Berkeley C/O 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[fliptrip]

Faculty review as well... UR on 12/21.

At least we have a concrete date to wait for—though how accurate has that estimation been in the past?

I remember last year that the FR crew heard right on the day Dean Tom told us to expect it.

That's reassuring. It's nice of them to give us this tiny piece of solace to counterbalance the heaping plate of anxiety they just served up.

Oh even though they don't think much of me, I do have great respect for the Berkeley admissions office. I've only experienced them as professional and exceptionally well organized.

[MrR10]

As Kendrick Lamar once said "It's gonna be alright." Really don't freak out. Ton's of people get in out of FR.

"Concurrent to this review process we also identify about 1400 to 1600 other applications that are very competitive, and these we send to our faculty admissions committee, comprised of 6 faculty and 12 students. Students serve in an advising capacity on the committee. I admit roughly 550 people through what I call the administrative review process, and the admissions committee (the faculty committee) admits about another 200 or so."

So roughly 12-15% of people get admitted from FR. The rest end up as denials or wait-lists. The odds aren't great.

According to LSN Berkeley's acceptance rate is 12% so that would seem consistent, and now you're in a smaller pool of applicants (albeit probably similar ones)

I went FR too. My feelings are quite ambivalent at the moment, but I don't think it's as bad as we think. If anything, we fall in the "1400 to 1600 other applications" that are relatively competitive. I would assume that many of the 550 people that are outright accepted through the administrative review process are those that are also competitive at schools like the T-6 and may not opt to go to Berkeley anyhow. Of course, this is all speculative.

[gobears!!]

As Kendrick Lamar once said "It's gonna be alright." Really don't freak out. Ton's of people get in out of FR.

"Concurrent to this review process we also identify about 1400 to 1600 other applications that are very competitive, and these we send to our faculty admissions committee, comprised of 6 faculty and 12 students. Students serve in an advising capacity on the committee. I admit roughly 550 people through what I call the administrative review process, and the admissions committee (the faculty committee) admits about another 200 or so."

So roughly 12-15% of people get admitted from FR. The rest end up as denials or wait-lists. The odds aren't great.

According to LSN Berkeley's acceptance rate is 12% so that would seem consistent, and now you're in a smaller pool of applicants (albeit probably similar ones)

I went FR too. My feelings are quite ambivalent at the moment, but I don't think it's as bad as we think. If anything, we fall in the "1400 to 1600 other applications" that are relatively competitive. I would assume that many of the 550 people that are outright accepted through the administrative review process are those that are also competitive at schools like the T-6 and may not opt to go to Berkeley anyhow. Of course, this is all speculative.

You also have to remember that there are two FR phases and that this is the first. The odds are probably slightly better out of FR1 than the second batch of FR2 since more spots are open. And I second the above comment regarding many of the administrative review admits being students that get into T6 schools. As another note Berkeley has moved through substantial portions of the waitlist in previous years. But we aren't there yet to have to worry.

[Keilz]

Also, is FR the punishment we December applicants get for not getting our apps in by mid-November like Dean Tom told us to?

Oh man, I've been keeping up with you since we have the same dates and we've both been posting a lot here - I didn't get anything! that's more of a punishment as I expect the impending doom of outright rejection tomorrow - godspeed

I don't think you should be too worried! I've been keeping an eye on the spreadsheet and it seems like today is the first response anyone with around our dates or later has heard. Good luck!

true, that's the one piece of hope I've been hanging on to...

[skimmilk]

As Kendrick Lamar once said "It's gonna be alright." Really don't freak out. Ton's of people get in out of FR.

"Concurrent to this review process we also identify about 1400 to 1600 other applications that are very competitive, and these we send to our faculty admissions committee, comprised of 6 faculty and 12 students. Students serve in an advising capacity on the committee. I admit roughly 550 people through what I call the administrative review process, and the admissions committee (the faculty committee) admits about another 200 or so."

So roughly 12-15% of people get admitted from FR. The rest end up as denials or wait-lists. The odds aren't great.

According to LSN Berkeley's acceptance rate is 12% so that would seem consistent, and now you're in a smaller pool of applicants (albeit probably similar ones)

This. Admittance into Berkeley in general= poor odds.

Anyone know if there is an advantage to being in the first pool of FRs as compared to possible later waves?

[clarf]

If anyone is interested in seeing the FR decisions from last year:

http://berkeley.lawschoolnumbers.com/ap ... t=decision.

They continue to page 3 or so. Just at a glance, it looks like odds are slightly better if you're first wave.

[skimmilk]

If anyone is interested in seeing the FR decisions from last year:

http://berkeley.lawschoolnumbers.com/ap ... t=decision.

They continue to page 3 or so. Just at a glance, it looks like odds are slightly better if you're first wave.

How do you know which applicants went to FR? Are you guessing based on the dates or does it mention FR somewhere and I just am not noticing it? Thanks!

[clarf]

If anyone is interested in seeing the FR decisions from last year:

http://berkeley.lawschoolnumbers.com/ap ... t=decision.

They continue to page 3 or so. Just at a glance, it looks like odds are slightly better if you're first wave.

How do you know which applicants went to FR? Are you guessing based on the dates or does it mention FR somewhere and I just am not noticing it? Thanks!

Yeah, so the first wave is 2/6/15 or so, and the second wave is 2/26/15. You can see mass admits/denials/waitlists on those days.

[skimmilk]

If anyone is interested in seeing the FR decisions from last year:

http://berkeley.lawschoolnumbers.com/ap ... t=decision.

They continue to page 3 or so. Just at a glance, it looks like odds are slightly better if you're first wave.

How do you know which applicants went to FR? Are you guessing based on the dates or does it mention FR somewhere and I just am not noticing it? Thanks!

Yeah, so the first wave is 2/6/15 or so, and the second wave is 2/26/15. You can see mass admits/denials/waitlists on those days.

I see what you mean. Also it does look as if you are probably right. FR1 applicants seemed more likely to be admitted than FR2 applicants.

[Keilz]

I've been looking at last years thread and some people applied like mid November and never got any notifications at all until getting dinged in late February, I don't think I can wait that long, my email refresh button can't handle the clicks

[Budfox55]

So if we are UR 12/21 and didn't get FR... is there any hope?

+1 let's stick together

UR 12/21 and no FR. If us 12/21ers don't get accepted within the next week or so I'm fairly certain we will get dinged sometime after FR1 gets their results back

+3. Ugh, I hope its good news.

[ProductofUnreality]

Went complete like 12/16. Just now went under review.

[hammocklv06]

So if we are UR 12/21 and didn't get FR... is there any hope?

+1 let's stick together

UR 12/21 and no FR. If us 12/21ers don't get accepted within the next week or so I'm fairly certain we will get dinged sometime after FR1 gets their results back

+3. Ugh, I hope its good news.

I'm still at no movement since mid October and I might go insane. I've heard from almost every other school I applied to.

[icantwait]

Went complete like 12/16. Just now went under review.

+1

[nicknar]

So, this is total speculation, but wondering what everyone's opinion is. As has been said, percentage-wise the acceptance rate out of FR is more or less the same as Berkeley's rate overall. But, outside of just percentage, do people think that it's more competitive, due to the fact that there are no presumptive rejects in the FR pool and everyone has at least a decently strong app, or is it less competitive because there are no presumptive admits in FR to compete with?

[CerealMilk]

So, this is total speculation, but wondering what everyone's opinion is. As has been said, percentage-wise the acceptance rate out of FR is more or less the same as Berkeley's rate overall. But, outside of just percentage, do people think that it's more competitive, due to the fact that there are no presumptive rejects in the FR pool and everyone has at least a decently strong app, or is it less competitive because there are no presumptive admits in FR to compete with?

I think it's a wash if you assume the pool of auto admits and auto rejects cancel each other out

[Draconem]

When will Berkeley send out rejections/waitlists and put me out of my misery?

[JD116]

So, this is total speculation, but wondering what everyone's opinion is. As has been said, percentage-wise the acceptance rate out of FR is more or less the same as Berkeley's rate overall. But, outside of just percentage, do people think that it's more competitive, due to the fact that there are no presumptive rejects in the FR pool and everyone has at least a decently strong app, or is it less competitive because there are no presumptive admits in FR to compete with?

I've been thinking about this as well. I'm inclined to say that the FR pool really is where softs become the name of the game in addition to expressed interest in Berkeley. They probably see the pool as the primary source of tuition payment because they won't be offering the sort of scholarships they did to the presumptive admits. So the goal is to identify the applications that are both interesting and likely to end up at Berkeley.

Just my three cents.

[clarf]

So, this is total speculation, but wondering what everyone's opinion is. As has been said, percentage-wise the acceptance rate out of FR is more or less the same as Berkeley's rate overall. But, outside of just percentage, do people think that it's more competitive, due to the fact that there are no presumptive rejects in the FR pool and everyone has at least a decently strong app, or is it less competitive because there are no presumptive admits in FR to compete with?

I've been thinking about this as well. I'm inclined to say that the FR pool really is where softs become the name of the game in addition to expressed interest in Berkeley. They probably see the pool as the primary source of tuition payment because they won't be offering the sort of scholarships they did to the presumptive admits. So the goal is to identify the applications that are both interesting and likely to end up at Berkeley.

Just my three cents.

Judging from last year's FR admits, numbers are still playing a huge role here.

http://berkeley.lawschoolnumbers.com/ap ... t=decision

I'm sure softs matter more in FR than they did in AR, but there's a clear trend with higher numbers making it past FR more so than lower numbers.

[KiltedKicker]

Anyone receive a CalCentral login yet? I asked them right before the New Year and they said it'd be coming last week, I'm anxious to login and play around. I don't want to bug them again though, so I'm curious if anyone has heard anything

[urbanist11]

Anyone receive a CalCentral login yet? I asked them right before the New Year and they said it'd be coming last week, I'm anxious to login and play around. I don't want to bug them again though, so I'm curious if anyone has heard anything

Reading my mind. I've resigned myself to thinking we will get it like the day before ASW starts or something.

[urbanist11]

Anyone receive a CalCentral login yet? I asked them right before the New Year and they said it'd be coming last week, I'm anxious to login and play around. I don't want to bug them again though, so I'm curious if anyone has heard anything

Reading my mind. I've resigned myself to thinking we will get it like the day before ASW starts or something.

...and just got the login info in an email. If you are reading this admissions folks, thank you

[KiltedKicker]

Anyone receive a CalCentral login yet? I asked them right before the New Year and they said it'd be coming last week, I'm anxious to login and play around. I don't want to bug them again though, so I'm curious if anyone has heard anything

Reading my mind. I've resigned myself to thinking we will get it like the day before ASW starts or something.

...and just got the login info in an email. If you are reading this admissions folks, thank you

Haha me too, that's a hell of a coincidence. Excited to check this out once I get off work

[Keilz]

Was hoping for a miraculous day 2 of action today this waiting is torture

[gryffinclaw]

Was hoping for a miraculous day 2 of action today this waiting is torture

Tell me about it...I was so excited to get the FR email at first and then it dawned on me that it just meant more waiting as well as a higher chance of rejection, perhaps? Oh well, misery loves company