So what happens when you enter biglaw and a skaddenbro starts bullying you there as wellthatlawlkid wrote:Obvious solution is to act subservient and meek, provide him with tons of outlines (plot twist: theyre terrible and wrong), BOOM he strikes out at OCI and you laugh your way to employmentThelaw23 wrote:I have honestly never heard of bullying in a graduate school idkHennessyVSOP wrote:obviously thisThelaw23 wrote: What do you expect he's going to do? Continue bullying other students at 23 years old while in law school? Confront him and call him a *****.
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you tell him to cash you ousside.Thelaw23 wrote:So what happens when you enter biglaw and a skaddenbro starts bullying you there as wellthatlawlkid wrote:Obvious solution is to act subservient and meek, provide him with tons of outlines (plot twist: theyre terrible and wrong), BOOM he strikes out at OCI and you laugh your way to employmentThelaw23 wrote:I have honestly never heard of bullying in a graduate school idkHennessyVSOP wrote:obviously thisThelaw23 wrote: What do you expect he's going to do? Continue bullying other students at 23 years old while in law school? Confront him and call him a *****.
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staple a porkchop to the bottom of his deskSybillAnnDorsett wrote:you tell him to cash you ousside.Thelaw23 wrote:So what happens when you enter biglaw and a skaddenbro starts bullying you there as wellthatlawlkid wrote:Obvious solution is to act subservient and meek, provide him with tons of outlines (plot twist: theyre terrible and wrong), BOOM he strikes out at OCI and you laugh your way to employmentThelaw23 wrote:I have honestly never heard of bullying in a graduate school idkHennessyVSOP wrote:obviously thisThelaw23 wrote: What do you expect he's going to do? Continue bullying other students at 23 years old while in law school? Confront him and call him a *****.
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does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
i think about this a lot
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nawh, my sister is an artist and her life sucks. I figure everyone is miserable, if they arent then they're delusional, and its better to be sad with money and status. YMMV though.HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
i think about this a lot
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Not usually artists but everyone around me is passionate about their jobs and it makes my current one suck even more. At least I know now to chase the litigation/pi dragon and not just default to transactional work.HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
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bullying in adult life obviously looks different from bullying in high school or middle school.
the essence of the act is still the same - you aim to degrade someone else, and it is driven likely by your own unsolved insecurities, many of which are so deep-seated you've yet to confront them. this is obviously an issue which knows no age limit; there are bullies in all age categories.
there are people who set out in adult life, in any work setting, in any career, to degrade others. and I think if you engaged in that sort of behavior in high school, you've at least developed a predisposition for that behavior which could follow you in your adult life.
Though we agree that Stylantor should not allow for someone to manipulate her life and decide where she should attend law school, it is more than fair, in my opinion, for her to be concerned about someone whose questionable behavior in the past could manifest again, to her detriment. and I think there's nothing wrong with following the "non-factor" advice I gave Stylnator. If someone doesn't exist for you, they have no power over you. That's how you can handle the bully in high school or the bully at Skadden.
the essence of the act is still the same - you aim to degrade someone else, and it is driven likely by your own unsolved insecurities, many of which are so deep-seated you've yet to confront them. this is obviously an issue which knows no age limit; there are bullies in all age categories.
there are people who set out in adult life, in any work setting, in any career, to degrade others. and I think if you engaged in that sort of behavior in high school, you've at least developed a predisposition for that behavior which could follow you in your adult life.
Though we agree that Stylantor should not allow for someone to manipulate her life and decide where she should attend law school, it is more than fair, in my opinion, for her to be concerned about someone whose questionable behavior in the past could manifest again, to her detriment. and I think there's nothing wrong with following the "non-factor" advice I gave Stylnator. If someone doesn't exist for you, they have no power over you. That's how you can handle the bully in high school or the bully at Skadden.
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Not in an artistic circle, but a highly unconventional career non-legal one and yeah.HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
i think about this a lot
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Stylinator will play it by ear but literally ignoring the dude just for past wrongs is immature as hell. It's been 6(?) years. He has probably grown the fuck up or at the very least is tactful enough to not bully a fellow law student.
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My significant other is a ballerina and is amazingly committed and painstakingly toned and fit for her work.
My roommate is an illustrator for children's television shows, and spend longs night poring over gif-creation and mock-ups of characters and food styling for marketing.
My best friend is a rapper, painter, trumpeter, and works for a non-profit doing prison reform work.
and i'm just hoping to be a public defender
My roommate is an illustrator for children's television shows, and spend longs night poring over gif-creation and mock-ups of characters and food styling for marketing.
My best friend is a rapper, painter, trumpeter, and works for a non-profit doing prison reform work.
and i'm just hoping to be a public defender
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Oh shit. I thought you were gay. Please ignore my comment in the lounge from when you picwhored. My b.HennessyVSOP wrote:.
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i am bi/queerRigo wrote:Oh shit. I thought you were gay. Please ignore my comment in the lounge from when you picwhored. My b.HennessyVSOP wrote:.
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You're making assumptions but I don't disagree with playing it by ear. I think if you've not been bullied as a target you really have no idea. Ignoring is the kindest version of a "fuck you" and frankly we don't all need to be best friends. Life isn't like that. We may be forced in a work setting to collaborate with nasty people but I don't need to befriend or even speak to a bully nor must I assume that he's changed after some time during what are arguably the three most difficult years I've yet faced.Rigo wrote:Stylinator will play it by ear but literally ignoring the dude just for past wrongs is immature as hell. It's been 6 years. He has probably grown the fuck up or at the very least is tactful enough to not bully a fellow law student.
It's also a matter of opinion I guess, but it's not immature to just ignore somebody you've no interest in speaking to. It costs me no time or energy to ignore - time and energy spent making friends worth making.
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What has kept me going through some pretty shit jobs and life events is keeping this thing in mind lol. Everyone is miserable, no one is truly "fulfilled" in their job, nor do their jobs fill that certain void we all have inside of us. So get in where you fit in and at least get paid and be comfortable in your suffering.thatlawlkid wrote:nawh, my sister is an artist and her life sucks. I figure everyone is miserable, if they arent then they're delusional, and its better to be sad with money and status. YMMV though.HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
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Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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I don't know. As someone who considered an artistic career and ultimately decided not to pursue it, I don't have any regrets. I think my skills are better suited to law and the work is more meaningful/rewarding for me personally even if it is "paper-pushing".HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
i think about this a lot
I think people in creative fields have a similar struggle in reverse, too, if that makes sense. It's hard and you have to be really dedicated and do a lot of grinding. I realized I was happier having my creative pursuits as just hobbies rather than a job because I wasn't cut out for the kind of work it takes to be a successful artist, and I enjoy them more this way.
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Yes it is immature if that person is in the same setting as you and you'll inevitably interact sometimes.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:You're making assumptions but I don't disagree with playing it by ear. I think if you've not been bullied as a target you really have no idea. Ignoring is the kindest version of a "fuck you" and frankly we don't all need to be best friends. Life isn't like that. We may be forced in a work setting to collaborate with nasty people but I don't need to befriend or even speak to a bully nor must I assume that he's changed after some time during what are arguably the three most difficult years I've yet faced.Rigo wrote:Stylinator will play it by ear but literally ignoring the dude just for past wrongs is immature as hell. It's been 6 years. He has probably grown the fuck up or at the very least is tactful enough to not bully a fellow law student.
It's also a matter of opinion I guess, but it's not immature to just ignore somebody you've no interest in speaking to. It costs me no time or energy to ignore - time and energy spent making friends worth making.
There's a thing called being cordial. If stylinator shows up day 1 and acts like he doesn't exist without even giving him a chance then that's weird AF and doesn't reflect well on her.
If I were a betting man I bet this guy def doesn't want to drag shit from high school into law school.
I could def seeing them bonding and being friends. You gotta give people chances.
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Not acting like this nor saying any of this, but okay dude.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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That's why I didn't @ you with this message dudeRigo wrote:Not acting like this nor saying any of this, but okay dude.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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It's all about just being happy with you. Jobs are jobs, they aren't meant to make you happy, they provide you with a means to pursue your happiness financially.Assasindowntheavenue wrote:What has kept me going through some pretty shit jobs and life events is keeping this thing in mind lol. Everyone is miserable, no one is truly "fulfilled" in their job, nor do their jobs fill that certain void we all have inside of us. So get in where you fit in and at least get paid and be comfortable in your suffering.thatlawlkid wrote:nawh, my sister is an artist and her life sucks. I figure everyone is miserable, if they arent then they're delusional, and its better to be sad with money and status. YMMV though.HennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
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Okay well literally nobody did this.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:That's why I didn't @ you with this message dudeRigo wrote:Not acting like this nor saying any of this, but okay dude.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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I work so that I will have money to do the things I'm passionate about. That's basically how I reason itHennessyVSOP wrote:does anyone else struggle with that fact that all your acquaintances are artists and performers and they have passions to create and powerful bodies and minds and they have emotional attachment to their work and you're just a paper-pusher who will continue to push paper for the rest of your life and probably have an early-mid-life-crisis and a blossoming alcohol dependency
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It's this deep for you that you're still mentioning me? I think someone did do it, you don't, agree to disagree? Because we won't get anywhere otherwise.Rigo wrote:Okay well literally nobody did this.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:That's why I didn't @ you with this message dudeRigo wrote:Not acting like this nor saying any of this, but okay dude.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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Oh you sure got me there. Not everything is a reality show. Learn some situational awareness and interpersonal skills.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:It's this deep for you that you're still mentioning me? I think someone did do it, you don't, agree to disagree? Because we won't get anywhere otherwise.Rigo wrote:Okay well literally nobody did this.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:That's why I didn't @ you with this message dudeRigo wrote:Not acting like this nor saying any of this, but okay dude.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:Also let's stop acting as if the six year gap means whatever Stylnator went through wasn't serious enough to affect her still today. That six years passed really isn't relevant. If she doesn't want anything to do with the person, we should assume there's a reason for that rather than say "he's probably a diff person so get over it"
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Two years into a cushy paper-pusher job and I can't stand it. Maybe other people like it but I hate feeling like nothing I does matters, not in like a futile way but in like a no one gives a shit whether my work functions are performed.
I'm not trying to attack K-Jds here, but I would be a little weary of any preconceived ideas anyone may have about office work, especially in a support function. Do not underestimate how debilitating it can be feeling like the thing you do for most of your life is insignificant.
I make enough money to do the fun things I want to do, but I don't have enough time to do them all and it certainly doesn't make up for the +1/3 of my entire day I spend hating my job.
Everyone's job sucks, but there is a difference between a job that has it's negatives and a job that drives you to existential crisis.
It can sometimes take a lot of effort to recognize the difference before it's too late.
I'm not trying to attack K-Jds here, but I would be a little weary of any preconceived ideas anyone may have about office work, especially in a support function. Do not underestimate how debilitating it can be feeling like the thing you do for most of your life is insignificant.
I make enough money to do the fun things I want to do, but I don't have enough time to do them all and it certainly doesn't make up for the +1/3 of my entire day I spend hating my job.
Everyone's job sucks, but there is a difference between a job that has it's negatives and a job that drives you to existential crisis.
It can sometimes take a lot of effort to recognize the difference before it's too late.
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