Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[tflan19]

Do any of the admits have the schedule (or even just the dates) of any/all Admitted Students programs for 2016? I'm far from assuming that I will be admitted, but I'm planning what will be my only trip to the East Coast of the cycle and I'm trying to preserve the possibility of attending a program at Yale if I can make it work with my schedule. Thanks!

The only remaining program is ASW, which is 4/14-15

[linguafranca90]

So is there a consensus on what it means (if anything) if you were an early applier and didn't get dinged on Saturday? WL?

[gamerish]

So is there a consensus on what it means (if anything) if you were an early applier and didn't get dinged on Saturday? WL?

I don't know anything about how Yale's faculty review works but my personal head canon is that it's just a difference in which members of the faculty got assigned certain applications. Maybe some are slower evaluators, maybe some disagree about an applicant, etc. IIRC, Yale's waitlist is quite small so I don't think it suggests we're all getting pushed over to it rather than that a consensus just hasn't been reached about our apps yet.

I could certainly be 100% wrong, that's just my theory.

The splitter speculation I put forth earlier still seems to be holding true based on LSN so that could be another potential explanation (though I'm a splitter for Yale myself, so maybe not).

[Euthyphro]

So is there a consensus on what it means (if anything) if you were an early applier and didn't get dinged on Saturday? WL?

My guess is that first dings were for applicants who didn't make it into faculty review.

According to the admissions blog, Asha admits 60~80 people straight from the pile ('presumptive admits'), and sends about 25% to faculty committees (~1000), of which about 20% would be admitted (~200). That means that 70%+ of applicants are neither presumptive admits nor faculty review candidates. So they could be accepting all presumptive admits plus people who score 12/12 on faculty review, while rejecting everyone who didn't make the first cut, with the unreviewed and faculty-reviewed non-twelvers hanging in limbo.

Of course, it could just be that us early appiers' files ended up in the piles of professors who take their time. So I'm going to just believe that and have faith that we're all destined for 12/12.
... Pretty please?

[Olliedemars]

So is there a consensus on what it means (if anything) if you were an early applier and didn't get dinged on Saturday? WL?

My guess is that first dings were for applicants who didn't make it into faculty review.

According to the admissions blog, Asha admits 60~80 people straight from the pile ('presumptive admits'), and sends about 25% to faculty committees (~1000), of which about 20% would be admitted (~200). That means that 70%+ of applicants are neither presumptive admits nor faculty review candidates. So they could be accepting all presumptive admits plus people who score 12/12 on faculty review, while rejecting everyone who didn't make the first cut, with the unreviewed and faculty-reviewed non-twelvers hanging in limbo.

Of course, it could just be that us early appiers' files ended up in the piles of professors who take their time. So I'm going to just believe that and have faith that we're all destined for 12/12.
... Pretty please?

I'd agree, but 70% of applicants didn't just get cut. That would've been a ding wave of several thousand & I don't think we saw that.

I also can't imagine there are many files that haven't been reviewed--there were a few people who got dinged that went complete late January.

I'd love to think nearly all applicants who haven't been dinged are under FR--I just doubt it based on how many folks appear to be still in the running.

[gamerish]

Numbers do not become irrelevant just because you get passed onto the full faculty review. It really depends on the faculty members reading your file. Some faculty are sticklers for the LSAT or your undergrad GPA. Some are more into your story. Some care only about what your recommenders say, because they feel that every other part of your application has been doctored. Some read every LSAT writing sample, and swear by it. It really depends on the combo of faculty reviewing your application which factors matter most.

God help us all

[williamtell]

It seems to me, all the presumptive admits must have gone out, and there is no way that FR files haven't already been sent out.it seems likely that denials have In fact gone out unless they just haven't gotten to all the denials because of time constraints which seems unlikely as well. After all how long does it take to send out "mass emails"?

[Hildegard15]

It seems to me, all the presumptive admits must have gone out, and there is no way that FR files haven't already been sent out.it seems likely that denials have In fact gone out unless they just haven't gotten to all the denials because of time constraints which seems unlikely as well. After all how long does it take to send out "mass emails"?

We've only had one wave of rejections, I think there's still plenty more to come. Plus, I feel very confident that my denial is imminent.

[Riversend]

It seems to me, all the presumptive admits must have gone out, and there is no way that FR files haven't already been sent out.it seems likely that denials have In fact gone out unless they just haven't gotten to all the denials because of time constraints which seems unlikely as well. After all how long does it take to send out "mass emails"?

We've only had one wave of rejections, I think there's still plenty more to come. Plus, I feel very confident that my denial is imminent.

A lot of February applications likely still to be read as well.

[Euthyphro]

I'd agree, but 70% of applicants didn't just get cut. That would've been a ding wave of several thousand & I don't think we saw that.

I also can't imagine there are many files that haven't been reviewed--there were a few people who got dinged that went complete late January.

I'd love to think nearly all applicants who haven't been dinged are under FR--I just doubt it based on how many folks appear to be still in the running.

True. I definitely agree that the numbers were too small to have been a blanket ding for all candidates who didnt make it to faculty review thus far.

Though, it could also be that Saturday's rejection wave actually was massive. There seems to have been roughly 100~150 people on LSN who report rejection from Yale each year (from a sum total of ~3,000), and there have already been 30+ reports from the last ding wave. Of course, it's not exactly the ideal sample, but it's very possible that around a 1,000 people were just rejected. There also were more people who report having applied January~February (182 for 2013-2015) compared to those who applied October~December (137 for 13-15).

Overall, I don't think it's out of the question that they just dinged everyone whom they decided wasn't going to be in faculty review from October-December files, as well as many of the January applicants. It could be that even the applications that don't get a faculty review are in two-tiers: (1) definitely not headed for faculty review and (2) held to determine if it makes it to the review.

[pterodactyls]

Numbers do not become irrelevant just because you get passed onto the full faculty review. It really depends on the faculty members reading your file. Some faculty are sticklers for the LSAT or your undergrad GPA. Some are more into your story. Some care only about what your recommenders say, because they feel that every other part of your application has been doctored. Some read every LSAT writing sample, and swear by it. It really depends on the combo of faculty reviewing your application which factors matter most.

God help us all

haha I forgot the LSAT writing sample even existed.

[EnderWiggin]

In reading the LSN tea leaves, keep in mind that YLS consistently has the smallest applicant pool of all T14 schools. No idea what this year looks like yet obviously, but last cycle there were 2809 applicants (2015 ABA 509 report says 2767). Total number of apps has not topped 3000 since 2011.

[Hank William Shatner]

Ding on 3/12 via email. Good luck to the rest of y'all!

[bluebook22]

There was a wave of acceptances during spring break last year! Fingers crossed for this year.

[EnderWiggin]

when Yale decides to tell me no on my app, at least I will remember this moment and know that it was never meant to be because neither of us believed in one another #bracketbusted

[theconsigliere]

when Yale decides to tell me no on my app, at least I will remember this moment and know that it was never meant to be because neither of us believed in one another #bracketbusted

I picked Yale b/c I'm hoping they will reciprocate the love

[dogday793]

when Yale decides to tell me no on my app, at least I will remember this moment and know that it was never meant to be because neither of us believed in one another #bracketbusted

Lmao I had Baylor in the final four...

[Riversend]

Two weeks since last round of calls, here's hoping this weekend brings good news.

[bluebook22]

Anyone else have a good feeling about today?

[theconsigliere]

Anyone else have a good feeling about today?

I shouldn't speak for everyone else, but I'll give it a shot: "no"

[bluebook22]

:/

[Olliedemars]

Anyone else have a good feeling about today?

Today as a day in and of itself, yes; today as the day YLS launches some acceptances, mayyybe.

[theconsigliere]

:/

sorry

[dizzystpizzy]

Calls going out, announced on Twitter about 30 mins ago!

[Hamburglar]

Do international students get calls?