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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by GTSkillz » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:41 pm

Pretty good on the PS3. Doubt there is any money for that.
kneedrag wrote:
GTSkillz wrote:Does the ALS or any other GSU scholarships pay for more that tuition and fees?
there is a least one that includes a stipend. Are you looking to get paid to go to school? How good at football are you?

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by GTSkillz » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:42 pm

I was actually interested if any covered room & board even if you have your own housing, so I guess that would be getting paid to go to school.

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Post by kneedrag » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:33 pm

hehe.... yeah, I don't think any also cover R&B, just tuition and fees (afaik).

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Post by Ga0-3L » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:06 am

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GTSkillz wrote:Does the ALS or any other GSU scholarships pay for more that tuition and fees?
you also get a pony
Best.TLS.Quote.Ever.

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by Tyeger87 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:24 am

Got the scholly email this morning

$4,000

to attempt negotiations or not is the question since it is alread so freaking cheap

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Post by Ga0-3L » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:33 am

Got my scholly this morning! But does it negate ALS consideration??

Edit: Just talked to GSU - ALS is separate!!!!
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Post by kroakstool » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:35 am

I hope I get a scholly but I haven't gotten an email yet.

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Post by prettyhorsederpychan » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:40 am

to those who got a scholly, was it through your GSU account or through your contact email account? Thanks!! And congrats of course :). GSU is super cheap already, additional money certainly does not hurt!

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Post by Supurbia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:41 am

kroakstool wrote:I hope I get a scholly but I haven't gotten an email yet.
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Post by Ga0-3L » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:42 am

prettyhorsederpychan wrote:to those who got a scholly, was it through your GSU account or through your contact email account? Thanks!! And congrats of course :). GSU is super cheap already, additional money certainly does not hurt!
It came through my contact email on my resume and law school app- from Denienne Steele.

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by SarahT » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:56 am

No email....BOOOOOOO

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by vbc515 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:43 am

Hey all,

Got my scholarship offer today for $2,500. Now it's that dreaded decision time. I can basically attend UGA or Emory for the same price (I live in ATL currently and don't pay rent here, but I'd have to get a place in Athens), or GSU for half the price of either of those, or Macon for half the price of GSU since I got a full ride and would only have to pay for rent.... ahhhh..... decisions, decisions :(

Any input? Thanks in advance, hope you all have a wonderful day!

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Post by Ga0-3L » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:48 am

vbc515 wrote:Hey all,

Got my scholarship offer today for $2,500. Now it's that dreaded decision time. I can basically attend UGA or Emory for the same price (I live in ATL currently and don't pay rent here, but I'd have to get a place in Athens), or GSU for half the price of either of those, or Macon for half the price of GSU since I got a full ride and would only have to pay for rent.... ahhhh..... decisions, decisions :(

Any input? Thanks in advance, hope you all have a wonderful day!
Guess it depends on your priorities. I was very impressed with Mercer when I visited but job prospects / location really played a part in my decision to withdraw (I was also offered full scholarship).

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by vbc515 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:52 am

Ga0-3L wrote:
vbc515 wrote:Hey all,

Got my scholarship offer today for $2,500. Now it's that dreaded decision time. I can basically attend UGA or Emory for the same price (I live in ATL currently and don't pay rent here, but I'd have to get a place in Athens), or GSU for half the price of either of those, or Macon for half the price of GSU since I got a full ride and would only have to pay for rent.... ahhhh..... decisions, decisions :(

Any input? Thanks in advance, hope you all have a wonderful day!
Guess it depends on your priorities. I was very impressed with Mercer when I visited but job prospects / location really played a part in my decision to withdraw (I was also offered full scholarship).
I want to work in Atlanta Biglaw. I've worked at Alston & Bird and McKenna, Long, & Aldridge, both Atlanta law firms, and from my experience hiring potential between Emory/UGA is pretty much the same, they tend to take out of the top 5-10% of GSU, and really #1 or #2 out of 150 at Mercer.

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by GTSkillz » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:15 pm

Anybody know how PT day and/or PT Day/Evening works? During the day, are you in the same classes as the FTers?

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by Ga0-3L » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:56 pm

vbc515 wrote:
Ga0-3L wrote:
vbc515 wrote:Hey all,

Got my scholarship offer today for $2,500. Now it's that dreaded decision time. I can basically attend UGA or Emory for the same price (I live in ATL currently and don't pay rent here, but I'd have to get a place in Athens), or GSU for half the price of either of those, or Macon for half the price of GSU since I got a full ride and would only have to pay for rent.... ahhhh..... decisions, decisions :(

Any input? Thanks in advance, hope you all have a wonderful day!
Guess it depends on your priorities. I was very impressed with Mercer when I visited but job prospects / location really played a part in my decision to withdraw (I was also offered full scholarship).
I want to work in Atlanta Biglaw. I've worked at Alston & Bird and McKenna, Long, & Aldridge, both Atlanta law firms, and from my experience hiring potential between Emory/UGA is pretty much the same, they tend to take out of the top 5-10% of GSU, and really #1 or #2 out of 150 at Mercer.
Only two people can be 1 or 2 at Mercer ;) ... I don't love those odds- no matter how smart/hardworking I am. You may have a better chance at being in the top at GSU than at Emory and UGA is in the middle of nowhere.......... Emory is a great name, though - if you can get the grades. It's all preference really.

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by vbc515 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:02 pm

kneedrag wrote:
vbc515 wrote: I want to work in Atlanta Biglaw. I've worked at Alston & Bird and McKenna, Long, & Aldridge, both Atlanta law firms, and from my experience hiring potential between Emory/UGA is pretty much the same, they tend to take out of the top 5-10% of GSU, and really #1 or #2 out of 150 at Mercer.
If you're going to be going back to those firms, what type of feeling did you get from them in terms of their opinions on the schools you listed? (To me) that would matter quite a bit more than many (often ill-informed) opinions on the internet. I would also think those connections will get you a leg up on your classmates.

I would think (unless you want to move back/forth) that Emory/GSU would be the smarter money (than UGA) and I probably wouldn't include Mercer at all from what you've said. I'd go with the school that you felt more personally drawn to (programs, campus, staff, culture, whatever) and that you think you will ultimately have better career prospects out of. If you really want to stay in Atlanta, I don't think someone with a solid class rank and good experience will see too much of a difference from one over the other. There's plenty of proponents in ATL BigLaw that will tell you to go to one or the other of those schools, each for their own reasons.

If you think you may leave, I'd probably give the edge to Emory. If you're really going to get in to BL, I wouldn't think the extra debt would be a total deal breaker, but don't over extend yourself (because nothing is guaranteed, esp. these days). Just make sure your cost of attending estimates include everything in addition to the tuition to make sure you don't surprise yourself with an extra $5k of loans each year or something.

Well, I've been pretty fortunate and have gotten kind of a unique perspective... I did legal work (doc review and the such) over at A&B but I'm an HR assistant at McKenna so I get to deal a lot more with the employee aspect, including hiring. My general feeling from talking to other attorneys is that if you want to stay in GA, especially Atlanta, GA-based firms will make it a point to recruit out of Emory and UGA before they look elsewhere. Like I said, the hiring potential is more or less the same, ie; there isn't much of a difference being in the top 20% of Emory vs the top 20% of UGA if you're looking at ATL Biglaw. Working in HR has confirmed this fact as well.

I really like both schools - I'm scheduled to visit both at the end of the month to get a better idea. I'd like to start in ATL, yes, but my boyfriend and I have plans of leaving...most of my family is in NY, so that's an option, and we'd like to eventually go out west. I think (again, from my experience) that once you've gotten your first gig as a lawyer, it matters less where you went to school and more where/how you work. For example, at firms like A&B, McKenna, King & Spaulding, etc, they tend to hire laterally if not from their summer class.

Yeah...cost of living is definitely something to consider...being from NY and having gone to UG in DC, ATL is already waaaaaaaaaay cheaper. Athens is even moreso, though. Definitely something to think about. Thanks for your sound advice!

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by ggocat » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:46 pm

Ga0-3L wrote:
vbc515 wrote:I want to work in Atlanta Biglaw. I've worked at Alston & Bird and McKenna, Long, & Aldridge, both Atlanta law firms, and from my experience hiring potential between Emory/UGA is pretty much the same, they tend to take out of the top 5-10% of GSU, and really #1 or #2 out of 150 at Mercer.
Only two people can be 1 or 2 at Mercer ;) ... I don't love those odds- no matter how smart/hardworking I am. You may have a better chance at being in the top at GSU than at Emory and UGA is in the middle of nowhere.......... Emory is a great name, though - if you can get the grades. It's all preference really.
I wouldn't normally hijack a thread like this, but I saw OP posted the same thing in the Mercer thread.

While it is true that the #1 student from Mercer's 2011 class was hired at McKenna, I believe both firms generally consider Mercer students in the top 10% and sometimes students outside the top 10%. Further, when you account for the difference in class sizes between GSU and Mercer (Mercer's class size is 66% of GSU's), you will see that the schools have placed equally at both firms.

Here are the number of lawyers at each firm from each school (if I counted correctly -- Alston doesn't let you search just by law school), with the adjusted-for-class-size GSU number in parenthesis.

McKenna:
Mercer - 12, GSU 17 (11.22)

Alston:
Mercer - 14, GSU 22 (14.52)

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Post by vbc515 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:54 pm

ggocat wrote:
Ga0-3L wrote:
vbc515 wrote:I want to work in Atlanta Biglaw. I've worked at Alston & Bird and McKenna, Long, & Aldridge, both Atlanta law firms, and from my experience hiring potential between Emory/UGA is pretty much the same, they tend to take out of the top 5-10% of GSU, and really #1 or #2 out of 150 at Mercer.
Only two people can be 1 or 2 at Mercer ;) ... I don't love those odds- no matter how smart/hardworking I am. You may have a better chance at being in the top at GSU than at Emory and UGA is in the middle of nowhere.......... Emory is a great name, though - if you can get the grades. It's all preference really.
I wouldn't normally hijack a thread like this, but I saw OP posted the same thing in the Mercer thread.

While it is true that the #1 student from Mercer's 2011 class was hired at McKenna, I believe both firms generally consider Mercer students in the top 10% and sometimes students outside the top 10%. Further, when you account for the difference in class sizes between GSU and Mercer (Mercer's class size is 66% of GSU's), you will see that the schools have placed equally at both firms.

Here are the number of lawyers at each firm from each school (if I counted correctly -- Alston doesn't let you search just by law school), with the adjusted-for-class-size GSU number in parenthesis.

McKenna:
Mercer - 12, GSU 17 (11.22)

Alston:
Mercer - 14, GSU 22 (14.52)
Thanks for this. The employees I've dealt with in recent memory have all been #1 or #2's, I think that's why I was prone to believe that was the case. You are right though and Mercer definitely does feed into these firms - for example, Zell Miller is a senior advisor at McKenna, and he's a Mercer grad. :)

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Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Post by roneman90 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:57 pm

Anyone who was held for second review hear anything recently? I know it's only been about a month, but wondering if anyone has been rejected or accepted since being put on hold.

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Post by ggocat » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:02 pm

vbc515 wrote:Thanks for this. The employees I've dealt with in recent memory have all been #1 or #2's, I think that's why I was prone to believe that was the case. You are right though and Mercer definitely does feed into these firms - for example, Zell Miller is a senior advisor at McKenna, and he's a Mercer grad. :)
AB and McKenna are great firms; I'm not surprised some top students would go there. I also would imagine that both firms (all employers) have tightened up hiring the past few years. It's possible that GSU will come out on top given its location; I just don't think that's happened yet.

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roneman90 wrote:Anyone who was held for second review hear anything recently? I know it's only been about a month, but wondering if anyone has been rejected or accepted since being put on hold.
Nope

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Post by roneman90 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:04 pm

tfleming09 wrote:
roneman90 wrote:Anyone who was held for second review hear anything recently? I know it's only been about a month, but wondering if anyone has been rejected or accepted since being put on hold.
Nope
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