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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by nicefunguy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:01 pm

Also rolled over ED, haven't heard anything this weekend. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Sorry to those who didn't make it :/

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by txlg689 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:49 am

I received a waitlist offer over the weekend and accepted it. I'm willing to hang in there until the very end as UT is my first choice. Anyone have any advice on getting off the waitlist at Texas?

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Post by nicefunguy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:59 am

txlg689 wrote:I received a waitlist offer over the weekend and accepted it. I'm willing to hang in there until the very end as UT is my first choice. Anyone have any advice on getting off the waitlist at Texas?

Continuing interest letter + periodic check-ins seem to be how most people go about it.

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Post by IsThisForReal » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:09 am

nicefunguy wrote:
txlg689 wrote:I received a waitlist offer over the weekend and accepted it. I'm willing to hang in there until the very end as UT is my first choice. Anyone have any advice on getting off the waitlist at Texas?

Continuing interest letter + periodic check-ins seem to be how most people go about it.
And someone mentioned extra LOR's
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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by nicefunguy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:19 am

Everyone who has previously been "dinged," were you denied or waitlisted? People don't seem to be very precise with what they mean by dinged around here.

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Post by whosinthehousejc » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:20 am

nicefunguy wrote:Everyone who has previously been "dinged," were you denied or waitlisted? People don't seem to be very precise with what they mean by dinged around here.
Ding means rejection.

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Post by LaraCroftEsq » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:21 am

Judging by LSN, UT sent out a good number of both denials and waitlists this weekend.
http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by nicefunguy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:39 am

whosinthehousejc wrote:
nicefunguy wrote:Everyone who has previously been "dinged," were you denied or waitlisted? People don't seem to be very precise with what they mean by dinged around here.
Ding means rejection.

That's how I'd understood it, but I've seen several people use it to mean "a decision other than accepted". So just wanted to check.

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Post by allentx » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:05 pm

Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by BigZuck » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:16 pm

allentx wrote:Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!
Read through the thread, I think I've addressed this at least twice as have other people

Short answer for me is I don't know what they consider peer. 30K a year at Cornell got them to go from 15 to 18K and then when I got a WUSTL fully late they bumped me from 18K to 20K

I'd be careful with the 'tude when you contact them. Also, WUSTL isn't really a peer of UT, especially for people who want to work in TX.

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by lawschool1741 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:22 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!
Read through the thread, I think I've addressed this at least twice as have other people

Short answer for me is I don't know what they consider peer. 30K a year at Cornell got them to go from 15 to 18K and then when I got a WUSTL fully late they bumped me from 18K to 20K

I'd be careful with the 'tude when you contact them. Also, WUSTL isn't really a peer of UT, especially for people who want to work in TX.
From what people have been saying, you can expect a $3-5K increase at most due to negotiations - not sure on who they consider peers.

Also, I know you were just venting, etc, but definitely be as professional as possible when submitting the negotiation - I have talked to the Fin. Aid office and they definitely have a 'you'd be honored to come here' mentality (not that that's necessarily a bad thing)

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by nosocat » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:30 pm

lawschool1741 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!
Read through the thread, I think I've addressed this at least twice as have other people

Short answer for me is I don't know what they consider peer. 30K a year at Cornell got them to go from 15 to 18K and then when I got a WUSTL fully late they bumped me from 18K to 20K

I'd be careful with the 'tude when you contact them. Also, WUSTL isn't really a peer of UT, especially for people who want to work in TX.
From what people have been saying, you can expect a $3-5K increase at most due to negotiations - not sure on who they consider peers.

Also, I know you were just venting, etc, but definitely be as professional as possible when submitting the negotiation - I have talked to the Fin. Aid office and they definitely have a 'you'd be honored to come here' mentality (not that that's necessarily a bad thing)
Wait, are you guys saying he/she shouldn't tell them how insulting the scholarship offer was? :wink:

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by allentx » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:43 pm

nosocat wrote:
lawschool1741 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!
Read through the thread, I think I've addressed this at least twice as have other people

Short answer for me is I don't know what they consider peer. 30K a year at Cornell got them to go from 15 to 18K and then when I got a WUSTL fully late they bumped me from 18K to 20K

I'd be careful with the 'tude when you contact them. Also, WUSTL isn't really a peer of UT, especially for people who want to work in TX.
From what people have been saying, you can expect a $3-5K increase at most due to negotiations - not sure on who they consider peers.

Also, I know you were just venting, etc, but definitely be as professional as possible when submitting the negotiation - I have talked to the Fin. Aid office and they definitely have a 'you'd be honored to come here' mentality (not that that's necessarily a bad thing)
Wait, are you guys saying he/she shouldn't tell them how insulting the scholarship offer was? :wink:
Obviously I will maintain professionalism when speaking with them. It just came as a shock that I was offered less than 20% after people from their office had told me that I might be in the range of a full scholarship offer.

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by lawschool1741 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:10 pm

nosocat wrote: Wait, are you guys saying he/she shouldn't tell them how insulting the scholarship offer was? :wink:
Haha! Fair enough. Was really just wanting to stress how my impressions with UT have made me even more cautious with the way to communicate these things

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by lawschool1741 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:12 pm

allentx wrote: Obviously I will maintain professionalism when speaking with them. It just came as a shock that I was offered less than 20% after people from their office had told me that I might be in the range of a full scholarship offer.
Yea..I would be pissed about that too. They don't seem to be too stingy this year according to LSN, so wonder what changed for you...especially since it doesn't seem YP is likely since you wen there for UG.

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by nosocat » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:43 pm

lawschool1741 wrote:
nosocat wrote: Wait, are you guys saying he/she shouldn't tell them how insulting the scholarship offer was? :wink:
Haha! Fair enough. Was really just wanting to stress how my impressions with UT have made me even more cautious with the way to communicate these things
Definitely a valid point, and maybe even more so considering the new background info. It's an odd situation.

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by BigZuck » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:16 pm

lawschool1741 wrote:
allentx wrote: Obviously I will maintain professionalism when speaking with them. It just came as a shock that I was offered less than 20% after people from their office had told me that I might be in the range of a full scholarship offer.
Yea..I would be pissed about that too. They don't seem to be too stingy this year according to LSN, so wonder what changed for you...especially since it doesn't seem YP is likely since you wen there for UG.
Two cycles ago at least you needed HYS numbers to get a full ride at UT. Has that changed?

Allen- if you show them a HYS acceptance they might change their tune. Guessing just a WUSTL fully won't do the trick. It's easy to get a WUSTL fully (unless that has changed too. Been a while since I was in the admissions game)

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by hearsay77 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:10 pm

Accepted 1/15, still no scholarship email :(

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I haven't been informed anything but received an email inviting me to join UT Law's Facebook group... What does this indicate?

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Post by Ron Don Volante » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:17 pm

txlg689 wrote:I received a waitlist offer over the weekend and accepted it. I'm willing to hang in there until the very end as UT is my first choice. Anyone have any advice on getting off the waitlist at Texas?
There's one surefire way: retake in June and get a 167+. Will do a lot more than extra LORs/LOCI, which they don't really care about that much.
allentx wrote:Obviously I will maintain professionalism when speaking with them. It just came as a shock that I was offered less than 20% after people from their office had told me that I might be in the range of a full scholarship offer.
If your background screams "Texas" they know they have you. UT is a better school for Texas natives that want to be in Texas than several T14 schools; they know it, and know that you/the average TX kid knows it. They're probably just not scared that you're actually going to spurn them for like WUSTL or Cornell.

Also do not expect to get the number Zuck threw out for the WUSTL fully. Zuck's cycle was like the first year WUSTL did the monopoly money thing, so the offer might have meant more the first time around, but -- more importantly -- a guy I know with basically the same numbers as me (not as good as Zuck's) tried to match a fully and got like 14 or 15K a year for it.

Also you (officially) only get one chance to negotiate scholarships. You submit one request and that's it -- I'd save it until later in the process. I know Zuck said he got two chances, but they actually changed the process right after his cycle.

If any of you have qs on scholarship negotiations or UT law in general, too, I'd recommend posting in one of the "Recently Graduated/2L UT students taking Qs" topics. Those probably get more traffic from current students than this thread, though Zuck and Ox obviously know their shit.
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Post by hearsay77 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:21 pm

victorrrj wrote:I haven't been informed anything but received an email inviting me to join UT Law's Facebook group... What does this indicate?
Did you miss any calls from a Texas number? I got that email after getting the call from Dean Ingram.

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Post by victorrrj » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:26 pm

hearsay77 wrote:
victorrrj wrote:I haven't been informed anything but received an email inviting me to join UT Law's Facebook group... What does this indicate?
Did you miss any calls from a Texas number? I got that email after getting the call from Dean Ingram.
It can't be... tho we have more than 13 hours time difference, I can be waken up by any noise made by my phone at this moment... And the status checker hasn't updated yet...

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Post by hearsay77 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:29 pm

victorrrj wrote:
hearsay77 wrote:
victorrrj wrote:I haven't been informed anything but received an email inviting me to join UT Law's Facebook group... What does this indicate?
Did you miss any calls from a Texas number? I got that email after getting the call from Dean Ingram.
It can't be... tho we have more than 13 hours time difference, I can be waken up by any noise made by my phone at this moment... And the status checker hasn't updated yet...
My status checker didn't update either, for what its worth.

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Post by El Principe » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:39 pm

allentx wrote:Does anyone know how the matching program at UT works? I graduated UT undergrad and was offered a rather insulting scholarship offer a couple weeks ago. A couple days ago I received a full scholarship offer from WashU, which would be hard to pass up of UT does not significantly up their offer. Is anyone familiar with if UT views WashU as a "peer school"? Thanks and good luck to everyone else still waiting!
Take this with a grain of salt because I was never in the position to be able to use the matching program, but I want to say they didn't consider WashU as a peer school.

You can more or less ignore that previous part, because that's completely anecdotal second hand information at best, and that's assuming I remembered correctly. The most important aspect that I do remember, assuming they have the same program in place, is that you should wait until you have everything in hand before submitting because you generally only have one shot at matching.

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Re: University of Texas C/O 18 Applicants

Post by BigZuck » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:48 pm

Ron Don Volante wrote:
txlg689 wrote:I received a waitlist offer over the weekend and accepted it. I'm willing to hang in there until the very end as UT is my first choice. Anyone have any advice on getting off the waitlist at Texas?
There's one surefire way: retake in June and get a 167+. Will do a lot more than extra LORs/LOCI, which they don't really care about that much.
allentx wrote:Obviously I will maintain professionalism when speaking with them. It just came as a shock that I was offered less than 20% after people from their office had told me that I might be in the range of a full scholarship offer.
If your background screams "Texas" they know they have you. UT is a better school for Texas natives that want to be in Texas than several T14 schools; they know it, and know that you/the average TX kid knows it. They're probably just not scared that you're actually going to spurn them for like WUSTL or Cornell.

Also do not expect to get the number Zuck threw out for the WUSTL fully. Zuck's cycle was like the first year WUSTL did the monopoly money thing, so the offer might have meant more the first time around, but -- more importantly -- a guy I know with basically the same numbers as me (not as good as Zuck's) tried to match a fully and got like 14 or 15K a year for it.

Also you (officially) only get one chance to negotiate scholarships. You submit one request and that's it -- I'd save it until later in the process. I know Zuck said he got two chances, but they actually changed the process right after his cycle.

If any of you have qs on scholarship negotiations or UT law in general, too, I'd recommend posting in one of the "Recently Graduated/2L UT students taking Qs" topics. Those probably get more traffic from current students than this thread, though Zuck and Ox obviously know their shit.
They didn't change anything after my cycle, it was always a one shot deal. I negotiated twice because I didn't let the one shot deal decree deter me.

WUSTL has always done the Monopoly money thing but my cycle they really had no shame. They tried to poach people in the summer and gave full rides to people with 166 and a pulse. I wasn't offering that up as a guide for the OP necessarily because I'm sure things have changed and the WUSTL craziness is a one cycle relic, I was just giving the OP one perspective because TLS is so damn anon-crazy and secretive I wanted to at least give the OP some actual numbers because I didn't think he/she would get them otherwise.

The main takeaway I meant to offer up (and this could be totally moot depending on how things have changed in two years) was that 90K at Cornell barely got them to budge.

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