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Any MDs entering law school this fall?

Post by MD/JD2B » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:42 am

I feel like I'm the only one. Where are you, you closet MDs?!?

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Post by animallover » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:06 pm

Just a humble Ph.D. here -- doubt you would count that? Mind you, program took 9 years, so I should get some credit for that!

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Post by hiromoto45 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:07 pm

MD/JD2B wrote:I feel like I'm the only one. Where are you, you closet MDs?!?
Why are yo going to law school?

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Post by MD/JD2B » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:15 pm

I have a lot of respect for PhDs; personally I don't have theimagination or the perseverance it takes. good luck to you.

I'm going to law school because there are enough pionts in medicine which interesect with the law..I'm pretty good at finding my own niche.

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Post by thwalls » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:21 pm

PhD here entering law school. I work with a lot of soon-to-be MDs in the research hospital I currently work at. I feel for MDs since we refer to all the MD students as the "short coats". They deal with a lot of abuse.

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Post by thegor1987 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:34 pm

MD/JD2B wrote:I feel like I'm the only one. Where are you, you closet MDs?!?
Sir you inspire greatness.

In about 2-3 years I should be submitting my JD/MD apps.

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Post by thegor1987 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:53 pm

OP,

Also, in your opinion, do you think that, all else being equal, it will hurt or help my applications if they know I am applying to both law & medical school? I wonder if I should submit both apps 100% exclusive of each other.

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Post by MD/JD2B » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:20 am

My opinion is to do law or medicine first by itself, go work a few years in that field, find out where your interests are, and then see if you still want to spend the time for another degree. By the time I finished medical school and training, I wanted a real job with real money, and cannot (in retrospect) imagine going to a JD program at that time. Some 18 years later, it's a different story. I have specific reasons for wanting to go into law which I did not have 20 years ago; also finances are different; not worried about getting my first house, etc. Keep in mind that receving one professional degree is a luxury, and a second one borders on the sublime. I have the trappings and the benefits of a fortysomething. Just can't ran as fast!

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Post by thegor1987 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 pm

You have a good point. However, when I am 40 something I plan on doing some commercial space traveling with virgin galactic so going to professional school is probably not going to be feasible, as most of my funds will be put aside for going into space. So if I don't do both now I likely won't go to the other later.

...although those massive doctors' salaries may allow both life opportunities, a lawyer's salary surely will not.

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Post by MD/JD2B » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:58 am

Is it too early to make a reservation with Virgin galactic and will virgins be provided?

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Post by thegor1987 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:59 am

It should come with virgins for the price they are charging, especially because they don't loop you around the world a couple of times before coming back down, but what they really do is just shoot you into space and let the earth's gravity pull you back down. Nevertheless, you still get to see the lord's view of the earth just the same.

I don't know if they are currently conducting spaceflights, but at the very least I know you can make a reservation. And the price should be going down to a 100k soon and eventually to only 20-30k.

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Post by UFMatt » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:04 pm

Another PhD here (biomedical). I work closely with MDs with my research, but obviously it's a bit different. We tend to go into IP law, whereas I would expect MDs to go into health policy...or be ridiculously intimidating medical malpractice attorneys. :D

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Post by MD/JD2B » Wed May 05, 2010 4:43 pm

I posted this over a month ago; no MDs responded...I'm a bit surprised.

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Post by adameus » Wed May 05, 2010 4:58 pm

there is a user called Meredith Gray that I've seen in the Harvard thread recently. She has an MD and has applied to law school.

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Post by 09042014 » Wed May 05, 2010 5:00 pm

Are you kidding me, if half of tls could get med school they wouldn't be going to law school.

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Post by nol607 » Wed May 05, 2010 5:05 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Are you kidding me, if half of tls could get med school they wouldn't be going to law school.

Truth. Badass MD (perry cox) >>>> Badass attorney (Levy)

EDIT: although I concede that it isn't an entirely appropriate comparison.

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Post by underachiever » Wed May 05, 2010 5:17 pm

nol607 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Are you kidding me, if half of tls could get med school they wouldn't be going to law school.

Truth. Badass MD (perry cox) >>>> Badass attorney (Levy)

EDIT: although I concede that it isn't an entirely appropriate comparison.
+1.....I think some of us "could" have done it or tried to, but we just studied liberal arts and don't have the background needed to even try. I am sure some, maybe even many here, have the intellectual capacity to do it however. I sometimes wish I had, when I talk to my med school friends I find their discussions much more interesting then law...ah, may be in another life or when I'm 25, after i graduate and can't get a law job I'll do my pre-recs for med school and give it a shot.

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Post by MD/JD2B » Thu May 06, 2010 2:45 pm

I hope some of you will consider the combination.

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Post by General Tso » Thu May 06, 2010 2:59 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Are you kidding me, if half of tls could get med school they wouldn't be going to law school.
Sorry but this is stupid. I would wager that at least 90% of TLS posters, and law applicants in general, never even tried to take any biology or other prereq's required to apply to medical school.

Moreover, in a given year between 42 and 48% of MD applicants are accepted to at least one school. The same figure for JD applicants hovers around 55%. So yeah, it's a little harder to get into med school. You will need to take tougher UG classes and study hard for the MCAT. But that doesn't mean that "half the law applicants" on this board couldn't get into med school, nor is there any indication that half of the people on TLS even WANT to go to med school.

I got respect for MD's and MD students, but let's not stretch things too far.

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Post by 09042014 » Thu May 06, 2010 3:01 pm

General Tso wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Are you kidding me, if half of tls could get med school they wouldn't be going to law school.
Sorry but this is stupid. I would wager that at least 90% of TLS posters, and law applicants in general, never even tried to take any biology or other prereq's required to apply to medical school.

Moreover, in a given year between 42 and 48% of MD applicants are accepted to at least one school. The same figure for JD applicants hovers around 55%. So yeah, it's a little harder to get into med school. You will need to take tougher UG classes and study hard for the MCAT. But that doesn't mean that "half the law applicants" on this board couldn't get into med school, nor is there any indication that half of the people on TLS even WANT to go to med school.

I got respect for MD's and MD students, but let's not stretch things too far.
Well I was joking, but there was a kernel of truth in it. But Law school is easier to get into, by far. I got into a T13, and I couldn't get into any med school because of my GPA.

People with no chance, don't even apply to med school, because of the premed requirements.

Though I wouldn't want to go to med school.

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Post by 84Sunbird2000 » Thu May 06, 2010 3:09 pm

I mean, you'd only have to go back for one year of school to get the pre-med req's. And even then, given what most schools have for GenEd req's (i.e. bio/physics/math classes you've already taken), you wouldn't have a terrible course load.

Basically, the splitters on TLS would have little to no shot, which is the half DF is talking about. Then, there is the massive in-state bias (even for private schools) that limits ones options in the way law schools (UNC excepted) rarely do. Med School is also more holistic in its applications (interviews), which is why students with 29 MCATs often get in while 35s sometimes do not.

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Post by 09042014 » Thu May 06, 2010 3:11 pm

84Sunbird2000 wrote:I mean, you'd only have to go back for one year of school to get the pre-med req's. And even then, given what most schools have for GenEd req's (i.e. bio/physics/math classes you've already taken), you wouldn't have a terrible course load.

Basically, the splitters on TLS would have little to no shot, which is the half DF is talking about. Then, there is the massive in-state bias (even for private schools) that limits ones options in the way law schools (UNC excepted) rarely do. Med School is also more holistic in its applications (interviews), which is why students with 29 MCATs often get in while 35s sometimes do not.
Those pre-med req's are actually difficult classes. They do a lot of weeding out.

There is no cooley of med schools.

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Post by General Tso » Thu May 06, 2010 3:15 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
84Sunbird2000 wrote:I mean, you'd only have to go back for one year of school to get the pre-med req's. And even then, given what most schools have for GenEd req's (i.e. bio/physics/math classes you've already taken), you wouldn't have a terrible course load.

Basically, the splitters on TLS would have little to no shot, which is the half DF is talking about. Then, there is the massive in-state bias (even for private schools) that limits ones options in the way law schools (UNC excepted) rarely do. Med School is also more holistic in its applications (interviews), which is why students with 29 MCATs often get in while 35s sometimes do not.
Those pre-med req's are actually difficult classes. They do a lot of weeding out.

There is no cooley of med schools.
My UG, Ole Miss, accepts over 50% of its MD applicants. But it is actually a well-regarded school, so no Cooley.

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Post by procrastinator » Thu May 06, 2010 3:16 pm

My mom grades the MCAT essay portion, and she will tell you that she's afraid to go to the doctor's office because of it.

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Post by 09042014 » Thu May 06, 2010 3:17 pm

General Tso wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
84Sunbird2000 wrote:I mean, you'd only have to go back for one year of school to get the pre-med req's. And even then, given what most schools have for GenEd req's (i.e. bio/physics/math classes you've already taken), you wouldn't have a terrible course load.

Basically, the splitters on TLS would have little to no shot, which is the half DF is talking about. Then, there is the massive in-state bias (even for private schools) that limits ones options in the way law schools (UNC excepted) rarely do. Med School is also more holistic in its applications (interviews), which is why students with 29 MCATs often get in while 35s sometimes do not.
Those pre-med req's are actually difficult classes. They do a lot of weeding out.

There is no cooley of med schools.
My UG, Ole Miss, accepts over 50% of its MD applicants. But it is actually a well-regarded school, so no Cooley.
Like I said off the bat, the prereqs, and MCat weed out tons of unqualified applicants off the bat. Anyone with a BA can apply to law school.

Anyone with a 150 can get into a law school if they apply to the right school.

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