Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013 Forum

[thelaststraw05]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52FLMOPSig

Michigan Law Professor Bridget McCormack cuts an ad with pretty much all of the West Wing cast.

Enjoy.

Helps when mary mccormack is your sister

Yes. As is mentioned in the video.

[alwayssunnyinfl]

Checking in. Just submitted my ED app. Not holding my breath, but fingers crossed!

[shntn]

Checking in. Just submitted my ED app. Not holding my breath, but fingers crossed!

Wow! Congrats, and good luck!

On an unrelated note, I'm enjoying this hefty viewbook Michigan sent me recently. Lots of good stuff!

[yankihote]

Hello all,

I have been a long time visitor to this site, but now that I have submitted all the applications that I intend to, I feel I have the time to start posting as well.

My numbers are: GPA: 3.61, LSAT: 167, 177

I want my cycle to be both proof and hope that softs can tip the scales in your favor when you are a splitter like me. I also believe that schools put the emphasis on the higher score, and hope my cycle goes on to show that as well.

I am applying to: Harvard, NYU, UChi, UMich, and Upenn.

Went a little off-topic. Checking in.

[Dr. Filth]

Checking in. Just submitted my ED app. Not holding my breath, but fingers crossed!

Good luck! I think I'm going to be following you down the rabbit hole once I stop being lazy and write a Why Michigan. Have you applied anywhere else yet?

[MarkKnows87]

Checking in. Good luck to everyone

[sunshinegirl]

Checking in - this is my No. 1 choice.

Is anyone planning to write a supplemental essay other than Why Michigan and/or the DS? I decided to incorporate information about my background and ethnicity into my PS instead of writing a stand-alone DS and am writing the Why Michigan one for sure. What is everyone else doing?

[WhiteyCakes]

Checking in - this is my No. 1 choice.

Is anyone planning to write a supplemental essay other than Why Michigan and/or the DS? I decided to incorporate information about my background and ethnicity into my PS instead of writing a stand-alone DS and am writing the Why Michigan one for sure. What is everyone else doing?

The opposite: "Why Michigan" into my PS and a separate DS on being a parent.

[geary86]

Checking in

[UtilityMonster]

[JohnMarshall17]

Checking in.

[Nickg415]

Just received the information on my out of state interview!! Excited and a little nervous about the interview.

[Yukos]

Just received the information on my out of state interview!! Excited and a little nervous about the interview.

Wait, UM does interviews?

I applied last week but am still anxiously awaiting my status checker. Something tells me I'm gonna be a complete wreck for the months of November, December and January if I'm so nervous about "application under review" emails at this point...

[guinness1547]

I was also unaware there were interviews.

[UnamSanctam]

Pro-tip: leave your status checker alone. For like a month. Maybe limit yourself to checking once a week if you can't do that. Status checkers are bad and they make you feel bad because there's never an update.

[soccer88]

re interviews part of the admissions process? If not, why not?
While evaluative interviews are not a part of our process at Michigan, our admissions counselors are happy to meet with you and answer any questions you may have about the Law School or the admissions process. We also occasionally contact applicants to get clarification about certain elements of an application. We choose not to interview because social science research suggests that interviews offer no information helpful to the decision-making process; further, anecdotal evidence suggest that many fantastic and talented people do not always make a great first impression, particularly if the meeting takes place under the stressful circumstances of an evaluative interview. Interviews also present opportunities for discrimination on the basis of academically irrelevant personal characteristics, which we would prefer to avoid. And, to tell the truth: Dean Zearfoss is a bit of a control freak and doesn't like the idea of delegating the interviews.

It is worth noting that schools that do employ interviews typically do so not because it enhances their selection of candidates, but because it enhances their ability to select people who are committed to attending the institution. In other words, they believe that if you are willing to attend an interview, you are much more likely to attend the school if you are admitted.

[Rahviveh]

re interviews part of the admissions process? If not, why not?
While evaluative interviews are not a part of our process at Michigan, our admissions counselors are happy to meet with you and answer any questions you may have about the Law School or the admissions process. We also occasionally contact applicants to get clarification about certain elements of an application. We choose not to interview because social science research suggests that interviews offer no information helpful to the decision-making process; further, anecdotal evidence suggest that many fantastic and talented people do not always make a great first impression, particularly if the meeting takes place under the stressful circumstances of an evaluative interview. Interviews also present opportunities for discrimination on the basis of academically irrelevant personal characteristics, which we would prefer to avoid. And, to tell the truth: Dean Zearfoss is a bit of a control freak and doesn't like the idea of delegating the interviews.

It is worth noting that schools that do employ interviews typically do so not because it enhances their selection of candidates, but because it enhances their ability to select people who are committed to attending the institution. In other words, they believe that if you are willing to attend an interview, you are much more likely to attend the school if you are admitted.

The bolded is very interesting IMO

[Yukos]

Pro-tip: leave your status checker alone. For like a month. Maybe limit yourself to checking once a week if you can't do that. Status checkers are bad and they make you feel bad because there's never an update.

Awesome avatar.

[Crowing]

Finally complete. Now time to try to ignore the status checker for like two months.

[shifty_eyed]

re interviews part of the admissions process? If not, why not?
While evaluative interviews are not a part of our process at Michigan, our admissions counselors are happy to meet with you and answer any questions you may have about the Law School or the admissions process. We also occasionally contact applicants to get clarification about certain elements of an application. We choose not to interview because social science research suggests that interviews offer no information helpful to the decision-making process; further, anecdotal evidence suggest that many fantastic and talented people do not always make a great first impression, particularly if the meeting takes place under the stressful circumstances of an evaluative interview. Interviews also present opportunities for discrimination on the basis of academically irrelevant personal characteristics, which we would prefer to avoid. And, to tell the truth: Dean Zearfoss is a bit of a control freak and doesn't like the idea of delegating the interviews.

It is worth noting that schools that do employ interviews typically do so not because it enhances their selection of candidates, but because it enhances their ability to select people who are committed to attending the institution. In other words, they believe that if you are willing to attend an interview, you are much more likely to attend the school if you are admitted.

The bolded is very interesting IMO

I don't agree with it, and I think it sounds smarmy.

[alwayssunnyinfl]

I don't agree with it, and I think it sounds smarmy.

+1

Why wouldn't you want to meet someone face-to-face if you're peddling a "holistic approach" to admissions?

[UnamSanctam]

re interviews part of the admissions process? If not, why not?
While evaluative interviews are not a part of our process at Michigan, our admissions counselors are happy to meet with you and answer any questions you may have about the Law School or the admissions process. We also occasionally contact applicants to get clarification about certain elements of an application. We choose not to interview because social science research suggests that interviews offer no information helpful to the decision-making process; further, anecdotal evidence suggest that many fantastic and talented people do not always make a great first impression, particularly if the meeting takes place under the stressful circumstances of an evaluative interview. Interviews also present opportunities for discrimination on the basis of academically irrelevant personal characteristics, which we would prefer to avoid. And, to tell the truth: Dean Zearfoss is a bit of a control freak and doesn't like the idea of delegating the interviews.

It is worth noting that schools that do employ interviews typically do so not because it enhances their selection of candidates, but because it enhances their ability to select people who are committed to attending the institution. In other words, they believe that if you are willing to attend an interview, you are much more likely to attend the school if you are admitted.

The bolded is very interesting IMO

I don't agree with it, and I think it sounds smarmy.

All it's really saying is that schools who interview consider applicants who forego an interview to be an autoding.

[alwayssunnyinfl]

All it's really saying is that schools who interview consider applicants who forego an interview to be an autoding.

At least to me, it came across more as saying that schools that interview do so because they are inferior to other schools, and the interview process is basically a way of enhancing yield protection for schools that don't have elite status.

[shifty_eyed]

All it's really saying is that schools who interview consider applicants who forego an interview to be an autoding.

At least to me, it came across more as saying that schools that interview do so because they are inferior to other schools, and the interview process is basically a way of enhancing yield protection for schools that don't have elite status.

Exactly. Michigan tries to act like it's "above" yield protection with this and Dean Z's reported disdain for ED, but they still have an ED option and ask for supplemental essays (Why Michigan?), which seems to prove otherwise.

[Yukos]

All it's really saying is that schools who interview consider applicants who forego an interview to be an autoding.

At least to me, it came across more as saying that schools that interview do so because they are inferior to other schools, and the interview process is basically a way of enhancing yield protection for schools that don't have elite status.

Exactly. Michigan tries to act like it's "above" yield protection with this and Dean Z's reported disdain for ED, but they still have an ED option and ask for supplemental essays (Why Michigan?), which seems to prove otherwise.

They're the worst YP offenders (with the possible exception of UVA, depending on whether you consider their ED-or-nothing strategy to be a form of YP): http://myLSN.info/n0jabs

Harvard 69%
NYU 97%
UM 63%

With everyone not accepted at UM being wait-listed. That's the most obvious YP possible, unless you think UM is really more selective than Harvard...