvard's program and faculty.

I felt the same way--also got the call soon after. I think there are a couple more of us in the thread as well! Take heart, I'm sure you're an interesting person and that shone through (I bet that's one of the most important parts).

[stacy]

So how many of us Forgottens are left? Complete mid-December with nothing.

Complete mid-November, and nothing... At this point I wish they would just let me know they didn't lose my application.

[MAHamlin]

Checking in. 4.04/172 non-traditional student (30+, married with kids). Harvard feels like a long shot, but I couldn't forgive myself for not trying. Does anyone else feel silly when you're discussing law school with people and mention Harvard when asked where you are applying?

Submitted 12/8
Complete 12/20

[Scrambles84]

Checking in. 4.04/172 non-traditional student (30+, married with kids). Harvard feels like a long shot, but I couldn't forgive myself for not trying. Does anyone else feel silly when you're discussing law school with people and mention Harvard when asked where you are applying?

Submitted 12/8
Complete 12/20

I wouldn't feel silly if I had a 4.04 gpa and a 172.