UVA 2010, RD Forum

[wired]

UVA needs to get a move on. Had to really search for this thread

OMG SPEAK OF THE DEVIL!!!!!!! OMG LITERALLY JUST GOT THE EMAIL ASKING ME TO CALL AND I'M IN!!! I'M IN!!! WOOPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!! Numbers, dates, etc??

168/4.0 according to LSN.

Nice job on the 4.0. I still think that is more difficult than a 180.

[5ky]

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[Helmholtz]

168/4.0 according to LSN.

Nice job on the 4.0. I still think that is more difficult than a 180.

Do you know how many 180's there are out there vs. how many 4.0's?

[5ky]

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[0L Hoping for 1]

So of course I run and check mine. Still 11/04...sigh.

+1 mine is still 11/6

[5ky]

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[violaboy]

I'm still at 10/13...

[jlue05]

Going back through old posts, it seems like starry's status date updated to 12/07. That also happened for someone else who got in recently, so it seems like status date updates are a good thing now.

I'm skeptical. The date on my status checker has updated twice since mid-November with the same status (latest is 12/6) and I doubt it will be good news for me. There may be meaning to it but I wouldn't count on it always being a positive.

[starrydecisus]

Okay, I've calmed down a bit to share. Haha. Yes, correct on the numbers. Thank you for all the congrats ! And thanks about the 4.0. I worked really hard for it

Let's see, here are my dates:

Sent 10/13, Received/Complete, pending review decision 10/19. Pending Review/Decision date updated 12/07. Email today from Cordel Faulk, Director of Admissions, at 11:57 a.m. Eastern time, subject U.Va. Law, message:
[starrydecisus],

Could I get you to give me a call at this number: [number]?

Look forward to talking with you.

Called and he commented on my P.S. and offered me the spot!! The call was so very nice and cordial and I'm very excited!!

[LDC]

Congrats to everyone who's been accepted!

So the pending review/decision date updates before you hear about the decision? That's how it sounds... I'm ready to hear either way!

[0L Hoping for 1]

So of course I run and check mine. Still 11/04...sigh.

+1 mine is still 11/6

What did we do to deserve this, 0L?

I dont know

[JohnYuu]

Congrats to the 4.0 guy..but doesn't it seem like UVA has nothing but rankings on their minds?

[5ky]

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[oneforship]

168/4.0 according to LSN.

Nice job on the 4.0. I still think that is more difficult than a 180.

Do you know how many 180's there are out there vs. how many 4.0's?

There are probably more 4.0s than 170+

[bluejayk]

11 people on lsn for this cycle claim to have 180's, about 50 claim to have 4.0 or better.

[wired]

I recognize there are far fewer 180s than 4.0s. My statement doesn't make a lot of sense, but let me give some caveats.

First off, I should say perfect As are what I thought were more difficult than 180s. The 4.3 adjustment throws things off.

Second, I am excluding degree factories where a pulse is a sufficient condition for a 4.0.

Third, when I say "difficulty," I am referring primarily to the amount of work required to achieve it. I think the consistent effort needed to achieve a 4.0 is harder to put in, then the amount required to score near a 180. In connection with that, I think that most of the 180s have certain degree of luck to them that a 4.0 GPA doesn't have. There are some gifted individuals who can score a 180 more than 75% of the time, but I think they are a very small percentage of the people who actually score a 180. The vast majority (in my opinion) are people who typically score between a 175-180 and have the right test on the right day. Contrast that with a 4.0 which doesn't have the same type of luck.

Do my caveats make my statement any less incredible? If not, I probably ought to reconsider my position, but it seems to make sense to me right now.

[avacado111]

I recognize there are far fewer 180s than 4.0s. My statement doesn't make a lot of sense, but let me give some caveats.

First off, I should say perfect As are what I thought were more difficult than 180s. The 4.3 adjustment throws things off.

Second, I am excluding degree factories where a pulse is a sufficient condition for a 4.0.

Third, when I say "difficulty," I am referring primarily to the amount of work required to achieve it. I think the consistent effort needed to achieve a 4.0 is harder to put in, then the amount required to score near a 180. In connection with that, I think that most of the 180s have certain degree of luck to them that a 4.0 GPA doesn't have. There are some gifted individuals who can score a 180 more than 75% of the time, but I think they are a very small percentage of the people who actually score a 180. The vast majority (in my opinion) are people who typically score between a 175-180 and have the right test on the right day. Contrast that with a 4.0 which doesn't have the same type of luck.

Do my caveats make my statement any less incredible? If not, I probably ought to reconsider my position, but it seems to make sense to me right now.

this gives me a headace.

[imisscollege]

okay just for hypothesis sake non-splitter, RD, non-urm. Borderline numbers--typically waitlisted but occasionally accepted. Been UR for slightly over a month, never updated. I am currently in the little block of space on LSN between where the acceptances begin and where the highest numbers-WL has put themselves. Thoughts on how it will turn out?

[bluejayk]

Do my caveats make my statement any less incredible? If not, I probably ought to reconsider my position, but it seems to make sense to me right now.

Well, it's not a big deal, and I can see what you're getting at, I'd actually agree that having a 4.0 is impressive in certain ways that a 180 is not. You only ever have one chance for each class, anything less than an A and you're 4.0 is done forever. Hell, for a 180, you can often get as many as 2 questions wrong! But I can't resist pointing out this no-true-Scotsman fallacy here:

Second, I am excluding degree factories where a pulse is a sufficient condition for a 4.0.

So, a 4.0 is harder to get than a 180, and the easy to get 4.0's just don't count?:)

[lz06]

Yes, I didn't want to have to bump it myself yet again.

UVA has bumped themselves out of my T5

Me too. I use to love UVA. Now I don't even check this thread anymore because I know I'll just be disappointed

[onwisconsin25]

OL and 5ky I'm with you guys. My frustration level is growinggg! I've been complete now for 10 weeks. booo. I've almost stopped checking any statuses and just waiting to see what comes in the mail every day.

[5ky]

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[0L Hoping for 1]

I still love UVA more than any school. But still.

I used too. I even wrote my UVA all about the visit that I took to the school and I havent heard anything and I applied in September.. So it is making me dislike UVA

[starrydecisus]

Congrats to the 4.0 guy..but doesn't it seem like UVA has nothing but rankings on their minds?

As opposed to?

he DID reference the PS in his phone call though, as opposed to the 4.0. Nice that he read it!

[starrydecisus]

OL and 5ky I'm with you guys. My frustration level is growinggg! I've been complete now for 10 weeks. booo. I've almost stopped checking any statuses and just waiting to see what comes in the mail every day.

Patience, grasshoppers. I was complete for a long time before my acceptance. I had lost all hope. Now, all is well in the world.