William & Mary c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013) Forum

[wannabelawstudent]

Black Tuesday guys. See you tomorrow.

Not necessarily, I dunno where you got the noon time, but here's what I found:

2012 - 2:04 pm Eastern
2011 - 1:23 pm Eastern
2010 - 4:14 pm Eastern

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1300
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=2075
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1750

[2012Lsatscore]

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[wannabelawstudent]

Right yeah, I don't think it will be today. But, I mean, look at the times in that thread, granted I was just saying 2 hours later which is just about passed anyways, but is there a chance you don't have the forum set to the right time (I didn't for a while and was an hour off).

[2012Lsatscore]

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[wannabelawstudent]

Is the time in this post the time right now. It's like right here----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^

[2012Lsatscore]

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[ironbmike]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

[lhanvt13]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

Where are you getting ur school funded? It says 0 for me

[wannabelawstudent]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

Where are you getting ur school funded? It says 0 for me

He incorrectly linked the wrong report

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/employ ... /index.php

[InBetweenDays]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

Where are you getting ur school funded? It says 0 for me

He incorrectly linked the wrong report

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/employ ... /index.php

US News 2014 Report says that 21% of graduates are employed at university funded positions after graduation.

[lhanvt13]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

Where are you getting ur school funded? It says 0 for me

He incorrectly linked the wrong report

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/employ ... /index.php

Good Jesus that's a lot

[ironbmike]

I thought W&M didn't employ graduates? Or at least it didn't for the 2011 class. Now for the 2012 class there is a huge increase in full time, long term, bar required jobs (55% up to 74%), but it looks like 41 of those are funded by the university? That drops the number to 53%...

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... ummary.pdf

Why does W&M have such terrible numbers? Richmond has better employment numbers!

Where are you getting ur school funded? It says 0 for me

He incorrectly linked the wrong report

http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/employ ... /index.php

Good Jesus that's a lot

Sorry yeah meant to link this one: http://law.wm.edu/careerservices/docume ... 0FINAL.pdf

I mean, 53%? That worries me.

[wannabelawstudent]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

[ironbmike]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

[InBetweenDays]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

Opinion of national reach for Wake as compared to W&M?

[wannabelawstudent]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

Richmond hasn't released their class of 2012 data yet.

[ironbmike]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

Richmond hasn't released their class of 2012 data yet.

True. But I'm using 2011. W&M actually went down in 2012, perhaps Richmond did too.

[ironbmike]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

Opinion of national reach for Wake as compared to W&M?

Not sure, I haven't looked at Wake. W&M doesn't have a huge national pull but regionally it does. ~35% of grads end up in VA, and ~35% end up in the surrounding states.

[bamdog]

Thanks for pointing that out (by the way Richmond does NOT have better numbers).

Not by much, but I think they're at 59%. However W&M has a much larger regional pull whereas Richmond is very local.

Opinion of national reach for Wake as compared to W&M?

i would say from all ive learned about wake it might be more of a southeast regional school, not so much of a national school. their admissions staff is very nice and they have a beautiful campus though if these things are important to you. but honestly im not sure how much of a national reach W&M really has either.

[wannabelawstudent]

True. But I'm using 2011. W&M actually went down in 2012, perhaps Richmond did too.

You're probably unaware of this, but for the Class of 2012 they change the way schools have to report their employment data. Where as for the class of 2011 they had the option for the old way vs new way. So it's not an increase in school funded jobs as just being accurately reported.

[ironbmike]

True. But I'm using 2011. W&M actually went down in 2012, perhaps Richmond did too.

You're probably unaware of this, but for the Class of 2012 they change the way schools have to report their employment data. Where as for the class of 2011 they had the option for the old way vs new way. So it's not an increase in school funded jobs as just being accurately reported.

Oh interesting. How does it affect the numbers? What is the change?

[wannabelawstudent]

True. But I'm using 2011. W&M actually went down in 2012, perhaps Richmond did too.

You're probably unaware of this, but for the Class of 2012 they change the way schools have to report their employment data. Where as for the class of 2011 they had the option for the old way vs new way. So it's not an increase in school funded jobs as just being accurately reported.

Oh interesting. How does it affect the numbers? What is the change?

Well I mean, like you posted, they didn't have to post any information regarding school funded jobs last year. Where as this year they do. Also other data, like JD required, law firm size etc etc. More emphasis on full time long term legal jobs.

http://advisein.wordpress.com/2011/07/2 ... pplicants/

[ironbmike]

True. But I'm using 2011. W&M actually went down in 2012, perhaps Richmond did too.

You're probably unaware of this, but for the Class of 2012 they change the way schools have to report their employment data. Where as for the class of 2011 they had the option for the old way vs new way. So it's not an increase in school funded jobs as just being accurately reported.

Oh interesting. How does it affect the numbers? What is the change?

Well I mean, like you posted, they didn't have to post any information regarding school funded jobs last year. Where as this year they do. Also other data, like JD required, law firm size etc etc. More emphasis on full time long term legal jobs.

http://advisein.wordpress.com/2011/07/2 ... pplicants/

Ah yes I see. Well regardless, there are some really poor numbers out there.

[wannabelawstudent]

Ah yes I see. Well regardless, there are some really poor numbers out there.

Right, I was just shocked at the Richmond comment. Based on the USNWR data they aren't even close.

[ironbmike]

Ah yes I see. Well regardless, there are some really poor numbers out there.

Right, I was just shocked at the Richmond comment. Based on the USNWR data they aren't even close.

I still think Richmond is higher, no? http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=va

Either way it's splitting hairs.