Stanford Law School c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle) Forum

[Toby Ziegler]

Yep! And hopefully ONLY in September. I hope to channel the spirit of Toby and all his pithy wit. And Jim and Pam's relationship is, in my opinion, the greatest love story on television, ever.

Good luck!! And I couldn't agree more, they have such a great story that is so well told. The only blip I did not appreciate was the temp storyline in season 8. I'm watching those episodes now and just cringe. I did not like her!!

Have you not seen the whole series? If not, just wait until season 9 -- phenomenal television.

[lilyt93]

Have you not seen the whole series? If not, just wait until season 9 -- phenomenal television.

I've seen the whole show (way too many times probably), and I loved their storyline for season 9. I think that some version of the season 9 conflict between Jim and Pam was inevitable, so I appreciated that the writers addressed that problem and then were able to resolve it in such a great way, even though it was hard to watch at times. I wouldn't have felt satisfied with the show ending if they hadn't wrapped up their individual and collective storylines so well.

I just found Cathy annoying and didn't like her trying to seduce Jim in Florida. I'm rewatching the show again on Netflix and just hit her arc. Ugh.

[xylocarp]

Have you not seen the whole series? If not, just wait until season 9 -- phenomenal television.

I've seen the whole show (way too many times probably), and I loved their storyline for season 9. I think that some version of the season 9 conflict between Jim and Pam was inevitable, so I appreciated that the writers addressed that problem and then were able to resolve it in such a great way, even though it was hard to watch at times. I wouldn't have felt satisfied with the show ending if they hadn't wrapped up their individual and collective storylines so well.

I just found Cathy annoying and didn't like her trying to seduce Jim in Florida. I'm rewatching the show again on Netflix and just hit her arc. Ugh.

She is the worst and I hate her

[lilyt93]

She is the worst and I hate her

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[zaetoroftheprotoss]

Checking in! GPA 4.0X but need to take the LSAT in Sept..X_X

Btw, what do you mean by SLS-specific letters? None of my recommenders have any connection to the school; should they mention why SLS is a good fit for me?

[lilyt93]

Checking in! GPA 4.0X but need to take the LSAT in Sept..X_X

Btw, what do you mean by SLS-specific letters? None of my recommenders have any connection to the school; should they mention why SLS is a good fit for me?

This is the question no one seems to have a really solid answer to. Stanford is my top choice, so I wanted to show some extra initiative by having my recommenders write a Stanford letter even though they have no connections to the school. I'm not sure exactly what they ended up writing, but I sent them two paragraphs about why SLS is my top choice with the assumption that they would mention something from them.

My theory (someone please correct me if this sounds stupid and I'm reading too much into this) is that the most SLS usually gets out of these letters is that 1) SLS is really important to you 2) so much so that you would ask a recommender to write an extra letter for you and 3) that your recommenders think highly enough of you that they would actually write you two letters.

[zaetoroftheprotoss]

Btw, for the poll, you should add attend a football game...they are doing quite well at the moment.

[everything_bagel]

Btw, for the poll, you should add attend a football game...they are doing quite well at the moment.

Great idea, but I think if I add another option the current responses will disappear. What a good "other" response though! (Someone, correct me if this is wrong...)

[pylon]

Btw, what do you mean by SLS-specific letters? None of my recommenders have any connection to the school; should they mention why SLS is a good fit for me?

My theory (someone please correct me if this sounds stupid and I'm reading too much into this) is that the most SLS usually gets out of these letters is that 1) SLS is really important to you 2) so much so that you would ask a recommender to write an extra letter for you and 3) that your recommenders think highly enough of you that they would actually write you two letters.

I think that's a pretty good idea, especially 2). Since Stanford has such a small class to fill with so many applicants, this could be a way for them to potentially weed out candidates? Or perhaps not weed out, but look favourably upon those that do make the effort for SLS specific LORs.

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[lilyt93]

Pylon, I'm glad you agree! I know that I was very nervous about asking my recommenders for an extra Stanford letter after they had agreed to write me one. I only did it because making a positive impression on SLS is so important to me. It must be a very useful way for them to identify people who are really interested in them.

[lilyt93]

I have also always thought that people who are strong HYS candidates tend to choose HLS or YLS over SLS, so Stanford is especially careful about yield.

[everything_bagel]

I have also always thought that people who are strong HYS candidates tend to choose HLS or YLS over SLS, so Stanford is especially careful about yield.

Everyone I know who's gotten in to both has picked SLS (except for one guy who was going to choose HLS solely because it's on the east coast until he got into Yale (ugh). I've always thought the yp stuff is a little dated. But people on these boards have definitely been anti-California so maybe it depends.

[ikethegremlin]

I have also always thought that people who are strong HYS candidates tend to choose HLS or YLS over SLS, so Stanford is especially careful about yield.

Everyone I know who's gotten in to both has picked SLS (except for one guy who was going to choose HLS solely because it's on the east coast until he got into Yale (ugh). I've always thought the yp stuff is a little dated. But people on these boards have definitely been anti-California so maybe it depends.

Would be an incredibly difficult decision. It's funny that California is the point about which people get worried - if Yale or Harvard was in Stanford's location I'd find them impossible to turn down. As it is, Yale is Yale, Harvard has that slight lay-prestige boost, and Stanford is basically Yale but in the sun. I can only dream of getting to choose between them.

[pylon]

I have also always thought that people who are strong HYS candidates tend to choose HLS or YLS over SLS, so Stanford is especially careful about yield.

Everyone I know who's gotten in to both has picked SLS (except for one guy who was going to choose HLS solely because it's on the east coast until he got into Yale (ugh). I've always thought the yp stuff is a little dated. But people on these boards have definitely been anti-California so maybe it depends.

I wonder if we could look at LSN and see where applicants who were accepted to two of HYS matriculated. This might have been done in the past, I'll try and look. Albeit small sample size, it could be interesting!

[everything_bagel]

I wonder if we could look at LSN and see where applicants who were accepted to two of HYS matriculated. This might have been done in the past, I'll try and look. Albeit small sample size, it could be interesting!

I thought this was an interesting idea and looked into it for a while, looking through HLS profiles for people also admitted to SLS. Interesting results, though I'm not sure it was a great idea on my part; here's what I learned:
- SLS is the clear winner of the profiles updated in the last 5 months (didn't go back further). 13 people went to SLS, including many who only got in off the WL; only four went to HLS.
- A lot of people don't apply to SLS.
- Getting stuck in "under review" purgatory for six months sounds like the worst.
- The people who get into both HLS and SLS are ridiculously impressive (just guess what other choices they had...)
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Anyway, I started this weird chart; anyone who wants to is welcome to continue it or look at other years (but I'm not sure I recommend it; it's interesting but kind of disheartening).

edit: spreadsheet was accidentally private before but should be viewable now; let me know if it doesn't work.

[lilyt93]

I thought this was an interesting idea and looked into it for a while, looking through HLS profiles for people also admitted to SLS. Interesting results, though I'm not sure it was a great idea on my part; here's what I learned:
- SLS is the clear winner of the profiles updated in the last 5 months (didn't go back further). 13 people went to SLS, including many who only got in off the WL; only four went to HLS.
- A lot of people don't apply to SLS.
- Getting stuck in "under review" purgatory for six months sounds like the worst.
- The people who get into both HLS and SLS are ridiculously impressive (just guess what other choices they had...)
- .

Anyway, I started this weird chart; anyone who wants to is welcome to continue it or look at other years (but I'm not sure I recommend it; it's interesting but kind of disheartening).

edit: spreadsheet was accidentally private before but should be viewable now; let me know if it doesn't work.

This is a great analysis, thanks so much for doing it! Interesting to know that SLS seemed to be the first choice. Even though it's my top choice, I had always thought most people preferred HLS or YLS!

[everything_bagel]

This is a great analysis, thanks so much for doing it! Interesting to know that SLS seemed to be the first choice. Even though it's my top choice, I had always thought most people preferred HLS or YLS!

I should have mentioned this before, but one possible way in which Stanford's advantage is overstated is that they seem to be slower at getting back to people than Harvard is (grrr), so some people withdraw and pick Harvard (or another school with $$$). It's hard to say whether these people (a) would have been admitted and (b) would have picked Harvard in that instance, so I omitted them, but they might help HLS's numbers a bit.

And Stanford's advantage is also obviously helped by the people who don't even apply to SLS, and would thus presumably pick HLS instead if given a choice...but I omitted them too.

[pylon]

This is a great analysis, thanks so much for doing it! Interesting to know that SLS seemed to be the first choice. Even though it's my top choice, I had always thought most people preferred HLS or YLS!

I should have mentioned this before, but one possible way in which Stanford's advantage is overstated is that they seem to be slower at getting back to people than Harvard is (grrr), so some people withdraw and pick Harvard (or another school with $$$). It's hard to say whether these people (a) would have been admitted and (b) would have picked Harvard in that instance, so I omitted them, but they might help HLS's numbers a bit.

And Stanford's advantage is also obviously helped by the people who don't even apply to SLS, and would thus presumably pick HLS instead if given a choice...but I omitted them too.

Thanks for the spreadsheet everything_bagel! I enjoy numbers and have been compiling a list of things to look at once my personal statement is done, and will definitely add to this once that glorious day comes!

This is just conjecture, but I doubt that many people would withdraw from SLS before hearing a response, even if they had been accepted to HLS or T14 w $$. There would be no incentive for them to do so, right? As long as SLS gets back to them before deposit deadlines, which I believe they do.

But definitely is surprising that the majority chose SLS, it's not what I would have expected. I would have thought the same as lilyt!

[Colonel_funkadunk]

The poll should have the option "bask in the fact I'm not in indiana anymore".

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[hillz]

Checking in. I've been getting stressed about SLS because their on campus housing is so incredible looking, but I'm hoping to get a dog with my SO next summer and they don't allow pets... then I remember it won't matter because I'm not getting in anyway

LOL. My thoughts exactly.

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[lilyt93]

GUYS THE STANFORD WEBSITE NOW SAYS THAT THE APPLICATION WILL BECOME AVAILABLE ON SEPTEMBER 2

https://www.law.stanford.edu/degrees/jd/jd_application