Stanford Law School c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle) Forum

[everything_bagel]

New poll is up!

eta put the old poll results in the OP in case anyone cares about the historical record

[pylon]

Sidebar from the HYS/CCN$ discussion, rejections started coming out last cycle the second week of February. Just as a heads up. I'm not sure how different this cycle has been from last for SLS (someone please feel free to chime in), but just wanted to share the information.

[Oskosh]

^^

But Stanford seems really to be one of the few adhering to "rolling" admissions, right? Because I don't think it's touched on many (if any) January apps, right?

I don't want to be in that boat haha.

[strugglebus]

Sidebar from the HYS/CCN$ discussion, rejections started coming out last cycle the second week of February. Just as a heads up. I'm not sure how different this cycle has been from last for SLS (someone please feel free to chime in), but just wanted to share the information.

Last year SLS had admits before the new year (although from crawling through the thread it looked like the November start was surprisingly early to the point that people assumed it was trolling WAY more so than they questioned the whole call-two-people-at-7:30-am-and-quit-for-the-day thing this year), so dings could end up being later this cycle, too.

[everything_bagel]

Sidebar from the HYS/CCN$ discussion, rejections started coming out last cycle the second week of February. Just as a heads up. I'm not sure how different this cycle has been from last for SLS (someone please feel free to chime in), but just wanted to share the information.

Yikes. I think we should all be safe for a while longer, though; admits only started going out in mid-to-late January (edit: that is, much later than last year), and Dean Deal is understaffed.

[pylon]

Okay, that's very reassuring to hear. Thanks all! My only concern is that, just because they started making admit calls later this year, doesn't necessarily mean they will make rejections later too, right? Presumably they would have reviewed most of the applicants from up until the point they've accepted (mid-November?), and they could have already made decisions on some of those and are waiting to send them off in a batch. Although that begs the question, why wait? Anyways I'm just thinking out loud; don't mind me.

[strugglebus]

Okay, that's very reassuring to hear. Thanks all! My only concern is that, just because they started making admit calls later this year, doesn't necessarily mean they will make rejections later too, right? Presumably they would have reviewed most of the applicants from up until the point they've accepted (mid-November?), and they could have already made decisions on some of those and are waiting to send them off in a batch. Although that begs the question, why wait? Anyways I'm just thinking out loud; don't mind me.

If the posts re: personnel turnover are accurate, it's plausible that the delayed admits are a function of a delayed review in general, which would seem to delay the whole process. But I agree that in general, delayed admits doesn't necessarily mean delayed dings.

[The thinker]

Okay, that's very reassuring to hear. Thanks all! My only concern is that, just because they started making admit calls later this year, doesn't necessarily mean they will make rejections later too, right? Presumably they would have reviewed most of the applicants from up until the point they've accepted (mid-November?), and they could have already made decisions on some of those and are waiting to send them off in a batch. Although that begs the question, why wait? Anyways I'm just thinking out loud; don't mind me.

I tend to agree with the idea delayed admits won't delay dings. I sort of expect a round of prima facie dings to pair with the apparent prima facie admits ( most that I've seen being over both 75 ths) and marginal candidates will have to wait

[dlrkgml]

The Status Check page keeps telling me "Unknown UserID" even though I've logged in many times before today. Is the server down?

[universityof]

The Status Check page keeps telling me "Unknown UserID" even though I've logged in many times before today. Is the server down?

It's weird. It only works for me when I access through the email they sent out, rather than by googling.

[dlrkgml]

The Status Check page keeps telling me "Unknown UserID" even though I've logged in many times before today. Is the server down?

It's weird. It only works for me when I access through the email they sent out, rather than by googling.

Ah, you're right! I had never noticed that before. And I can log in now. Thank you so much.

[antiworldly]

The Status Check page keeps telling me "Unknown UserID" even though I've logged in many times before today. Is the server down?

This is because there are two Stanford status checkers, the JD and the LLM. Google Stanford Status check and the first one that comes up is the LLM, which won't work. Either use the one in your email or make sure you're on the JD side of the website.

[RunnerRunner]

Interesting poll results so far. Would have thought either 1) Stanford would dominate since this is the Stanford thread or 2) Yale would dominate because of its ranking. But so far YHS pretty evenly split...

[Auxilio]

Interesting poll results so far. Would have thought either 1) Stanford would dominate since this is the Stanford thread or 2) Yale would dominate because of its ranking. But so far YHS pretty evenly split...

Also NYU is beating both C's easily.

[RunnerRunner]

Interesting poll results so far. Would have thought either 1) Stanford would dominate since this is the Stanford thread or 2) Yale would dominate because of its ranking. But so far YHS pretty evenly split...

Also NYU is beating both C's easily.

Lol and no love at all for lower T-14 with $. It's all about the prestige in this thread! (Though I guess lower T14 with $ versus CCN with $ isn't really a contest).

[everything_bagel]

Interesting poll results so far. Would have thought either 1) Stanford would dominate since this is the Stanford thread or 2) Yale would dominate because of its ranking. But so far YHS pretty evenly split...

I would have thought 3) Rubenstein/Hamilton/named NYU scholly would be TCR but at this point it's basically a rounding error

People: is that because Yale is an option? Why do you want $300,000 in debt?

edit: that sounds kinda confrontational but this is a serious question

[radio1nowhere]

Lol and no love at all for lower T-14 with $. It's all about the prestige in this thread! (Though I guess lower T14 with $ versus CCN with $ isn't really a contest).

It stands to reason that most of the applicants gunning for lower T-14s are probably not hanging around in the Stanford thread..

[RunnerRunner]

Lol and no love at all for lower T-14 with $. It's all about the prestige in this thread! (Though I guess lower T14 with $ versus CCN with $ isn't really a contest).

It stands to reason that most of the applicants gunning for lower T-14s are probably not hanging around in the Stanford thread..

Yeah I'd agree, though with an exception: I'm sure there are some debt-averse Stanford-caliber applicants who'd be happy to snag a Darrow or something equivalent (but of course those people would likely select CCN$$$ in the poll). And everything_bagel that's what I would have thought as well, but I guess our application pool is all YHS or bust!

[radio1nowhere]

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[LoganCouture]

Also, I have something to add to the worn-out prestige debate (though I'm sure someone has said it before). When users on this forum encounter an applicant without super clear goals who's set on YHS, the universal reaction is "prestige whore." I think that – for some of us – there is another factor at play.

I have been dreaming my whole life about YHS. Seriously. When I decided that I wanted to do law one day (early high school), I really committed myself to it. I shot for the stars. I slaved away to prepare myself for the opportunity to go to the best law school that I was capable of going to, and so the ultimate goal was always YHS. At the time I didn't know anything about the ins-and-outs of admissions, financial aid, law prestige, or anything of the sort, I just shot for the stars. I wanted to be the best I could be. I specifically remember in high school, before I had even starting thinking about which undergrad institutions to apply to, hoping that one day I'd get a chance at YHS. I slaved away for years to put myself in a position where it would be possible to get into one of the best institutions on the planet, and – though I have of course come to realize more recently the benefits of other T-14s with $$$ – the dream doesn't die easy. I'm not at all saying that applicants should follow their heart over solid logic, I'm just explaining the non-prestige-whore conflicts of interest for many of us. Sometimes financially responsible decisions don't seem as attractive when they come at the cost of a lifelong dream.

Just a thought. Radio out

But what put YHS in your head and not your local school? I assume that preftige is the factor that distinguishes YHS from other law schools and made it your "shoot for the stars" goal in the first place. I have a hard time seeing how "life long dream" means anything other than "chasing prestige from an early age."

ETA: Not telling you to abandon your dream at all, I just hesitate to label this a "non-prestige-whore conflict of interest."

[partlycloudy]

How are the rejections and waitlists sent for Stanford? Anyone know for Harvard? Thanks

[radio1nowhere]

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[LoganCouture]

Also, I have something to add to the worn-out prestige debate (though I'm sure someone has said it before). When users on this forum encounter an applicant without super clear goals who's set on YHS, the universal reaction is "prestige whore." I think that – for some of us – there is another factor at play.

I have been dreaming my whole life about YHS. Seriously. When I decided that I wanted to do law one day (early high school), I really committed myself to it. I shot for the stars. I slaved away to prepare myself for the opportunity to go to the best law school that I was capable of going to, and so the ultimate goal was always YHS. At the time I didn't know anything about the ins-and-outs of admissions, financial aid, law prestige, or anything of the sort, I just shot for the stars. I wanted to be the best I could be. I specifically remember in high school, before I had even starting thinking about which undergrad institutions to apply to, hoping that one day I'd get a chance at YHS. I slaved away for years to put myself in a position where it would be possible to get into one of the best institutions on the planet, and – though I have of course come to realize more recently the benefits of other T-14s with $$$ – the dream doesn't die easy. I'm not at all saying that applicants should follow their heart over solid logic, I'm just explaining the non-prestige-whore conflicts of interest for many of us. Sometimes financially responsible decisions don't seem as attractive when they come at the cost of a lifelong dream.

Just a thought. Radio out

But what put YHS in your head and not your local school? I assume that preftige is the factor that distinguishes YHS from other law schools and made it your "shoot for the stars" goal in the first place. I have a hard time seeing how "life long dream" means anything other than "chasing prestige from an early age."

ETA: Not telling you to abandon your dream at all, I just hesitate to label this a "non-prestige-whore conflict of interest."

Because they're the best? "Shooting for the stars" means to set high goals, and what law school would be a higher goal than YHS? Surely you would agree that everything else being equal, a law degree from YHS is at least marginally worth more than one from anywhere else.

I just meant that knowing they're the best likely came from their prestigious reputation. The reason people aspire to YHS in particular (unless they have extensively researched the schools) is because they're well known as "the best" - this reputation of high status can be labeled as them having "prestige."

[RunnerRunner]

Also, I have something to add to the worn-out prestige debate (though I'm sure someone has said it before). When users on this forum encounter an applicant without super clear goals who's set on YHS, the universal reaction is "prestige whore." I think that – for some of us – there is another factor at play.

I have been dreaming my whole life about YHS. Seriously. When I decided that I wanted to do law one day (early high school), I really committed myself to it. I shot for the stars. I slaved away to prepare myself for the opportunity to go to the best law school that I was capable of going to, and so the ultimate goal was always YHS. At the time I didn't know anything about the ins-and-outs of admissions, financial aid, law prestige, or anything of the sort, I just shot for the stars. I wanted to be the best I could be. I specifically remember in high school, before I had even starting thinking about which undergrad institutions to apply to, hoping that one day I'd get a chance at YHS. I slaved away for years to put myself in a position where it would be possible to get into one of the best institutions on the planet, and – though I have of course come to realize more recently the benefits of other T-14s with $$$ – the dream doesn't die easy. I'm not at all saying that applicants should continue to pursue their childhoods goals over the ones submitted by solid logic, I'm just explaining the non-prestige-whore conflicts of interest for many of us. Sometimes financially responsible decisions don't seem as attractive when they come at the cost of a lifelong dream.

Just a thought. Radio out

I'd agree "prestige whore" is thrown around too much. And I don't think it is unreasonable to go to YHS over less expensive options IF you have specific career goals that are much more easily attained out of YHS (hell, I'm def going to Y or H over CCN$$... I'd include S in the equation but I'm still waiting for those bastards to give me a call! ) I think when the goal is Biglaw though, it can be a little silly to go to YHS and rack up that much debt just because the school's name sounds impressive. That's probably what half the people screaming "prestige whore" are targeting... and the other half of them are just trolling lol. But sounds to me like you've thought this through, so I say stick with your dream

ETA: That last sentence might have sounded sarcastic, but it wasn't. I am actually a big proponent of dream-following haha, and it sounds like you've thought about this for a long time.

[radio1nowhere]

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