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[Iwanttolawschool]

Just found out that I got a Dillard! I have a below-median LSAT and was accepted almost three months ago. I guess law school admissions isn't always the numbers game it's made out to be. Anyway, could not be more excited to visit soon!

Say whaaaaat? Congrats man

[cavalier2015]

Do ED candidates also get requests for interviews? Is this a common thing for them?

[hydromint]

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[hitherim]

Dillard notification today >3 months after accept. Total surprise.
LSAT<M GPA>m

[foles]

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[nickhalden]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

[Mack.Hambleton]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1

[hillz]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1

+2

[xylocarp]

seriously though what's going on

[The TrashMan]

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[nickhalden]

UVA giving Dillards to at and below LSAT medians. Fuck me. Congrats to recipients of course, but just wow.

[FloridaCoastalorbust]

UVA giving Dillards to at and below LSAT medians. Fuck me. Congrats to recipients of course, but just wow.

sux to be u bro

[bhowton]

Seriously, whats's going on? I've been complete for 3 months, am above both medians, and haven't been invited to have a chat. I must have sent in the wrong PS or something,

[LoganCouture]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1, congrats all!

My speculation on their strategy: Even more aggressive YP (seemingly based largely on ties to/desire to work in DMV area) to enhance "selectivity," probably conceding early in the cycle to drop their LSAT median, trying to maintain/raise GPA median maybe.

ETA: Are they still trying to shrink their class size too? I know they dropped about 25 students each of the last two years.

[ticklemesilly]

I applied around 1/5 and have yet to hear anything. No interview invite, only that I'm "complete" and I have been complete since right after submitting my application.

Does this mean a ding?

[RSN]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1, congrats all!

My speculation on their strategy: Even more aggressive YP (seemingly based largely on ties to/desire to work in DMV area) to enhance "selectivity," probably conceding early in the cycle to drop their LSAT median, trying to maintain/raise GPA median maybe.

ETA: Are they still trying to shrink their class size too? I know they dropped about 25 students each of the last two years.

Two years ago class size was over/around 360 (as it had been for many years). The class of 2017 is just over 300, I believe that's their target this year as well.

[ticklemesilly]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1, congrats all!

My speculation on their strategy: Even more aggressive YP (seemingly based largely on ties to/desire to work in DMV area) to enhance "selectivity," probably conceding early in the cycle to drop their LSAT median, trying to maintain/raise GPA median maybe.

ETA: Are they still trying to shrink their class size too? I know they dropped about 25 students each of the last two years.

So if this is correct splitters are not going to fare well this cycle....?

[nickhalden]

UVA giving Dillards to at and below LSAT medians. Fuck me. Congrats to recipients of course, but just wow.

sux to be u bro

I trust in the process, but from a very selfish perspective it's frustrating to see the Dillards going out like this. I'm really just baffled about the UVA strategy here. With full respect to pto1993, hitherim, and june1, a Dillard is literally the best possible outcome for their numbers. Why be so proactive with their trump card to statistically average applicants?

[LoganCouture]

Congrats to the Dillards- you guys have officially won the law school admissions game!

On a side note: I will give a million brownie points to anyone who can explain to me what UVA's admission strategy is this year. Because I am utterly baffled.

+1, congrats all!

My speculation on their strategy: Even more aggressive YP (seemingly based largely on ties to/desire to work in DMV area) to enhance "selectivity," probably conceding early in the cycle to drop their LSAT median, trying to maintain/raise GPA median maybe.

ETA: Are they still trying to shrink their class size too? I know they dropped about 25 students each of the last two years.

So if this is correct splitters are not going to fare well this cycle....?

I don't have any special insight. I'm just speculating. Seems like reverse splitters do much better at UVA, maybe in part because they think splitters have more/better options that they're more likely to take (perhaps especially with the drop in high LSAT applicants).

[foles]

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[Mack.Hambleton]

still why would they give full rides to someone right at median? that doesnt make sense

[june1]

I was certainly surprised when I got the letter, but I think, possibly naively, that there is probably more going on here than simple YP. After all, a Dillard would be strong motivation for many top scorers, regardless of other options. My guess is that, in addition to a degree of YP, there are two things at work here. First, this is a great time to be applying to law school. With top scores declining 15-20%, that next tier of scores gain value. We're still early in the cycle, and I wouldn't be surprised if you see similar results at other schools for lower-than-usual LSAT scorers.

Second, this whole thing reminded me about a post that Mike Spivey made months ago about the first major study done to determine the predictive ability for law school success of various admissions characteristics. If he had access to it, I would imagine all admissions staff did as well. Among the findings that would help an application like mine:
-uGPA is as predictive of success as LSAT
-Reverse splitters are as successful as traditional splitters
-STEM and Econ-Finance-Accounting majors are worth as many as 3 extra LSAT points
Link for anyone interested: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/applic ... -outcomes/

Not saying that there is some admissions revolution going on, just a personal guess that in the absence of high LSAT scorers, exceptionally high GPAs will become more coveted. It's not just about rankings, it's about building the most successful class possible with the available pool.

[OhBoyOhBortles]

So if this is correct splitters are not going to fare well this cycle....?

That's what it sounds like.

[Winston1984]

I was certainly surprised when I got the letter, but I think, possibly naively, that there is probably more going on here than simple YP. After all, a Dillard would be strong motivation for many top scorers, regardless of other options. My guess is that, in addition to a degree of YP, there are two things at work here. First, this is a great time to be applying to law school. With top scores declining 15-20%, that next tier of scores gain value. We're still early in the cycle, and I wouldn't be surprised if you see similar results at other schools for lower-than-usual LSAT scorers.

Second, this whole thing reminded me about a post that Mike Spivey made months ago about the first major study done to determine the predictive ability for law school success of various admissions characteristics. If he had access to it, I would imagine all admissions staff did as well. Among the findings that would help an application like mine:
-uGPA is as predictive of success as LSAT
-Reverse splitters are as successful as traditional splitters
-STEM and Econ-Finance-Accounting majors are worth as many as 3 extra LSAT points
Link for anyone interested: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/applic ... -outcomes/

Not saying that there is some admissions revolution going on, just a personal guess that in the absence of high LSAT scorers, exceptionally high GPAs will become more coveted. It's not just about rankings, it's about building the most successful class possible with the available pool.

Not sure why gpas would be more coveted than before. If there are fewer high LSATs, those should be more coveted. I understand that schools may be willing to drop a point on the LSAT and raise their gpa, but that doesn't mean high gpas are in demand. Really, it just means reverse splitters have a better shot than before, there are still a lot of them applying. I would just think that 168s or 169s are even more valuable.

[commandercup]

Hey did you all send thank you letters after your interviews?