UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[Mr_Chukes]

Yeah UCLA's Job prospects aren't the impressive when compared to USC, Berkeley or Stanford.

Uh what? I get you're biased but you're giving USC way too much credit here if you're saying its prospects are better than UCLA (especially since they're currently worse for Biglaw+fed clerk, which is a decent proxy for placement power).

I'm just going off the job placement numbers on US News and their website lol. On US News it is reported as 58℅

[Rigo]

Yeah UCLA's Job prospects aren't the impressive when compared to USC, Berkeley or Stanford.

Uh what? I get you're biased but you're giving USC way too much credit here if you're saying its prospects are better than UCLA (especially since they're currently worse for Biglaw+fed clerk, which is a decent proxy for placement power).

I'm just going off the job placement numbers on US News and their website lol. On US News it is reported as 58℅

Hm I don't know where they're getting that.
I'd recommend just going off the hard ABA data.
http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org
I'm calling firms with over 100 attorneys BigLaw.

USC is ~37.6% biglaw+fedclerk.
UCLA ~45.1%
Berkeley ~56.5%

[nimbus cloud]

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[Rigo]

You could make self-selection arguments about Berkley's placement being artificially depressed because of self-selection into PI/govt (you could make the same arguments about UCLA too to a degree since they both send a decent 20% chunk of their classes into PI/govt) but just some hard data above without too much nuance.

Bottom line is any law school decision will be a trade off between cost and placement power.

[Rigo]

Georgetown was at 44% this past year fwiw, with that being deflated to a degree by fedgov gunners.

[Rigo]

I do think Berkeley is more prestigious and has national reach whereas UCLA is more limited to the west coast/southwest.

California biglaw is tougher to crack than NYC so numbers are also depressed a bit by grads intent on staying in CA, I'm sure.

You have to consider your goals and debt tolerance when comparing B to UCLA/USC. Or any schools for that matter.

[Mr_Chukes]

Yeah UCLA's Job prospects aren't the impressive when compared to USC, Berkeley or Stanford.

Uh what? I get you're biased but you're giving USC way too much credit here if you're saying its prospects are better than UCLA (especially since they're currently worse for Biglaw+fed clerk, which is a decent proxy for placement power).

I'm just going off the job placement numbers on US News and their website lol. On US News it is reported as 58℅

Hm I don't know where they're getting that.
I'd recommend just going off the hard ABA data.
http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org
I'm calling firms with over 100 attorneys BigLaw.

USC is ~37.6% biglaw+fedclerk.
UCLA ~45.1%
Berkeley ~56.5%

I wasn't talking about big law. I was talking about general job placement. I got my info off US News Rankings, they have job placement there as well. Those are great numbers for UCLA big law though. If I get in imma look into it more lol. Thanks for the info bro .

[Rigo]

I guess the difference between UCLA and Berkeley is not as significant as I thought. If I had to guess, I would have said 33% vs. 66%.

It fluctuates a bit every year.

For c/o 2015 it's
USC ~37.6% BL+FC
UCLA ~45.1%
Berkeley ~56.5%

For c/o 2014 it's
USC ~41%
UCLA 39.6%
Berkeley 62.4%

For c/o 2013 it's
USC 33.8%
UCLA 39.4%
Berkeley 55.8%

So UCLA had a pretty good year last year and Berkeley fell a bit. Who knows why exactly since employment data really just reflects hundreds of microdecisions made by graduates. It's probably better to look at the last three years rather than just a single year. It will be interesting to see c/o 2016 in May.

[Rigo]

I wasn't talking about big law. I was talking about general job placement. I got my info off US News Rankings, they have job placement there as well. Those are great numbers for UCLA big law though. If I get in imma look into it more lol. Thanks for the info bro .

No worries! I just kind of wanted to shut down the notion that UCLA is inferior to USC in employment outcomes. If I had to nitpick I'd give UCLA the edge, but they're really as peer and peers can be.

[Rigo]

(I'd choose you Berk; let me in!)

[Colonel_funkadunk]

(I'd choose you Berk; let me in!)

i bet you say that to all the boys

[Rigo]

(I'd choose you Berk; let me in!)

i bet you say that to all the boys

Is that a scholarship in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

[Colonel_funkadunk]

(I'd choose you Berk; let me in!)

i bet you say that to all the boys

Is that a scholarship in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

theres a lot of q'able things id do for 1/2 tuition at berk

[jessmeesh]

Has anyone here who applied for BLOS heard anything yet?

[Assasindowntheavenue]

2/1 is "around 2/3". Hoping for a FR wave today, however unlikely it may be!

[Mr_Chukes]

Any wave updates today?

[Mr_Chukes]

(I'd choose you Berk; let me in!)

i bet you say that to all the boys

Is that a scholarship in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

theres a lot of q'able things id do for 1/2 tuition at berk

Yall two crack me up lol.

[chandhi]

Another day slowly passes without me going UR.

I was hoping to get a Valentine's Day treat from Berkeley, my one true love, but this is getting more and more unlikely.

I still love you.

[VA2lawschool]

Thoughts on when merit aid might start coming out?

[bearedman8]

Finally went UR today. Any idea on how quick the turnaround is from this point? >both 75ths.

Complete 1/09 btw.

[Rigo]

Finally went UR today. Any idea on how quick the turnaround is from this point? >both 75ths.

Complete 1/09 btw.

Some people have been having p quick turnaround if they want you so you might hear next week even.

[Baby Gaga]

Thoughts on when merit aid might start coming out?

Feb 15. From the admitted student's website:

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admitted-s ... holarship/

[SlippinJimmy]

Finally went UR today. Any idea on how quick the turnaround is from this point? >both 75ths.

Complete 1/09 btw.

It's anybody's guess, but itt can be pretty damn fast. I was complete 1/3 and heard back less than 3 weeks later.

[Rigo]

Did you end up applying last night?

[Monday]

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