Harvard C/O 2019 Applicants Forum

[panli19]

I see. Thank you both

[ObiWahooKenobi]

From what I recall, only one JS1 was specifically told "after the new year", right? My interviewer said that it could be awhile and not to panic but that they hope to get back to me "sooner rather than later". I'm still entertaining the idea that maybe they just want to stress that their JS1 to JS2 turnaround time isn't as fast as some schools (UVA) and reduce panic? That might be me just desperately attempting to will and rationalize a pre-thanksgiving JS2 though. The insanity will only increase from here

Just finished my JS1 and was told not to expect anything before the New Year

My interviewer said acceptances will start going out around new year, so I was hoping for a Christmas miracle. I could have misheard tho, and it's technically not inconsistent with after new year.

[ObiWahooKenobi]

Also, does anyone know the odds of acceptance if you get an early interview (Oct/Nov)? I've looked at last year's spreadsheet data, but does anyone have any insights?

[Hildegard15]

New poll!

[cantorb]

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[lebongenre]

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[tflan19]

There aren't any upcoming interviews scheduled, right? Maybe we'll actually see some JS2 movement soon then? *crosses impatient fingers*

[Li'l Sebastian]

New poll!

Can we please add an option for "was confident about odds after getting JS1 email but totally bombed the interview"?

I know that's pretty specific but I know at least one vote that will go there....

How did you "bomb" the interview?

[cantorb]

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[Li'l Sebastian]

That does not sound like bombing at all. Maybe fumbling but chill.

[cantorb]

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[Hildegard15]

I would give up my first born for a JS1. Is that not enough HLS?!! What more must I be willing to sacrifice?!

[pittsburghpirates]

I would give up my first born for a JS1. Is that not enough HLS?!! What more must I be willing to sacrifice?!

I'm in the same boat. Just waiting for some love...

[Hildegard15]

I would give up my first born for a JS1. Is that not enough HLS?!! What more must I be willing to sacrifice?!

I'm in the same boat. Just waiting for some love...

I think I submitted a month before you though, so I'm starting to despair. Not many people get JS1 offers after waiting 2+months.

[pittsburghpirates]

I would give up my first born for a JS1. Is that not enough HLS?!! What more must I be willing to sacrifice?!

I'm in the same boat. Just waiting for some love...

I think I submitted a month before you though, so I'm starting to despair. Not many people get JS1 offers after waiting 2+months.

Don't despair! Also if you don't get one I definitely won't so I can't allow you to despair

[Hildegard15]

I'm in the same boat. Just waiting for some love...

I think I submitted a month before you though, so I'm starting to despair. Not many people get JS1 offers after waiting 2+months.

Don't despair! Also if you don't get one I definitely won't so I can't allow you to despair

I've given myself until Friday. And then, if no good news, I am going to forget I ever applied to HLS.

[cantorb]

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[ObiWahooKenobi]

Also, does anyone know the odds of acceptance if you get an early interview (Oct/Nov)? I've looked at last year's spreadsheet data, but does anyone have any insights?

Decided to take a crack at answering my own question based on the 2014-2015 cycle spreadsheet (link below). Of 126 JS1's, 76 (60%) were admitted. Obviously this is a relatively small sample, but it's the best public data I've found.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... fWqcA/edit

[oliverotis]

Also, does anyone know the odds of acceptance if you get an early interview (Oct/Nov)? I've looked at last year's spreadsheet data, but does anyone have any insights?

Decided to take a crack at answering my own question based on the 2014-2015 cycle spreadsheet (link below). Of 126 JS1's, 76 (60%) were admitted. Obviously this is a relatively small sample, but it's the best public data I've found.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... fWqcA/edit

This is misleading, because while 60% reported being admitted, another 35% never updated their status. Probably closer to 75-80% of TLS JS1s actually end up being admitted.

[jetsfan1]

Also, does anyone know the odds of acceptance if you get an early interview (Oct/Nov)? I've looked at last year's spreadsheet data, but does anyone have any insights?

Decided to take a crack at answering my own question based on the 2014-2015 cycle spreadsheet (link below). Of 126 JS1's, 76 (60%) were admitted. Obviously this is a relatively small sample, but it's the best public data I've found.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... fWqcA/edit

This is misleading, because while 60% reported being admitted, another 35% never updated their status. Probably closer to 75-80% of TLS JS1s actually end up being admitted.

Also doesn't account for the timing of the JS1s either, as earlier JS1s tend to have a higher acceptance rate than later ones (I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere but for the life of me can't remember where). Unless you only looked at the Oct/Nov JS1s? A bit unclear from your post, but regardless thanks for digging through the data!

[curious bobcat]

I suspect the estimates above are severely low-balling it. My optimism is obviously self-serving, but here are three reasons why I think the odds are pretty solid for JS1s so far...

1) The 2010 interview with Josh Rubenstein states HLS interviewed about 1,000-1,200 applicants, and they end up offering 900-1,000 acceptances. This puts JS1s, regardless of timing in the cycle, at 75%-95% acceptance. Admittedly, this was five years ago, but I can't find any evidence that they have ramped up their interviewing rate enough to justify the current speculation.

(http://www.top-law-schools.com/josh-rub ... rview.html)


2) According to our spreadsheet, the average numbers for JS1s this cycle is 175/3.88. According to lsn, candidates with those numbers are accepted at an 87% rate.

(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =3&vpid=A1)
(http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.9/lsat-175)


3) A few pages ago, it was mentioned that somebody in last year's applicant thread estimated that Oct/Nov JS1s are accepted at a 95% rate, according to some TLS spreadsheet. Too lazy to go find that post, but it should be a few pages back--presuming it was not deleted.

[tflan19]

JS1s just opened Dec 8-10th!

40ish of them

[EnderWiggin]

JS1!!!

I can hardly breathe.

[benwyatt]

JS1!!!

I can hardly breathe.

Congrats!

[oliverotis]

I suspect the estimates above are severely low-balling it. My optimism is obviously self-serving, but here are three reasons why I think the odds are pretty solid for JS1s so far...

1) The 2010 interview with Josh Rubenstein states HLS interviewed about 1,000-1,200 applicants, and they end up offering 900-1,000 acceptances. This puts JS1s, regardless of timing in the cycle, at 75%-95% acceptance. Admittedly, this was five years ago, but I can't find any evidence that they have ramped up their interviewing rate enough to justify the current speculation.

(http://www.top-law-schools.com/josh-rub ... rview.html)


2) According to our spreadsheet, the average numbers for JS1s this cycle is 175/3.88. According to lsn, candidates with those numbers are accepted at an 87% rate.

(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =3&vpid=A1)
(http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.9/lsat-175)


3) A few pages ago, it was mentioned that somebody in last year's applicant thread estimated that Oct/Nov JS1s are accepted at a 95% rate, according to some TLS spreadsheet. Too lazy to go find that post, but it should be a few pages back--presuming it was not deleted.

Yeah, someone had posted that in last year's thread, based (IIRC) on something like 80% reported admits and divvying up the 'decision pending' applicants based on an average TLS acceptance rate of 60%. Seems like probably an overestimation, since decision pending apps probably skew slightly toward WL/R. Still, I think it's fair to estimate Oct/Nov TLS JS1s are in 85-90% of the time.