Ah.shadowfrost000 wrote:It's hardly a terrible GPA if you're trying to find a job in our respective fields or get a decent graduate degree.rondemarino wrote: say wha?
No shit. LS admissions is f-ed up.
Ah.shadowfrost000 wrote:It's hardly a terrible GPA if you're trying to find a job in our respective fields or get a decent graduate degree.rondemarino wrote: say wha?
Seriously, I'm starting to wonder whether I should've shot them an application... Oh well, I don't think I've got it in me to rework my PS now anyway.Helmholtz wrote:rondemarino wrote:Ok. What is with all the low GPAs (low relative to Boalt in year's past) making into Boalt this year? (link) Maybe I should apply.....![]()
wtf, somebody with my LSAT but a lower GPA has gotten in, holy crap. I thought my ~3.5 GPA was basically an auto-reject; didn't even bother to apply.
It seems that's what law school's all about.shadowfrost000 wrote:I threw them an app anyway because I like to waste my money on hopeless dreams.
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+1summerschooled wrote:It seems that's what law school's all about.shadowfrost000 wrote:I threw them an app anyway because I like to waste my money on hopeless dreams.
wait a minute... you have better stats than me and you're a URM? and yet you got waitlisted?Mosca wrote: Appreciate it. I definitely wouldn't mind going to USC, I hope my URMness and softs count for more there.
haha im literally laughing out loud in the library because im so scared for the rest of us ED applicants who haven't heard back yet...or at least scared for myself. you have a significantly higher LSAT than I do as "partial URM" and jgulia45 got waitlisted at 167/3.73, which i believe is almost perfectly at UCLA's medians.Mosca wrote:Half URM, but I attended a TTT and UCLA seems to put a lot of emphasis on quality of UG. If you avoided the waitlist today and the rejections earlier in the week then I would say you have a decent shot. At least they're taking more time to look at your app.finalaspects wrote:wait a minute... you have better stats than me and you're a URM? and yet you got waitlisted?Mosca wrote: Appreciate it. I definitely wouldn't mind going to USC, I hope my URMness and softs count for more there.
should i just be expecting a rejection instead of a waitlist even?... guess i'll find out in a couple of more weeks...
exactly. being deferred to regular decision gives greater latitude in scholarship bargaining, and they know you applied early decision and are committed to that school. that being said, admission through ED isn't bad, and sure is better than rejection through RD.AngryAvocado wrote:I think he's trying to say that ED people might have an edge over RD applicants with similar numbers since they obviously love the school enough to apply ED, but they also get considered for $$ (however unlikely it may be) since they aren't bound to attend.ughOSU wrote:What? Why not just apply RD?brewinbruin wrote:"UCLA doesn't do this for EDers. If you ED you're either accepted, rejected, or waitlisted. No deferral to the regular applicant pool."
not true--UCLA law does defer to the regular admission pool. when I spoke with an admissions officer at UCLA law he said the best possible scenario that can come from applying early decision is being deferred (this assumes that you are admitted with the regular pool)
That, or the admissions officer was admitted after being deferred ED and is insecure about it.
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probably a contributing factor to why i got waitlisted is because i'm out of state...i'm actually not as bummed as i thought i'd be.jay115 wrote:haha im literally laughing out loud in the library because im so scared for the rest of us ED applicants who haven't heard back yet...or at least scared for myself. you have a significantly higher LSAT than I do as "partial URM" and jgulia45 got waitlisted at 167/3.73, which i believe is almost perfectly at UCLA's medians.Mosca wrote:Half URM, but I attended a TTT and UCLA seems to put a lot of emphasis on quality of UG. If you avoided the waitlist today and the rejections earlier in the week then I would say you have a decent shot. At least they're taking more time to look at your app.finalaspects wrote:wait a minute... you have better stats than me and you're a URM? and yet you got waitlisted?Mosca wrote: Appreciate it. I definitely wouldn't mind going to USC, I hope my URMness and softs count for more there.
should i just be expecting a rejection instead of a waitlist even?... guess i'll find out in a couple of more weeks...
i wonder if its because they sent me a letter instead. phone calls for acceptances, emails for waitlists, and letters for rejections. wouldnt that be fun!
UCLA says residency doesn't play a factor into their decisions. but yeah - im assuming from your avatar you already got into Texas.jgulia45 wrote:probably a contributing factor to why i got waitlisted is because i'm out of state...i'm actually not as bummed as i thought i'd be.jay115 wrote:haha im literally laughing out loud in the library because im so scared for the rest of us ED applicants who haven't heard back yet...or at least scared for myself. you have a significantly higher LSAT than I do as "partial URM" and jgulia45 got waitlisted at 167/3.73, which i believe is almost perfectly at UCLA's medians.Mosca wrote: Half URM, but I attended a TTT and UCLA seems to put a lot of emphasis on quality of UG. If you avoided the waitlist today and the rejections earlier in the week then I would say you have a decent shot. At least they're taking more time to look at your app.
i wonder if its because they sent me a letter instead. phone calls for acceptances, emails for waitlists, and letters for rejections. wouldnt that be fun!
I think the stats still played a major part in the decision. As close as jgulia45 was to UCLA medians in both LSAT and GPA, it was lower than both of them. In other words it would have brought down UCLA's medians in both counts. # Median LSAT: 168 # Median GPA: 3.77jay115 wrote:UCLA says residency doesn't play a factor into their decisions. but yeah - im assuming from your avatar you already got into Texas.jgulia45 wrote:probably a contributing factor to why i got waitlisted is because i'm out of state...i'm actually not as bummed as i thought i'd be.jay115 wrote:haha im literally laughing out loud in the library because im so scared for the rest of us ED applicants who haven't heard back yet...or at least scared for myself. you have a significantly higher LSAT than I do as "partial URM" and jgulia45 got waitlisted at 167/3.73, which i believe is almost perfectly at UCLA's medians.Mosca wrote: Half URM, but I attended a TTT and UCLA seems to put a lot of emphasis on quality of UG. If you avoided the waitlist today and the rejections earlier in the week then I would say you have a decent shot. At least they're taking more time to look at your app.
i wonder if its because they sent me a letter instead. phone calls for acceptances, emails for waitlists, and letters for rejections. wouldnt that be fun!
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if 170/3.9 is your stats, you may hear back sooner then most people. UCLA doesn't follow first come first serve, as if an applicant is very lucrative they may offer you an acceptance at any time. Then again you still may have to wait a few weeks but you never know.Slansky wrote:So if I applied RD, should I be pacing around waiting to hear something since a few others already did, or should I still be expecting to wait until February as they said I should? In other words, for you stats-mongers, am I more likely to hear now-ish since I went complete 10/20, or could I still end up waiting for weeks and weeks?
This is the worst... I'm nervous because I know the decision could come anytime, but I don't have the calm assurance that in X amount of time I'll know and it'll be over.
What were your stats? If i remember correctly people say that its very difficult to get a positive response after getting waitlisted. Apparently only 3 people from LSN last year got accepted after being waitlisted... All 3 had a 3.8GPA and LSAT ranging from 164-167msch0i wrote:I received my waitlist decision yesterday via e-mail from Dean Schwartz. (ED applicant). Getting pretty nervous reading waitlist forums for last year's applicants because it seems like many people didn't hear from them right up until mid-August...
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My stats weren't great...3.81GPA/160lsat at UCLA undergrad. I'm basically riding on academic honors (honors program) and pertinent jobs/extracurriculars/recommendations. UCLA was always my first choice but when I got my lsat score I pretty much gave up hope and submitted the app as a hail mary attempt. Very surprised at the waitlist decision, it just sucks that I'll probably wait until August and not hear anythingfinalaspects wrote:What were your stats? If i remember correctly people say that its very difficult to get a positive response after getting waitlisted. Apparently only 3 people from LSN last year got accepted after being waitlisted... All 3 had a 3.8GPA and LSAT ranging from 164-167msch0i wrote:I received my waitlist decision yesterday via e-mail from Dean Schwartz. (ED applicant). Getting pretty nervous reading waitlist forums for last year's applicants because it seems like many people didn't hear from them right up until mid-August...
Retake? They may have waitlisted you solely because they think you might retake. What do you have to lose, other than $136 or whatever and a little time?msch0i wrote:My stats weren't great...3.81GPA/160lsat at UCLA undergrad. I'm basically riding on academic honors (honors program) and pertinent jobs/extracurriculars/recommendations. UCLA was always my first choice but when I got my lsat score I pretty much gave up hope and submitted the app as a hail mary attempt. Very surprised at the waitlist decision, it just sucks that I'll probably wait until August and not hear anythingfinalaspects wrote:What were your stats? If i remember correctly people say that its very difficult to get a positive response after getting waitlisted. Apparently only 3 people from LSN last year got accepted after being waitlisted... All 3 had a 3.8GPA and LSAT ranging from 164-167msch0i wrote:I received my waitlist decision yesterday via e-mail from Dean Schwartz. (ED applicant). Getting pretty nervous reading waitlist forums for last year's applicants because it seems like many people didn't hear from them right up until mid-August...Not getting my hopes too high, for obvious reasons.
they also love accepting students from their own undergrad and you do have the 3.8 gpa going for you. Like crackberry said, take the lsat again and raise your lsat score. The higher you get, the more likely you'll get off the waitlist.crackberry wrote:Retake? They may have waitlisted you solely because they think you might retake. What do you have to lose, other than $136 or whatever and a little time?msch0i wrote:
My stats weren't great...3.81GPA/160lsat at UCLA undergrad. I'm basically riding on academic honors (honors program) and pertinent jobs/extracurriculars/recommendations. UCLA was always my first choice but when I got my lsat score I pretty much gave up hope and submitted the app as a hail mary attempt. Very surprised at the waitlist decision, it just sucks that I'll probably wait until August and not hear anythingNot getting my hopes too high, for obvious reasons.
Thanks for the tips. I was def. considering retaking the LSAT, just a matter of when.finalaspects wrote:they also love accepting students from their own undergrad and you do have the 3.8 gpa going for you. Like crackberry said, take the lsat again and raise your lsat score. The higher you get, the more likely you'll get off the waitlist.crackberry wrote:Retake? They may have waitlisted you solely because they think you might retake. What do you have to lose, other than $136 or whatever and a little time?msch0i wrote:
My stats weren't great...3.81GPA/160lsat at UCLA undergrad. I'm basically riding on academic honors (honors program) and pertinent jobs/extracurriculars/recommendations. UCLA was always my first choice but when I got my lsat score I pretty much gave up hope and submitted the app as a hail mary attempt. Very surprised at the waitlist decision, it just sucks that I'll probably wait until August and not hear anythingNot getting my hopes too high, for obvious reasons.
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