Yale c/o 2018 (2014-2015 Applicants) Forum

[DK21]

I wonder why Yale doesn't just go ahead and reject a huge pile of applicants....it seems like there have been very few rejects compared to class size/number of applicants. Does anyone know/have any idea why they are delaying the inevitable?

My guess is they gave the faculty an April 1st [or other arbitrary date] deadline to finish the faculty review and they'll give out responses after that.

Has there been an unusually low number of decisions for this stage of the cycle? I saw a few trickles of admits and rejections, but am not sure if the number was low.

[zhenders]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

[bretby]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

Excellent point, and evidence of why you will get in and I won't.....

[dancer22]

All we can do is wait... and pray through the Yale Marys... Admittedly, was v. excited when I found no rejection email in the inbox. But then, came on TLS to realize that gloriously mundane-message filled inbox doesn't matter...

[zhenders]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

Excellent point, and evidence of why you will get in and I won't.....

Not with MY numbers, friend! My Yale Mary is just as much of a long shot as anyone's!

ETA: you know you're a longshot when you feel as though your entire application is riding on your 250.

[DK21]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

Excellent point, and evidence of why you will get in and I won't.....

Not with MY numbers, friend! My Yale Mary is just as much of a long shot as anyone's!

ETA: you know you're a longshot when you feel as though your entire application is riding on your 250.

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

[tk17]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

Excellent point, and evidence of why you will get in and I won't.....

Not with MY numbers, friend! My Yale Mary is just as much of a long shot as anyone's!

ETA: you know you're a longshot when you feel as though your entire application is riding on your 250.

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Or you could have been good enough to make it to faculty review, been randomly assigned to members of faculty who took a little longer, and scored a 10.

Not saying that's what happened! Just pointing out it's a possibility.

[saddie123]

Fingers crossed!

[HopefulURM]

To be fair, the wait is pretty consistent with an admissions system that isn't rolling; the only way to really do that is to have a pretty strong idea of all of the people you want in before you release the majority of decisions. A small handful of admits/rejects wouldn't impact this, but if they'd sent out 50% of their decisions already, that would end up being a rolling admissions process whether intentional or not, no?

Excellent point, and evidence of why you will get in and I won't.....

Not with MY numbers, friend! My Yale Mary is just as much of a long shot as anyone's!

ETA: you know you're a longshot when you feel as though your entire application is riding on your 250.

+1 Oh my goodness haha. I know that feel so well.

[lawstudent2018]

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Anyone assigned to faculty review will end up with a score 6-12. I've read that professors are guided to give 50% 2s, 25% 3s, 25% 4s. If you're still waiting from the fall you made it to FR, which is good/not an auto-ding, but it is faulty to say that you have an 11 or even a 10. Many amazingly qualified applicants will end up with 2s even after waiting this long.

[hermione1000]

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Anyone assigned to faculty review will end up with a score 6-12. I've read that professors are guided to give 50% 2s, 25% 3s, 25% 4s. If you're still waiting from the fall you made it to FR, which is good/not an auto-ding, but it is faulty to say that you have an 11 or even a 10. Many amazingly qualified applicants will end up with 2s even after waiting this long.

thanks, that's helpful. do we know how they score? is there a metric of a certain percentage LSAT/GPA/softs?

[lawstudent2018]

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Anyone assigned to faculty review will end up with a score 6-12. I've read that professors are guided to give 50% 2s, 25% 3s, 25% 4s. If you're still waiting from the fall you made it to FR, which is good/not an auto-ding, but it is faulty to say that you have an 11 or even a 10. Many amazingly qualified applicants will end up with 2s even after waiting this long.

thanks, that's helpful. do we know how they score? is there a metric of a certain percentage LSAT/GPA/softs?

No metrics or rubrics. They are given latitude to give their score based on any criteria they see relevant to building the best possible class.

[RSN]

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Anyone assigned to faculty review will end up with a score 6-12. I've read that professors are guided to give 50% 2s, 25% 3s, 25% 4s. If you're still waiting from the fall you made it to FR, which is good/not an auto-ding, but it is faulty to say that you have an 11 or even a 10. Many amazingly qualified applicants will end up with 2s even after waiting this long.

thanks, that's helpful. do we know how they score? is there a metric of a certain percentage LSAT/GPA/softs?

No metrics or rubrics. They are given latitude to give their score based on any criteria they see relevant to building the best possible class.

Source? Just curious where you're getting your info.

[tk17]

Source? Just curious where you're getting your info.

Asha's description of the process on her blog has this information.

[WhoReviewedThis]

I suspect this is somewhere in this thread and I'm sorry for the repeat question, but can someone let me know when ASW is?

[RSN]

Source? Just curious where you're getting your info.

Asha's description of the process on her blog has this information.

I'm assuming that's where it's from, but the poster hasn't given any attribution and is writing very authoritatively, so I'm curious

[RSN]

I suspect this is somewhere in this thread and I'm sorry for the repeat question, but can someone let me know when ASW is?

4/16-18

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5&t=244121

[tk17]

Source? Just curious where you're getting your info.

Asha's description of the process on her blog has this information.

I'm assuming that's where it's from, but the poster hasn't given any attribution and is writing very authoritatively, so I'm curious

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yale+law+admissions+faculty+review

[RSN]

Source? Just curious where you're getting your info.

Asha's description of the process on her blog has this information.

I'm assuming that's where it's from, but the poster hasn't given any attribution and is writing very authoritatively, so I'm curious

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yale+law+admissions+faculty+review

Dude, I wasn't asking you, back off.

[anxiousAF]

Can't we all just get along?

[to116]

i like your name ^

[tk17]

Dude, I wasn't asking you, back off.

Sorry to get you all worked up. I was just trying to provide the information you were seeking. I didn't know that you wanted it to come from one specific poster. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[RSN]

Dude, I wasn't asking you, back off.

Sorry to get you all worked up. I was just trying to provide the information you were seeking. I didn't know that you wanted it to come from one specific poster. Enjoy the rest of your day.

I wasn't asking for the information. I was asking where the guy who posted it was getting it. If you were really trying to be helpful, you went about it in a pretty dickish way.

[tk17]

you went about it in a pretty dickish way.

No argument from me on this. I do that sometimes. Sorry.

[DK21]

Hm, I'd thought that because I applied so long ago (mid-October), that the fact that I was still waiting meant I was a borderline candidate at least (hoping for a WL really, let's not go crazy here). Is that logic faulty? I mean if we applied early and haven't heard back could we really be worse than an 11 on their scale? Otherwise we'd be a presumptive ding and would've gotten that right?

Anyone assigned to faculty review will end up with a score 6-12. I've read that professors are guided to give 50% 2s, 25% 3s, 25% 4s. If you're still waiting from the fall you made it to FR, which is good/not an auto-ding, but it is faulty to say that you have an 11 or even a 10. Many amazingly qualified applicants will end up with 2s even after waiting this long.

Got it. I thought everyone made it to FR, unless you were a super qualified auto-admit. But I guess there are auto-dings as well. Too bad, I'll lower my expectations now to even lower than they were before