Cornell 2011 applicants Forum

[masterthearts]

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

[kk19131]

Yay for the Complete 11/15ers...

[whymeohgodno]

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

Keep deluding yourself.

[masterthearts]

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

Keep deluding yourself.

Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.

[mths]

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly

[IsleMet]

Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

[mrmangs]

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

Keep deluding yourself.

Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.

Not that I necessarily disagree with you about your chances of getting in, but can't your point be made about any combination of LSAT/GPA (i.e., your metric for assessment is no more "special" than what you criticize)? And if you want to add in selectivity based on UG, they could toss in a list of schools into their computer program.

[whymeohgodno]

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

Keep deluding yourself.

Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.

I'm not saying that's the only criteria but GL thinking that your 3.8 GPA will outweigh a 163 LSAT.

[mths]

Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

No.

[whymeohgodno]

Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

It's just a soft.

[masterthearts]

I'm a non-mex hispanic and my app has been complete and ready for review (per the email since 11/17). I'm a reverse splitter at an ivy league with GPA over 3.8 and lsat 163.
I actually emailed Geiger about my low lsat score. He said a high GPA is a better indication of one's abilities than a score on a single day. So, I hope that bodes well for me.

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

Keep deluding yourself.

Really, what are you talking about. If they just wanted to accept those with a 168+ and a 3.7+, they could use a computer to make the decisions and would need only ONE adcom to glance through the app to make sure there are no arrests, or other negative marks.
You are deluding yourself.

I'm not saying that's the only criteria but GL thinking that your 3.8 GPA will outweigh a 163 LSAT.

Well, soft factors are also considered, such as recs, resume, etc.

[T6Hopeful]

Is grad school GPA ever taken into consideration? I hope so! I've done a lot better in grad school than I did in undergrad.

No, because if you don't have a high grad school GPA, you usually get kicked out of the program anyway. Getting a grad degree is a nice soft, but it basically implies that you did well in it anyway (grade-wise).

[masterthearts]

From what I can see on LSN, the people who already received decisions are those who went complete on or before 11/1.

[Miracle]

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly

since when?

[s0ph1e2007]

Still sitting in the 2nd phase of "under review" as of 11/29... why me, oh god no.

what do you mean by 2nd phase?
you've had two different dates that have said UR?

I'm at the first one for UR at 11/29

the last person to get accepted though went UR, then six days later was admitted.

[whymeohgodno]

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly

since when?

I've always thought this but it's just anecdotal evidence. I'm not sure on an aggregate level whether Cornell does dislike splitters.

They are definitely more splitter adverse than Georgetown though.

[Miracle]

Here is the exerpt from the email I received in response to my question:
__________________________________________________________________
You’ve obviously done well at a strong school and have shown the ability to thrive in an academic environment. That’s important to us, and will usually outweigh the LSAT score because your college record is based on actual performance not a high-stakes test’s prediction about future performance.

So, to make a long story short, I think Cornell places a lot of weight on a high GPA from tough school..sounds like they might be favoring reverse splitters this cycle (never did any research on previous cycles)

Cornell is pretty splitter averse in general if I recall correctly

since when?

I've always thought this but it's just anecdotal evidence. I'm not sure on an aggregate level whether Cornell does dislike splitters.

They are definitely more splitter adverse than Georgetown though.

Interesting. They didn't sound that way when I spoke with them

[whymeohgodno]

Interesting. They didn't sound that way when I spoke with them

What did they say?

[Snape]

nevermind

[RTFM]

Compete since 11/11, updated 11/29. Still nothing.

[masterthearts]

Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry

Well, we'll see about that. Does legacy count?

[whymeohgodno]

Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry

Someone in this thread just got rejected with a 168/3.88. He had multiple underage drinking violations though? I thought TLS wisdom though was that these don't really matter.

[s0ph1e2007]

Compete since 11/11, updated 11/29. Still nothing.

Complete or UR on either date?

[amkid100]

Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry

Well, we'll see about that. Does legacy count?

Here's to hoping!

[s0ph1e2007]

Cornell likes 168+ LSAT...they will settle for 167s with 3.85+....166 or lower is just a dream in the dark in need of other plans....163 is near dead....sorry

Someone in this thread just got rejected with a 168/3.88. He had multiple underage drinking violations though? I thought TLS wisdom though was that these don't really matter.

multiple matters
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