Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle Forum

kapital98 · Post by **kapital98** » Wed May 16, 2012 1:40 am

tropicanax wrote:wow they give so much money to people off waitlists... not even that much to ppl who got in and asked for extra money -_-

It's a sign of desperation to maintain consistent median LSAT/GPA #'s. I wished I waited a year to apply. This cycle is incredibly forgiving to borderline applicants.

onedavetoomany · Post by **onedavetoomany** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:24 am

kapital98 wrote:
tropicanax wrote:wow they give so much money to people off waitlists... not even that much to ppl who got in and asked for extra money -_-
It's a sign of desperation to maintain consistent median LSAT/GPA #'s. I wished I waited a year to apply. This cycle is incredibly forgiving to borderline applicants.

I agree with your general conclusion, but why wouldn't they make reasonable offers to their original admits? It doesn't make sense that waitlist admits get better offers.

ilovesf · Post by **ilovesf** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:27 am

onedavetoomany wrote:
kapital98 wrote:
tropicanax wrote:wow they give so much money to people off waitlists... not even that much to ppl who got in and asked for extra money -_-
It's a sign of desperation to maintain consistent median LSAT/GPA #'s. I wished I waited a year to apply. This cycle is incredibly forgiving to borderline applicants.
I agree with your general conclusion, but why wouldn't they make reasonable offers to their original admits? It doesn't make sense that waitlist admits get better offers.

I can't say this without looking at the specific numbers, but I know that like many schools, Hastings YPs. They do this because they don't think the candidate will actually attend. If the candidate then writes a LOCI and says they want to, then they'll accept them and throw in some money to seal the deal. Not saying that is what is occurring in every case, but it happens.

Manimal · Post by **Manimal** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:15 pm

Does anybody know if Hastings will offer additional scholarship money as their entering class shapes up? I was offered 10,000 grants initially, then a 5,000 scholarship the day before my seat deposit was due. I've since deposited at Hastings and Davis. I can't make up my mind where I'm gonna go. I'm hoping Hastings will offer me a bit more money and seal the deal. Anybody know if Hastings responds to applicants with multiple deposits down? Thanks!

kapital98 · Post by **kapital98** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:37 pm

onedavetoomany wrote:
kapital98 wrote:
tropicanax wrote:wow they give so much money to people off waitlists... not even that much to ppl who got in and asked for extra money -_-
It's a sign of desperation to maintain consistent median LSAT/GPA #'s. I wished I waited a year to apply. This cycle is incredibly forgiving to borderline applicants.
I agree with your general conclusion, but why wouldn't they make reasonable offers to their original admits? It doesn't make sense that waitlist admits get better offers.

They don't care about giving you what you deserve (essentially what your GPA+LSAT is.) They care about getting you into the class so they can use your numbers for rankings. Once you've accepted to go to Hastings they have no incentive to offer you more money.

Unfortunately for Hastings, the number of applicants significantly declined. This was unprecedented and (probably) couldn't be fully accounted for when originally handing out scholarship aid to entice students. Scholarships are based on statistical averages to try to build the best class possible while maintaining profitability.

Waitlist applicants are their last shot at maintaining good numbers. They need to give them as much money as they can to fill in any LSAT/GPA shortfalls. Due to the aberrant nature of this years cycle waitlist applicants, who have still not committed, are more valuable to admission officials than in previous years.

To use a cliche towards students already admitted, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Mon May 21, 2012 9:55 pm

Just go off the waitlist... to those who got off, did your receive you merit/financial aid information over the phone, or did it come in an email later? I am trying to decide between here and USD (18k/yr) and am worried about $$ since they only gave me till Thursday to decide. Sorry if this has been cover in past posts, but I'm and work and don't have time to read through them right now. Any info is appreciated.

masked kavana · Post by **masked kavana** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:56 pm

PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just go off the waitlist... to those who got off, did your receive you merit/financial aid information over the phone, or did it come in an email later? I am trying to decide between here and USD (18k/yr) and am worried about $$ since they only gave me till Thursday to decide. Sorry if this has been cover in past posts, but I'm and work and don't have time to read through them right now. Any info is appreciated.

Did you send in the supplemental form? If you did, call up the financial aid office they should be able to tell you what your award is. Victor is especially helpful.

Good luck!

apollo2015 · Post by **apollo2015** » Tue May 22, 2012 12:28 am

PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just go off the waitlist... to those who got off, did your receive you merit/financial aid information over the phone, or did it come in an email later? I am trying to decide between here and USD (18k/yr) and am worried about $$ since they only gave me till Thursday to decide. Sorry if this has been cover in past posts, but I'm and work and don't have time to read through them right now. Any info is appreciated.

Congratulations on the acceptance!

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Tue May 22, 2012 2:54 pm

masked kavana wrote:
PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just go off the waitlist... to those who got off, did your receive you merit/financial aid information over the phone, or did it come in an email later? I am trying to decide between here and USD (18k/yr) and am worried about $$ since they only gave me till Thursday to decide. Sorry if this has been cover in past posts, but I'm and work and don't have time to read through them right now. Any info is appreciated.
Did you send in the supplemental form? If you did, call up the financial aid office they should be able to tell you what your award is. Victor is especially helpful.

Good luck!

Just sent it in today. Thanks for the info, though!

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Tue May 22, 2012 2:54 pm

apollo2015 wrote:
PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just go off the waitlist... to those who got off, did your receive you merit/financial aid information over the phone, or did it come in an email later? I am trying to decide between here and USD (18k/yr) and am worried about $$ since they only gave me till Thursday to decide. Sorry if this has been cover in past posts, but I'm and work and don't have time to read through them right now. Any info is appreciated.
Congratulations on the acceptance!

Thanks, appreciate it!

LockBox · Post by **LockBox** » Tue May 29, 2012 12:08 pm

Any updates from waitlisters? Any movement?

plaid · Post by **plaid** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:04 pm

I haven't seen any movement from the waitlist. I'm calling them later today, since it's now June and they have yet to send me more information about the waitlist. Nor have they confirmed that they received my email that added someone who can accept an offer on my behalf, as I'm out of the US at the moment.

lowereastside · Post by **lowereastside** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:43 am

I was an original admit last year given no aid (since I didn't qualify for the Hastings grant or merit based aid), but was able to negotiate merit aid with Hastings after depositing because I got into UC Davis off the waitlist. So it is possible to get merit-based aid after the fact, but you have to be lucky (I think the person who originally had my scholarship ended up withdrawing, so Hastings had some money to redistribute) and consider not going to Hastings (which was the position I was in as UC Davis was offering me need-based aid).

As for the expense of deposits, it doesn't hurt to ask the school you end up going to, to see if they would consider reimbursing you for a seat deposit you placed at another school. The worst they can do is say no.

One of the nice things about Hastings is they backload scholarships, so there is a generous amount given to 2L/3L students. A lot of schools give you a lot of money upfront and then have grade stips that mean quite a few people will lose their scholarships. I got less money than other schools were offering, but I think I just have to maintain a 2.0 or a 2.5 (and if I can't do that, I have bigger problems), and there is a scholarship application that lists the scholarships available just for 2L/3Ls.

plaid · Post by **plaid** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:40 am

I just received my first piece of correspondance about Hastings' waitlist. Did anyone else receive this yesterday? (Or in prior weeks?)

"We plan to make a final round of offers of admission from our waitlist in the days ahead. If you would like to be considered for a spot at UC Hastings, please contact me promptly [...] It is important that we receive your email as soon as possible. If you are selected for admission from the wait list, you will receive a telephone call notifying you of that decision. You will be required to make a $500.00 non-refundable deposit to secure your place in the fall class. You may wish to review the wait list requirements on the UC Hastings website at: http://www.uchastings.edu/waitlist.

masked kavana · Post by **masked kavana** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:53 am

plaid wrote:I just received my first piece of correspondance about Hastings' waitlist. Did anyone else receive this yesterday? (Or in prior weeks?)

"We plan to make a final round of offers of admission from our waitlist in the days ahead. If you would like to be considered for a spot at UC Hastings, please contact me promptly [...] It is important that we receive your email as soon as possible. If you are selected for admission from the wait list, you will receive a telephone call notifying you of that decision. You will be required to make a $500.00 non-refundable deposit to secure your place in the fall class. You may wish to review the wait list requirements on the UC Hastings website at: http://www.uchastings.edu/waitlist.

I received it right before being accepted, so hopefully it's a good sign

Just make sure to show a lot of interest - I called when I didn't get a reply back to the email.

Good luck!!

petite chouette · Post by **petite chouette** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:26 pm

masked kavana wrote:
plaid wrote:I just received my first piece of correspondance about Hastings' waitlist. Did anyone else receive this yesterday? (Or in prior weeks?)

"We plan to make a final round of offers of admission from our waitlist in the days ahead. If you would like to be considered for a spot at UC Hastings, please contact me promptly [...] It is important that we receive your email as soon as possible. If you are selected for admission from the wait list, you will receive a telephone call notifying you of that decision. You will be required to make a $500.00 non-refundable deposit to secure your place in the fall class. You may wish to review the wait list requirements on the UC Hastings website at: http://www.uchastings.edu/waitlist.
I received it right before being accepted, so hopefully it's a good sign

Just make sure to show a lot of interest - I called when I didn't get a reply back to the email.

Good luck!!

Aw man do you think it's the end of the road for those of us who didn't get that email?

masked kavana · Post by **masked kavana** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:53 pm

petite chouette wrote:
masked kavana wrote:
plaid wrote:I just received my first piece of correspondance about Hastings' waitlist. Did anyone else receive this yesterday? (Or in prior weeks?)

"We plan to make a final round of offers of admission from our waitlist in the days ahead. If you would like to be considered for a spot at UC Hastings, please contact me promptly [...] It is important that we receive your email as soon as possible. If you are selected for admission from the wait list, you will receive a telephone call notifying you of that decision. You will be required to make a $500.00 non-refundable deposit to secure your place in the fall class. You may wish to review the wait list requirements on the UC Hastings website at: http://www.uchastings.edu/waitlist.
I received it right before being accepted, so hopefully it's a good sign

Just make sure to show a lot of interest - I called when I didn't get a reply back to the email.

Good luck!!
Aw man do you think it's the end of the road for those of us who didn't get that email?

From what it sounds like Hastings is having a lot of waitlist movement.

I don't know if I'd say end of the road, just keep showing interest even if they say not to call or email , get in contact. There's nothing to lose and I really think that's what sets people apart.

martorem · Post by **martorem** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:59 am

masked kavana wrote:
petite chouette wrote:
masked kavana wrote:
plaid wrote:I just received my first piece of correspondance about Hastings' waitlist. Did anyone else receive this yesterday? (Or in prior weeks?)

"We plan to make a final round of offers of admission from our waitlist in the days ahead. If you would like to be considered for a spot at UC Hastings, please contact me promptly [...] It is important that we receive your email as soon as possible. If you are selected for admission from the wait list, you will receive a telephone call notifying you of that decision. You will be required to make a $500.00 non-refundable deposit to secure your place in the fall class. You may wish to review the wait list requirements on the UC Hastings website at: http://www.uchastings.edu/waitlist.
I received it right before being accepted, so hopefully it's a good sign

Just make sure to show a lot of interest - I called when I didn't get a reply back to the email.

Good luck!!
Aw man do you think it's the end of the road for those of us who didn't get that email?
From what it sounds like Hastings is having a lot of waitlist movement.

I don't know if I'd say end of the road, just keep showing interest even if they say not to call or email , get in contact. There's nothing to lose and I really think that's what sets people apart.

Hey guys, I don't think the 'final round of offers' phrasing means they are winding down offers. I got the exact same email before I was admitted off the waitlist two days later, and that was at the beginning of May. I wouldn't be too worried yet! Good luck guys!

petite chouette · Post by **petite chouette** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:52 am

martorem wrote: Hey guys, I don't think the 'final round of offers' phrasing means they are winding down offers. I got the exact same email before I was admitted off the waitlist two days later, and that was at the beginning of May. I wouldn't be too worried yet! Good luck guys!

Haha "limited time only!!!" style marketing tactic? Thanks for the confidence booster at least!

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:01 pm

Just wanted to get some thoughts on this... I just got a scholarship upgrade at Brooklyn for 35.5k/year with top 80% stip. Do you think it's worth a shot to try to negotiate with this, or will they pretty much just laugh at this attempt? As of right now I haven't gotten my financial aid award, or notified whether I got a scholarship/grant yet, but I just got pulled off the waitlist back on May 23. I mean, the worst they can say is "no," I guess. Thoughts?

martorem · Post by **martorem** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:09 pm

PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just wanted to get some thoughts on this... I just got a scholarship upgrade at Brooklyn for 35.5k/year with top 80% stip. Do you think it's worth a shot to try to negotiate with this, or will they pretty much just laugh at this attempt? As of right now I haven't gotten my financial aid award, or notified whether I got a scholarship/grant yet, but I just got pulled off the waitlist back on May 23. I mean, the worst they can say is "no," I guess. Thoughts?

Did you send in the financial aid forms to Hastings? I'm surprised you haven't gotten your offer yet. I was admitted off the waitlist on a Friday night, submitted my financial aid forms on Monday, and had my offer Tuesday. I would send an email to financial aid and cc Dean Canada asking for an update and giving them all your scholarship offers.

Edit: Also, how long did you get to accept or reject the offer? I only had one week. Did you send in a deposit anyways?

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:56 pm

martorem wrote:
PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just wanted to get some thoughts on this... I just got a scholarship upgrade at Brooklyn for 35.5k/year with top 80% stip. Do you think it's worth a shot to try to negotiate with this, or will they pretty much just laugh at this attempt? As of right now I haven't gotten my financial aid award, or notified whether I got a scholarship/grant yet, but I just got pulled off the waitlist back on May 23. I mean, the worst they can say is "no," I guess. Thoughts?
Did you send in the financial aid forms to Hastings? I'm surprised you haven't gotten your offer yet. I was admitted off the waitlist on a Friday night, submitted my financial aid forms on Monday, and had my offer Tuesday. I would send an email to financial aid and cc Dean Canada asking for an update and giving them all your scholarship offers.

Edit: Also, how long did you get to accept or reject the offer? I only had one week. Did you send in a deposit anyways?

Yea, I faxed over my form the day after I accepted the offer and paid the deposit... emailed financial aid yesterday, but haven't heard back from them yet. They gave me a week to accept or reject the offer, I think?

lowereastside · Post by **lowereastside** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:28 pm

PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just wanted to get some thoughts on this... I just got a scholarship upgrade at Brooklyn for 35.5k/year with top 80% stip. Do you think it's worth a shot to try to negotiate with this, or will they pretty much just laugh at this attempt? As of right now I haven't gotten my financial aid award, or notified whether I got a scholarship/grant yet, but I just got pulled off the waitlist back on May 23. I mean, the worst they can say is "no," I guess. Thoughts?

Definitely do it. Like you said, worst they can say is no. Which is why they said to me, but my Brooklyn scholarship was not nearly as generous as yours (I think I had a top 40% stip or something). Only drawback is it might not work. Hastings never budged when I had just the Brooklyn scholarship, but perked up when I let them know about UC Davis. Good luck!

PizzaShrapnel · Post by **PizzaShrapnel** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:25 pm

lowereastside wrote:
PizzaShrapnel wrote:Just wanted to get some thoughts on this... I just got a scholarship upgrade at Brooklyn for 35.5k/year with top 80% stip. Do you think it's worth a shot to try to negotiate with this, or will they pretty much just laugh at this attempt? As of right now I haven't gotten my financial aid award, or notified whether I got a scholarship/grant yet, but I just got pulled off the waitlist back on May 23. I mean, the worst they can say is "no," I guess. Thoughts?
Definitely do it. Like you said, worst they can say is no. Which is why they said to me, but my Brooklyn scholarship was not nearly as generous as yours (I think I had a top 40% stip or something). Only drawback is it might not work. Hastings never budged when I had just the Brooklyn scholarship, but perked up when I let them know about UC Davis. Good luck!

Yea, definitely ended up being worth it. Gave me enough to convince me I'm gonna be attending.

LockBox · Post by **LockBox** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:38 pm

Any more movement here?

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