Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013) Forum

[PRgradBYU]

June is when most of the WL--> accept people hear.

I'm glad to hear this, because I totally wrote that I would be willing to stay on the WL until the end of June in my LOCI yesterday.

[volp]

so idk if this is dumb but

what's the average hls financial aid package? what does a really good one look like?

A good one is half, and it means you (and your parents) are poor or over 29 without much savings/assets. A great one is full, and it means you're older with a family and kids. Average is closer to 10k a year, more or less.

half of the $78,000 tuition (incl room and board)? so a 'full' is $78,000?

The maximum grant is the difference between your student budget ($78000ish) and the base loan ($43100 <--- made up of federal and HLS loans). For example, the most needy of us would get close to $35k if the default student budget was used ($78k - $43k) and we weren't expected to contribute anything towards the budget. However, if they determine that you're able to contribute something, that grant amount would be lowered by the amount they expect you to pay.

Whenever people get grants that cover the full tuition or close ($50000ish), it's because their student budget was increased from $78k for various reasons. For example, someone with a wife and child may get an adjusted student budget of $95k. After deducting the base loan, we're left with roughly $52k. If that person is not deemed to be able to make a financial contribution towards the cost of attendance (because of no assets/savings, etc), then they'd prob get a grant of around $50-52k. IIRC, that's the only way people can get full tuition grants. In other words, on a regular student budget of $78k, it's not possible to get more than $35k because you are required to take the base loan as a condition of accepting grants.

tl;dr: Your grant is the difference between your student budget (normally around $78k) and the base loan ($43k). If they don't think you can pay anything, you should get the full difference or close (around $30-35k), and it's entirely need based.

great explanation, thanks!! question answered

[bosmer88]

I had a horrible dream last night. I dreamed that I was in limbo at Harvard and somehow gained access to a super secret spreadsheet containing applicant information as well as notes written by the adcomms about each applicant. The weird thing was that it had my real name plus the usernames of some TLSers though I don't remember them now. Some people had JS2s next to their names in the spreadsheet, while others had waitlist written next to theirs. The admissions committee had written negative things about me. They wrote that I wasn't cut out for Harvard and that my interview was a joke. I remember I tried to turn in a loci and they laughed at me, wondering what shenanigans I was up to next in my loci.

Weird ass dream.

[jbagelboy]

I had a horrible dream last night. I dreamed that I was in limbo at Harvard and somehow gained access to a super secret spreadsheet containing applicant information as well as notes written by the adcomms about each applicant. The weird thing was that it had my real name plus the usernames of some TLSers though I don't remember them now. Some people had JS2s next to their names in the spreadsheet, while others had waitlist written next to theirs. The admissions committee had written negative things about me. They wrote that I wasn't cut out for Harvard and that my interview was a joke. I remember I tried to turn in a loci and they laughed at me, wondering what shenanigans I was up to next in my loci.

Weird ass dream.

people need to relax

[TripTrip]

This is for you, bosmer:

[bosmer88]

I had chinese food the night before. Won't be eating that again for a long time. I had a homemade meal tonight and expect a more uneventful sleep. Here's to (hopefully) more positive movement tomorrow.

[siredwrdross]

I had chinese food the night before. Won't be eating that again for a long time. I had a homemade meal tonight and expect a more uneventful sleep. Here's to (hopefully) more positive movement tomorrow.

*Giggles immaturely at "hoping for more positive movement" after discussing one's diet for the last two nights.*

[bosmer88]

I had chinese food the night before. Won't be eating that again for a long time. I had a homemade meal tonight and expect a more uneventful sleep. Here's to (hopefully) more positive movement tomorrow.

*Giggles immaturely at "hoping for more positive movement" after discussing one's diet for the last two nights.*

Yeah, I see what I did. Can't blame you for the giggles.

[helix23]

I had chinese food the night before. Won't be eating that again for a long time. I had a homemade meal tonight and expect a more uneventful sleep. Here's to (hopefully) more positive movement tomorrow.

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[bosmer88]

I get weird dreams during those rare occasions after eating Taco Bell.

helix, I realize I am discriminatory...just against craptastic food. (just this batch of chinese food )

[Anonymous4444]

fine ill say it: this page is a correlation vs causation flaw

i dont feel good about that

[sabanist]

I had a Harvard dream last night too... Y'all are a bad influence.

In my dream, Harvard was actually Hogwarts. It was in the UK and everything.

[toothbrush]

I had a Harvard dream last night too... Y'all are a bad influence.

In my dream, Harvard was actually Hogwarts. It was in the UK and everything.

well.. that's not a Harvard dream at all.

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[sabanist]

well.. that's not a Harvard dream at all.

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It totally was. JS was there, and she kept telling us not to tell our friends or family where we actually were and reveal the big secret about Harvard.
I'm going to lobby for a class on magical law at ASW.

[siredwrdross]

well.. that's not a Harvard dream at all.

yerawizardharrry.jpg

It totally was. JS was there, and she kept telling us not to tell our friends or family where we actually were and reveal the big secret about Harvard.
I'm going to lobby for a class on magical law at ASW.

Good idea. Reform is needed. Some of those laws are quite draconian. I mean, "the trace?" Talk about an invasion of privacy.

[Anonymous4444]

JS2!!!!!!!!
I'm shaking
Held 1/11
Js1 4/3
Js2 4/8

Happiest day of my life.

Thanks to all of you.

That's a wrap

[siredwrdross]

JS2!!!!!!!!
I'm shaking
Held 1/11
Js1 4/3
Js2 4/8

Happiest day of my life.

Thanks to all of you.

That's a wrap

Grats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like "more positive movement" was right on!

[helix23]

JS2!!!!!!!!
I'm shaking
Held 1/11
Js1 4/3
Js2 4/8

Happiest day of my life.

Thanks to all of you.

That's a wrap

Congrats!

[applemaroon]

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[trojandave]

JS2!!!!!!!!
I'm shaking
Held 1/11
Js1 4/3
Js2 4/8

Happiest day of my life.

Thanks to all of you.

That's a wrap

Way to go, man!!! Congrats!

[Anonymous4444]

Ok here's my numbers bec my cycle is over!!!!!!!!!!!


172/4.17

[bakaaw]

congrats!

i'm happy for movement one way or the other! i had my js1 (which definitely could have gone better) a little over a week ago and figure i'll know my fate pretty well if i (don't) hear today.

definitely excited about the harvard possibility; it's be a dream obviously, but i've got solid options regardless. ready for my cycle to be done and these unyielding anxieties to be over.

(also, call me ms. js, please)

(also, looks like they're still taking high gpas over lsats)

[d330]

JS2. Bosmer you're next.

[jychun412]

Ok here's my numbers bec my cycle is over!!!!!!!!!!!


172/4.17

Did you write LOCI? If yes, can I ask when?

[siredwrdross]

JS2. Bosmer you're next.

At long last! Seriously, that is impressive.