I made it into my "REACH" Forum

[théo]

No! Don't be quiet! Don't except people's incorrect rationale as ok. Don't just say "People's opinions tend to be set," continue to point to their flaws in reasoning so they can learn the truth, or at least the full opinion of the opposing side.

I'm not looking for any sympathy, I just want people to understand that he did not deserve to get that spot. I know that most of you think that minorities are entitled to huge advantages for any who have even the slightest amount of ambition, but that's wrong. People are entitled to what they earn. Under the same testing conditions as everyone else, he scored remarkably lower than the average acceptance of the schools he's gotten into. That is inherently unfair. And to be smug about it is worse. I know people who deserve that spot and I can tell you with absolute certainty that they worked harder than him. I'm sorry to point this person out specifically, but it is part of a larger point. Complacence on this issue will only foster greater aggravation and disdain towards this attitude of false achievement. So congrats on getting in, that doesnt change the fact that intellectually, you're nowhere near your future classmates.

So I guess we should all work harder next time to be born straight, white, and into a rich family. Because those are also things you earn.

[théo]

Target: Berkeley
Numbers: 3.65/165
URM: Yes
The only reason I was admitted: cuz I'm a URM

ftfy

lol let her dream! she might work harder cause of it.

either ways congrats amadap!

Actually I think the reason I was admitted was because of my personal statement. I wrote about how I had a child before I graduated from high school, and another while at Berkeley without any time off. I raised them as a single mother. And I wrote a GPA addendum explaining why I had below average grades the semester I had my daughter, and how I have gotten straight A pluses for the last 2 years, while working and doing volunteer work.

That is really admirable, congrats!

[neonx]

Actually I think the reason I was admitted was because of my personal statement. I wrote about how I had a child before I graduated from high school, and another while at Berkeley without any time off. I raised them as a single mother. And I wrote a GPA addendum explaining why I had below average grades the semester I had my daughter, and how I have gotten straight A pluses for the last 2 years, while working and doing volunteer work.

That is really admirable, congrats!

Your story makes me so excited for you and your family, amandap. Best of luck. =)

[théo]

Umm, No. I, and everyone else, know exactly what got him in. Hundreds of people with far better scores and GPA's got passed over and he got in. Why do you have to pretend like you can't say the reason a 156 got in and someone with 10 more points on the lsat didn't? You're going to law school? Someone in preschool can identify the reason. The fact that you get so hostile at the hint of reality just validates what I'm saying. I'd like to know what excruciating life experience in inherited exclusively to blacks/latinos/native americans that can't be found in any other minority group. If you think that there is AA in the courtroom, you're wrong. At what point do you suggest letting people be judged equally by the quality of their merits and not by their skin?

Hey, yeah, guess what there is in the courtroom?

http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/pu ... nicity.pdf

All your opinions seem to come from the fact that you think 100% social equality exists in America. That's very heartwarming and optimistic of you, but...no, sorry. We're not quite there yet.

[20121109]

Just to reiterate what Helmholtz said previously:

Any AA debates will NOT be tolerated and will result in bans. Take that bullshit to the lounge. There is a 100+ page thread dedicated to it. I know URMs may be frustrated due to the devaluation of their accomplishments by certain trolls but please do not entertain them with a response.

[red_alertz]

ragged speaks the truth

[Gotti]

ragged speaks the truth

why would you post this right after a mod tells you you'll be banned if you continue this debate. dumb.

[red_alertz]

shhhh..... maybe i won't be noticed.... just thought it's a little unfair ragged gets banged on so harshly

[krad]

Southwestern Law is the Reach

GPA: 3.2
LSAT: 151
URM: I don't know if Armenian is considered a URM in Los Angeles anymore.
What got me in: Persistence.

Usually this wouldn't be a reach, but if you look at LSN..they've been denying and wait-listing people with 158's and 3.2's.

Congrats! And as a former LA resident with plenty of Armenian friends, I lol'd @ the bolded

[kdubb513]

Numbers: 3.71 161
URM: Yes


In:
Stanford
Columbia
Chicago

What got me in: I was very involved in Undergrad. I worked really hard on my applications and essays. My LOR were very good.

[Gotti]

Numbers: 3.71 161
URM: Yes


In:
Stanford
Columbia
Chicago

What got me in: I was very involved in Undergrad. I worked really hard on my applications and essays. My LOR were very good.

WOW!!!! congrats. this is a real reach!

[Gotti]

Southwestern Law is the Reach

GPA: 3.2
LSAT: 151
URM: I don't know if Armenian is considered a URM in Los Angeles anymore.
What got me in: Persistence.

Usually this wouldn't be a reach, but if you look at LSN..they've been denying and wait-listing people with 158's and 3.2's.

Congrats! And as a former LA resident with plenty of Armenian friends, I lol'd @ the bolded

hahaha +1

[théo]

Just to reiterate what Helmholtz said previously:

Any AA debates will NOT be tolerated and will result in bans. Take that bullshit to the lounge. There is a 100+ page thread dedicated to it. I know URMs may be frustrated due to the devaluation of their accomplishments by certain trolls but please do not entertain them with a response.

My bad for bringing it up again. I tend to get overly passionate about these things. And Berkeley still rejected me! Must be because I'm not a URM.

[rebelx13]

In at Hastings with a 153 and 3.7 (combined UC + community college GPA). Minority, but not URM, and honestly, I felt I had no chance and didn't even spend more than an hour on the entire application. I used my very much polished SCU essay and applied LEOP and got in. Expected the worst, but got good news instead!

[20121109]

shhhh..... maybe i won't be noticed....

Oh no, honey. I noticed. Enjoy your time off.

And Berkeley still rejected me! Must be because I'm not a URM.

You must be the only one who finds this funny. Feel free to PM me and explain the joke upon return.

[Gotti]

shhhh..... maybe i won't be noticed....

Oh no, honey. I noticed. Enjoy your time off.

And Berkeley still rejected me! Must be because I'm not a URM.

You must be the only one who finds this funny. Feel free to PM me and explain the joke upon return.

i think he was being sarcastic...i'm assuming because he was defending AA earlier ITT?

[20121109]

shhhh..... maybe i won't be noticed....

Oh no, honey. I noticed. Enjoy your time off.

And Berkeley still rejected me! Must be because I'm not a URM.

You must be the only one who finds this funny. Feel free to PM me and explain the joke upon return.

i think he was being sarcastic...i'm assuming because he was defending AA earlier ITT?

Just to reiterate what Helmholtz said previously:

Any AA debates will NOT be tolerated and will result in bans. Take that bullshit to the lounge. There is a 100+ page thread dedicated to it. I know URMs may be frustrated due to the devaluation of their accomplishments by certain trolls but please do not entertain them with a response.

Any mention/allusion to AA was banworthy after this post. The motivations behind it are irrelevant.

[FutureInLaw]

GPA: 3.7 , LSAT 167
URM: N

Georgetown

Optional Essay: LGBT DS & included "why GULC" in PS

What helped: HYP undergrad? 4 years WE (2 being public interest related)? 3 solid LOR?

Submitted late November, heard back late December

However, with no money (which is expected), I don't think I'll be attending. Will probably be going to BU w/ $85k.

[crossarmant]

165/2.4, thought i was never going to law school with that GPA, but I got into Golden Gate and Appalachian! woot! both ABA accredited unlike La Verne which also accepted me

Yeah, reapply. I have a * and * and even I got into Rutgers - Camden with money. You can easily get into some mid T2s and probably with a decent amount of scholarships. I mean, if your GPA wasn't so low that LSAT would make you competitive at William & Mary and the like.



Got accepted to Rutgers - Camden with a $5k a year scholarship and got into University of Denver. Waitlisted at Richmond, Penn State, and Oregon.

In all honesty, before I started lurking TLS I honestly thought I'd either be not getting into law school or stuck at some Tier 4 Toilet. Definitely glad I read up on everything, learning that my GPA may hold me back from a lot, but not nearly as much as I dreaded.

[mettasutta]

Never thought I'd post in here!

GPA: 3.82
LSAT: 164
URM: No

NAME OF REACH SCHOOL: Boston College ($45K), Notre Dame ($36K), William & Mary ($30K)
OPTIONAL ESSAY: None
WHAT GOT ME IN: Compelling PS and work experience, strong recommendations, a little bit of luck

[Wactawshus]

Just to reiterate what Helmholtz said previously:

Any AA debates will NOT be tolerated and will result in bans. Take that bullshit to the lounge. There is a 100+ page thread dedicated to it. I know URMs may be frustrated due to the devaluation of their accomplishments by certain trolls but please do not entertain them with a response.

**GASP** Feelings may have been hurt on a message board. If this pertains to you, good luck IRL.

[Gotti]

Never thought I'd post in here!

GPA: 3.82
LSAT: 164
URM: No

NAME OF REACH SCHOOL: Boston College ($45K), Notre Dame ($36K), William & Mary ($30K)
OPTIONAL ESSAY: None
WHAT GOT ME IN: Compelling PS and work experience, strong recommendations, a little bit of luck

???? Congrats but those schools are targets lol

[mettasutta]

Never thought I'd post in here!

GPA: 3.82
LSAT: 164
URM: No

NAME OF REACH SCHOOL: Boston College ($45K), Notre Dame ($36K), William & Mary ($30K)
OPTIONAL ESSAY: None
WHAT GOT ME IN: Compelling PS and work experience, strong recommendations, a little bit of luck

???? Congrats but those schools are targets lol

Hmmm, I suppose you're right. I do feel incredibly grateful to have these options, as folks with similar/better numbers have been waitlisted/rejected left and right (esp. BC...they are soooo random!) And plus, I applied really late--early Jan.

[Gotti]

???? Congrats but those schools are targets lol[/quote]

Hmmm, I suppose you're right. I do feel incredibly grateful to have these options, as folks with similar/better numbers have been waitlisted/rejected left and right (esp. BC...they are soooo random!) And plus, I applied really late--early Jan.[/quote]
Congrats all the same

[mettasutta]

???? Congrats but those schools are targets lol

Hmmm, I suppose you're right. I do feel incredibly grateful to have these options, as folks with similar/better numbers have been waitlisted/rejected left and right (esp. BC...they are soooo random!) And plus, I applied really late--early Jan.[/quote]
Congrats all the same [/quote]

Same to you! Hopefully some of the T14 waitlists pull through for you...kickass GPA you have there.