UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016) Forum

[Draconem]

Well over both 75th, offered 80K. Not very generous. Why are they offering so much less than T14s??
Is this a bargaining game?

My offer was a bit lower than expected as well, especially considering I showed them a full-ride to a higher ranked school.

One thing we heard at ASD yesterday, though, was that Dean Mnookin is hoping/planning/promising to instate some kind of tuition guarantee program where the tuition is only going to rise a couple hundred $ each year (she didn't seem to have final numbers). They're already quite a bit cheaper than most other T14 schools (tuition is set by the UC Regents, so they don't have the option of raising it higher and playing the big scholarship game). If you're not a CA resident, apparently there are ways to become one for 2L and 3L. All of these, I think, are reasons why their offers are lower than those of their peer schools.

I just got an email about the fixed tuition thing.

Basically you need to get a California drivers license and live in California for a year (so have a place before the semester starts) and you'll be a resident in a year.

What about the parent's financial stipulation? Don't you have to be declared as an independent for at least two years before being financially independent enough to qualify as a resident?

I might have misread that.

[87mm]

Well over both 75th, offered 80K. Not very generous. Why are they offering so much less than T14s??
Is this a bargaining game?

My offer was a bit lower than expected as well, especially considering I showed them a full-ride to a higher ranked school.

One thing we heard at ASD yesterday, though, was that Dean Mnookin is hoping/planning/promising to instate some kind of tuition guarantee program where the tuition is only going to rise a couple hundred $ each year (she didn't seem to have final numbers). They're already quite a bit cheaper than most other T14 schools (tuition is set by the UC Regents, so they don't have the option of raising it higher and playing the big scholarship game). If you're not a CA resident, apparently there are ways to become one for 2L and 3L. All of these, I think, are reasons why their offers are lower than those of their peer schools.

I just got an email about the fixed tuition thing.

Basically you need to get a California drivers license and live in California for a year (so have a place before the semester starts) and you'll be a resident in a year.

What about the parent's financial stipulation? Don't you have to be declared as an independent for at least two years before being financially independent enough to qualify as a resident?

I might have misread that.

"California is home to five of the top 50 law schools, UC Berkeley, UCLA, UC Hastings, and UC Davis, and UC Irvine. The good news is that unlike some states, which make it notoriously difficult for students to achieve residency, California makes in-state tuition available to students in their second year. However, there are a few caveats. First of all, the individual petitioning for residency must reside continuously in the state of California for one year. This means no spending summers back home if home is not located within Golden State. You must have been in the state for one full year prior to the first day of classes, so arrive before classes start. Students must also furnish evidence that they intend to make CA their home for the long haul, including the signing of a "long term" lease, a CA income tax return, registering to vote in CA elections, getting a CA drivers license or state ID, and/or registering your car in California. Additionally, if your parents do not live in CA, then they cannot have claimed you as a dependent on their tax returns for the year prior to your petitioning for in-state tuition (the year in which you attend school). Residency is granted when these procedures are followed, making UC law schools cheaper in their final two years."

That was from the TLS guide on it. Unfortunately, I am not the best source since I have been out of school for some time so I am independent haha. I would talk to Dean Schwartz about it as he would give you a straight answer I am sure.

[bamb00zled]

First time poster here. UCLA is my top choice. Just curious what kind of scholarships have been going out this year...anyone get 100k+ in merit?

both numbers between median and 75th and I got 75K

Over 75th lsat, 50th GPA here with 90K

Well over both 75th, offered 80K. Not very generous. Why are they offering so much less than T14s??
Is this a bargaining game?

Over 75th GPA and just barely under 75th LSAT here with 90k merit

100K, 172 and 3.75

Not sure if I'm going to take it but they've made themselves a serious contender

[ramybamy]

I think the reason that we are all getting lower scholarship offers is because of their guaranteed tuition lock..

[87mm]

I think the reason that we are all getting lower scholarship offers is because of their guaranteed tuition lock..

I don't think that is necessarily the case. It shouldn't raise much without it. I think that it's because there are more small scholarships handed out possibly. Seems like applications were much higher this cycle so they sent more acceptances than normal.

[beckett]

Am I missing something or has UCLA just kind of stopped accepting people? I haven't been following this thread super religiously, but there don't seem to be a lot of people reporting movement of any sort.

[Danimals18]

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[katalina1]

I just got the call you guys-- in to UCLA and Epstein! My GPA was bad (below 25th) and my LSAT wasn't great (165) but I have several years of really good law-focused/public interest work experience, including working abroad for a while. I'm thrilled to be the exception to the "numbers are all that matter" rule.

I am so, SO psyched.

[LShopeful2016]

I just got the call you guys-- in to UCLA and Epstein! My GPA was bad (below 25th) and my LSAT wasn't great (165) but I have several years of really good law-focused/public interest work experience, including working abroad for a while. I'm thrilled to be the exception to the "numbers are all that matter" rule.

I am so, SO psyched.

Congrats!

Now if only I could get some kind of notification that mine was even being looked at...

[The_Lorax]

I just got the call you guys-- in to UCLA and Epstein! My GPA was bad (below 25th) and my LSAT wasn't great (165) but I have several years of really good law-focused/public interest work experience, including working abroad for a while. I'm thrilled to be the exception to the "numbers are all that matter" rule.

I am so, SO psyched.

Congrats!

Now if only I could get some kind of notification that mine was even being looked at...

x100000.

[capricasixx]

I just got the call you guys-- in to UCLA and Epstein! My GPA was bad (below 25th) and my LSAT wasn't great (165) but I have several years of really good law-focused/public interest work experience, including working abroad for a while. I'm thrilled to be the exception to the "numbers are all that matter" rule.

I am so, SO psyched.

Congrats!

Now if only I could get some kind of notification that mine was even being looked at...

x100000.

This so much.

That's very heartening though - to hear that katalina's softs were taken into account. Crossing fingers and toes the rest of us get some good news soon.

[Dexter97]

Anyone still waiting on money? Should I email them or do you think theyll release another wave soon? I'd like to get the $$$ info soon so I can figure out my ASW options.

[jdanz]

I wonder if a lot of spots are filled... not too much movement as of late

[Danimals18]

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[lawcc88]

I wonder if a lot of spots are filled... not too much movement as of late

I would expect that UCLA is gearing up to send a load of waitlist letters out soon...including one to me

Same.

[SD619]

Seriously considering UCLA after the scholly offer landed at 70k but that's just not quite enough to pull me from upper schools yet. The issue is negotiation. Does UCLA negotiate with t-14 acceptances? I'd go if I could get closer to 100k... How I dream of living in Westwood for 3 years- it's really beautiful in my opinion

[proteinshake]

how does negotiating with UCLA work? do I just send an email or do I have to write something up in a word doc? also, is it too soon to negotiate?

[GrayGamut]

Withdrew today. Hoping I freed up some $$ to land with a TLSer. Good luck with negotiations!

[shakha]

Withdrew today. Hoping I freed up some $$ to land with a TLSer. Good luck with negotiations!

Ah hopefully you can tell them to give it to me got my scholarship offer today and it was... not very generous to say the least. i'm so distraught as to what to do, i dont think i'll be receiving need-aid and I already showed them my offers to other schools. anyone else have any idea what to do now ?

[HawkeyeVodka34]

Is it generally advised to wait until I receive an email about my aid to start trying to negotiate, or should I start the conversation?

[Dexter97]

Is it generally advised to wait until I receive an email about my aid to start trying to negotiate, or should I start the conversation?

Wondering the same thing over here. I keep receiving info about admitted students events but I want to know the $$$ info first!

[capricasixx]

So this morning I'm unable to load the status checker using the link I've been visiting from my bookmarks 5x/day for the past two months. Of course I'm taking this as a sign that something is happening with my app, even though I know that's ridiculous. Anybody else having trouble accessing?

[jyo78]

Am I missing something or has UCLA just kind of stopped accepting people? I haven't been following this thread super religiously, but there don't seem to be a lot of people reporting movement of any sort.

They offered me a late waiver to apply so I sent mine in on about March 5th I think. I didn't apply the first round because I had applied to USC because I thought I had a better chance of getting in and Texas which I would prefer and seems to let in similar applicants to UCLA. I wonder if they didn't have as many applications as they had hoped for at the deadline and wanted to try to just get more applicants in before starting to really make decisions. Maybe? Wishful thinking? probably..

[jdanz]

So this morning I'm unable to load the status checker using the link I've been visiting from my bookmarks 5x/day for the past two months. Of course I'm taking this as a sign that something is happening with my app, even though I know that's ridiculous. Anybody else having trouble accessing?

I think a few law school status checkers are having problems. Might be an lsac thing.

[capricasixx]

So this morning I'm unable to load the status checker using the link I've been visiting from my bookmarks 5x/day for the past two months. Of course I'm taking this as a sign that something is happening with my app, even though I know that's ridiculous. Anybody else having trouble accessing?

I think a few law school status checkers are having problems. Might be an lsac thing.