Cornell c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014) Forum

[Serett]

Cornell is just reducing their class size to 20 this year.

[MnM22]

Cornell is just reducing their class size to 20 this year.

HAHAHAH! +100

I wonder if the delay in completions has anything to do with the weather. Ithaca got hit pretty bad with cold temps/ etc. and the entire city is in a state of emergency. Broken pipes etc. are causing floods. Perhaps it's slowing down the office's operations?

This is very plausible. Now I feel like a jerk...

[patfeeney]

Cornell is just reducing their class size to 20 this year.

HAHAHAH! +100

I wonder if the delay in completions has anything to do with the weather. Ithaca got hit pretty bad with cold temps/ etc. and the entire city is in a state of emergency. Broken pipes etc. are causing floods. Perhaps it's slowing down the office's operations?

This is very plausible. Now I feel like a jerk...

No need to feel like a jerk. I called twice today and apparently their office is closed, so there is definitely some unusual delay going on.

Funny, I drove down to Ithaca (close to home) and it didn't seem terrible. I didn't go downtown so that probably explains it, but up on East Hill things seem relatively cleared.

[bound]

I have a feeling that I am in this for the long haul..... December taker and submitted after new score. By the looks of it, I'll be waiting MONTHS.

[Tariffs]

Just took a look at the status checker and I've been accepted! Submitted 11/23, Complete 12/23. Stats are in profile. I'm also currently an undergrad here, and have taken two cross-listed classes at the law school with a professor there, so I'm pretty excited about this one.

[edwardt1988]

Just took a look at the status checker and I've been accepted! Submitted 11/23, Complete 12/23. Stats are in profile. I'm also currently an undergrad here, and have taken two cross-listed classes at the law school with a professor there, so I'm pretty excited about this one.

Congrats!

Now for my problems: Submitted early Nov and nothing

[BentleyLittle]

Just took a look at the status checker and I've been accepted! Submitted 11/23, Complete 12/23. Stats are in profile. I'm also currently an undergrad here, and have taken two cross-listed classes at the law school with a professor there, so I'm pretty excited about this one.

Did you also get an e-mail?

[applelover]

Submitted November 26. Still Incomplete.

I am not sure what is worse. Not being complete for two months, or being complete and having no movement for two months.

The latter. I went complete in October and no movement since November.

[Tariffs]

Just took a look at the status checker and I've been accepted! Submitted 11/23, Complete 12/23. Stats are in profile. I'm also currently an undergrad here, and have taken two cross-listed classes at the law school with a professor there, so I'm pretty excited about this one.

Did you also get an e-mail?

The status checker said I should be receiving one later today + a letter in the mail sometime soon.

[MnM22]

They must be working today despite the weather.

[g-radical]

Just received my acceptance through email! Submitted 11/1 and complete 11/18. Congrats to the other admits!!

[sandwich]

So, everyone who applied ED1 already heard back by now, yeah? Do we have any consensus as to what they're going for (i.e. were they splitter friendly? Reverse-splitter-friendly? Just plain ol' unfriendly?

Someone answer quick, because in the meantime I'm going to be (slowly) wading my way through this thread and trying to figure it out I'll post what I find for y'all!

Also, there are only three data points on lsn that I could find. a 168/3.39 accept, a 167/3.72 accept, and a 157/3.71 ding. Maybe it's just me, but these are not the numbers (yeah, yeah--limited sample size and all) I expected...

[Serett]

So, everyone who applied ED1 already heard back by now, yeah? Do we have any consensus as to what they're going for (i.e. were they splitter friendly? Reverse-splitter-friendly? Just plain ol' unfriendly?

Someone answer quick, because in the meantime I'm going to be (slowly) wading my way through this thread and trying to figure it out I'll post what I find for y'all!

Also, there are only three data points on lsn that I could find. a 168/3.39 accept, a 167/3.72 accept, and a 157/3.71 ding. Maybe it's just me, but these are not the numbers (yeah, yeah--limited sample size and all) I expected...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharing

Courtesy of LS22 and the provided numbers of TLS applicants.

[sandwich]

^Yeah! I saw that, I just got freaked when LS22 started asking for help maintaining the spreadsheet and then there are only 4 ED applicants. I figured that there was some data missing, but if the spreadsheet is complete... well, then. I feel silly

[Serett]

^Yeah! I saw that, I just got freaked when LS22 started asking for help maintaining the spreadsheet and then there are only 4 ED applicants. I figured that there was some data missing, but if the spreadsheet is complete... well, then. I feel silly

Well, the information in it is just voluntarily edited in by applicants, so it's not (and will never be) "complete" so much as it's just a sample of those TLSers who actually add themselves in. I think the issues occurring within the spreadsheets are that people keep sorting or otherwise altering them in the Google Documents, and that messes with how the data and analytics display. Still, from what I can tell, the Cornell data looks fine and is probably the best thing out there as an alternative to perusing LSN or extrapolating from past years' data.

[gta]

have you guys received fee waiver from Cornell? if so, do you mind share your LSAT number?..

I did 3.6 175

Solicited? or CRS?

I got a CRS waiver from Cornell with 3.65/173.

[sandwich]

So, if anyone cares, IF the spreadsheet is up to date (I'll check tomorrow), there's six data points for ED.


Pretty much all of them are different when considering 25ths and 75ths, so I just looked at either at/above median vs below median.

So, when taking those, and taking ONLY these six data points (so, it's important to remember that you really can't draw any valid conclusions from only six data points, so this is just fun speculation), here's what it looks like.

They had one reverse splitter (below lsat, at/above gpa) apply, and rejected them.

They had three splitters (below gpa, at/above lsat) apply, and took them all

They had two people at/above both medians, and took them both.



So, just based on this preliminary data, I wonder if they are possibly trying to do a UVA thing and do a splitter friendly ED option? I mean, it's logical that most schools will take people at/above both medians and reject those below both medians. So the two at/above applicants are just kind of expected. Any below median people probably would have been rejected. So any real evidence would be in how many reverse splitters or splitters they take. In a perfect world, there would be hundreds of data points and they would take all of either splitters or reverse splitters and reject all of the other. But as it is, they took all three splitters and rejected the one reverse splitter. Just one more thing to speculate about!

I mean, I know this is a useless sample size. But I thought, hey, I'm really curious, maybe others will be, as well?

Or am I totally off base somewhere with some assumption or another? Wouldn't surprise me one bit. For example, that reverse splitter had a really low lsat, so it's not like they got a viable reverse splitter and rejected them.

Here's the numbers that I found, which are basically just the spreadsheet and lsn:

3.39 168 accept
3.72 167 accept
3.71 157 reject
3.34 166 accept
3.68 166 accept
3.4 168 accept


Most importantly: GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!!



ETA:

Well, the information in it is just voluntarily edited in by applicants, so it's not (and will never be) "complete" so much as it's just a sample of those TLSers who actually add themselves in. I think the issues occurring within the spreadsheets are that people keep sorting or otherwise altering them in the Google Documents, and that messes with how the data and analytics display. Still, from what I can tell, the Cornell data looks fine and is probably the best thing out there as an alternative to perusing LSN or extrapolating from past years' data.

yeah, I know it's not "complete" complete. I just meant I wonder if anyone has gone through and made sure the spreadsheet has all the reported numbers from this thread, because I know ls22 tried to keep up with that but seems to have been overwhelmed as of late (understandably). I was wondering if it's complete as much as it can be to reflect what has been reported in this thread. So I'm going to check the thread history tomorrow and see if there's any numbers reported in the thread that didn't make it to the spreadsheet

[n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t]

No movement since Dec, complete in Nov :(.

[applelover]

They must have accidentally lost my application. That's what I'm going to keep telling myself.

[phillywc]

They must have accidentally lost my application. That's what I'm going to keep telling myself.

Hey, they threw mine out on purpose

[applelover]

They must have accidentally lost my application. That's what I'm going to keep telling myself.

Hey, they threw mine out on purpose

They would never!!

[phillywc]

They must have accidentally lost my application. That's what I'm going to keep telling myself.

Hey, they threw mine out on purpose

They would never!!

Well you see, I love Michael Carter-Williams, a graduate of Syracuse, a fellow upstate NY school.


or something

[Lavitz]

long post

FWIW, I know at least one reverse splitter who got in ED.

[Dominican_Lawyer]

have you guys received fee waiver from Cornell? if so, do you mind share your LSAT number?..

I did 3.6 175

Solicited? or CRS?

I got a CRS waiver from Cornell with 3.65/173.

CRS

[sandwich]

long post

FWIW, I know at least one reverse splitter who got in ED.

Totally good to know.
Also, Lavitz... on a personal note, you rock. It's kind of nice to have an insider so involved with the applicant thread!

I keep meaning to totally bum you out with a million PM questions, but then I usually just decide to make up the answers I want and then try really hard to convince myself that they're true. Using this method, I've managed to deduce (mathematically, of course) that Cornell is offering an average of $200,000/year to all splitters, and that an earthquake recently moved Ithaca down to Florida. This same earthquake killed Donald Trump, who left me his fortune and his pet roboctopus.