Colorado Law - Boulder C/O 2018 Forum

[Tr3]

Mine came through email almost simultaneously with the status change.

did anything show on the status checker?

It said decision rendered. There are also two seat deposit amounts listed, but I don't remember if that changed at the same time that the status was updated.

[cuboxing25]

Mine came through email almost simultaneously with the status change.

did anything show on the status checker?

It said decision rendered. There are also two seat deposit amounts listed, but I don't remember if that changed at the same time that the status was updated.

damn, did they mail anything?

[Tr3]

Mine came through email almost simultaneously with the status change.

did anything show on the status checker?

It said decision rendered. There are also two seat deposit amounts listed, but I don't remember if that changed at the same time that the status was updated.

damn, did they mail anything?

Yeah, a packet came a little less than a week later. Did you check your spam folder for an email? Maybe this wave is just different timing! My notification and email both came after 1PM, so maybe they will send the emails later.

[cuboxing25]

Yeah, a packet came a little less than a week later. Did you check your spam folder for an email? Maybe this wave is just different timing! My notification and email both came after 1PM, so maybe they will send the emails later.[/quote]

Ok good point because it says decision rendered 12/8, and I checked early this morning so hopefully I get an email. Imagine going to an interview and they say "so we've made a decision...." and just stopped haha

[sp_crowell]

For those of you wondering, they said that scholarship notifications will go out in January

http://www.colorado.edu/law/admissions/ ... holarships

[cuboxing25]

Just got the email and im in, complete 11/13

[Gungnir]

Just got the email and im in, complete 11/13

Me too! Complete 11/24.

[cuboxing25]

Just got the email and im in, complete 11/13

Me too! Complete 11/24.

congrats!

[Tr3]

Just got the email and im in, complete 11/13

Me too! Complete 11/24.

Woohoo congrats yall!

[Lions1913]

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[mecarey]

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/ ... ation.html

In at T3!!!

Just kidding. But seriously . . . do any current students or alumni have opinions on why the school did so well in the student rankings? I'm also very interested in why you feel the school DOESN'T belong on top. It's tough to get a lot of good information on CU Boulder on TLS. I guess it's T-14 or nothing here.

[LeDique]

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/ ... ation.html

In at T3!!!

Just kidding. But seriously . . . do any current students or alumni have opinions on why the school did so well in the student rankings? I'm also very interested in why you feel the school DOESN'T belong on top. It's tough to get a lot of good information on CU Boulder on TLS. I guess it's T-14 or nothing here.

Uhh well that survey is obviously garbage, but its point is true, judging from what i know via tls and other tlsers, CU law students are much more…normal than other law students. By this I mean more happy, more laid back, and less aspie. People are less laser focused on getting an A in Civ Pro than they are at other schools.

The downside of that attitude is that people care less about gunning for jobs. You don't get as good of a job from CU as you do from elsewhere. I can think of the people who got biglaw from CU and name them -- there's that few of them. I can think of those who got biggov as well, but I bet I'm missing a few. Most people graduate without a job and then take one making 50k in Broomfield.

So the answer is yes, students are happier here than they are elsewhere during school, but that probably stops being true at graduation when most of them don't have jobs.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/ ... ation.html

In at T3!!!

Just kidding. But seriously . . . do any current students or alumni have opinions on why the school did so well in the student rankings? I'm also very interested in why you feel the school DOESN'T belong on top. It's tough to get a lot of good information on CU Boulder on TLS. I guess it's T-14 or nothing here.

We had kegs at the law school. Sometimes twice a week. I think they still do this.

About half of the people may be employed at graduation, but the vast majority are employed nine months or a year out. The field I entered required bar passage before you could apply. Happiness does go down in that period from the end of 3L to getting your job. It's stressful.

But law school at CU is a lot of fun.

[graybee08]

application submitted and checking in

[ChiefOstenaco]

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[FairchildFLT]

In today via email. CU has a strong veterans program and a strong URM program but those employment scores scare me. Waiting for scholarship information.

[rutten]

In today via email. CU has a strong veterans program and a strong URM program but those employment scores scare me. Waiting for scholarship information.

I'm in. What employment scores scare you? LST has a approx 70% employment score for CU (and the ABA stats look pretty good too) which is higher than a hell of a lot of other comparable schools.

Let's face it. We're going into law, not medicine. It will be tough out there post graduation. If you can get into a top 25 school then good for you, but if you are hovering around the medians for a place like CU, I don't think there is anywhere better.

What do you think?

[LeDique]

In today via email. CU has a strong veterans program and a strong URM program but those employment scores scare me. Waiting for scholarship information.

I'm in. What employment scores scare you? LST has a approx 70% employment score for CU (and the ABA stats look pretty good too) which is higher than a hell of a lot of other comparable schools.

Let's face it. We're going into law, not medicine. It will be tough out there post graduation. If you can get into a top 25 school then good for you, but if you are hovering around the medians for a place like CU, I don't think there is anywhere better.

What do you think?

Well, it depends what kind of job you want. If you're okay making 45k in a small office, then go to CU. Then think of all the people taking 1 yr clerkships at the state district court level — that's a 35k job for one year. Or you're going to the DAs/PDs. I don't know what they pay (maybe McDuff or Kronk will chime in on that point), but I know it's not a lot. Then we've got a significant amount of people in 1 yr school funded positions (Denver City Atty's Office and Internal School Jobs). I guess the indicated 10% sounds about right, because I think this is around 15 people. Then you have all of the non-profit kids. I don't know what they make, I know a few of them have one year fellowship type positions. I'm pretty surprised it says 50% of students got their offers before graduation. I don't remember that being true for c/o 2013 or my class this year.

This is all to say that while you're likely to get a job from CU, you need to understand what kind of job that's likely going to be. I got exactly what I signed up for, so if you're expecting the above, it'll work out for you. If you expect to get a biglaw job, or even whateverthefuck midlaw is, paying $80k+, you're likely going to leave disappointed.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

The small firms I interviewed with paid between 50k and 60k, with most at 55k. I think 45k was the rate for the class of 2011, though I'm sure you could find a firm that pays so little, especially if you approached them for contract work and later started as an associated. The firms that advertised for applicants paid a bit more. The market has just gotten slightly better and everyone has to pay a bit more.

DAs make 58K/60K to start on the front range, between 50k and 55k in locations like Durango and Glenwood Springs, and even less in tiny offices like Lamar, Trinidad, etc. PDs are paid about the same across the state and I believe it's at least 55k.

I think LeDique is correct that around 15 people might work for the Denver City Attorney in the fellowship program, but I know only 1 or 2 stayed in that position for the full year term in the class of 2013. They got other jobs, usually with small firms. The fellowship is decent; the pay is almost fair and there is a lot of mentoring. I interviewed there while waiting on bar results and was told the whole point of the fellowship was basically to get the student a different job. It was no sweat shop.

I had no idea that there were clerks in district court making 35k. All the clerkships ads I saw paid 50k. I know someone who failed the 2012 bar from CU and clerked in Larimer county for a county court judge. She made 45k.

All of these salaries are entry level. Gov people get automatic raises. Firms certainly offer raises.

These are expected outcomes from CU. I do believe these are better outcomes than from the other mountain schools, which in no way suggests that you should definitely attend CU. Have a realistic plan to get a job and begin paying the debt. I will say that most of my friends from CU went with their eyes wide open and are now satisfied with their jobs.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

In today via email. CU has a strong veterans program and a strong URM program but those employment scores scare me. Waiting for scholarship information.

I'm in. What employment scores scare you? LST has a approx 70% employment score for CU (and the ABA stats look pretty good too) which is higher than a hell of a lot of other comparable schools.

Let's face it. We're going into law, not medicine. It will be tough out there post graduation. If you can get into a top 25 school then good for you, but if you are hovering around the medians for a place like CU, I don't think there is anywhere better.

What do you think?

Top 25 is pretty meaningless. The average Joe coming out of U of Alabama or U of Washington in Seattle has basically the same prospects as the same graduate from U of Tennessee and U of Oregon. There are national feeder schools for big firms and then there are regional law schools. If you want big law in the big city then go to T14, not "T25."

[rutten]

All of these salaries are entry level. Gov people get automatic raises. Firms certainly offer raises.

These are expected outcomes from CU. I do believe these are better outcomes than from the other mountain schools, which in no way suggests that you should definitely attend CU. Have a realistic plan to get a job and begin paying the debt. I will say that most of my friends from CU went with their eyes wide open and are now satisfied with their jobs.

Right, like you say, entry level/early career salaries. I believe I have my eyes as wide as they can be at this point. I'm not expecting 100k+ salary from a top 50 school at graduation. Far from it. Just an opportunity

So you went to CU, right? I'm OOS. What would you say is the worst thing about the school and the area in general?

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

All of these salaries are entry level. Gov people get automatic raises. Firms certainly offer raises.

These are expected outcomes from CU. I do believe these are better outcomes than from the other mountain schools, which in no way suggests that you should definitely attend CU. Have a realistic plan to get a job and begin paying the debt. I will say that most of my friends from CU went with their eyes wide open and are now satisfied with their jobs.

Right, like you say, entry level/early career salaries. I believe I have my eyes as wide as they can be at this point. I'm not expecting 100k+ salary from a top 50 school at graduation. Far from it. Just an opportunity

So you went to CU, right? I'm OOS. What would you say is the worst thing about the school and the area in general?

I was out of state too. Everyone will have a different gripe but to me the worst thing about the school was the lack of externship credits. I've already forgotten what the cap was but it was very low. If you go to CU you will receive a very traditional legal education and any experiential or hands on education will come from your own efforts. Technically CU has a ton of experiential classes and competitions but when compared to other schools the offerings do not stack up, especially in light of the externship/experiential learning cap. By contrast, DU encourages students to take a "semester in practice." Close second would be prof Gruber. She's an ideologue entertainer, not a professor.

I don't have anything negative to say about the area. Colorado is a fantastic state. Quality of life in Boulder county is sky high.

[LeDique]

Ya the experiential learning rule is dumb. There's a CU thread on here where some admissions shill came to argue with me for calling out the rule as well and my more thorough thoughts on the rule.

I will say I think I'd soften my point about the practical classes. Some of them are more valuable than my post portrays (ex: Motions Ad w/Rice, Fed Lit w/Moss), but still not quite comparable.

Oh, and maybe my memory was wrong - I just remember Boulder & Denver D. Ct. clerkship pay being low enough where I was hesitant to even apply. Either way, this is public information. You can dig it up if you really care.

[ChiefOstenaco]

Just got the scholarship email!

[cuboxing25]

Just got the scholarship email!

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