Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013) Forum

[edamame]

Also, Sabanist (and others), I'm from a mid-tier public school. We send 8-10 kids to HLS each year. Undergrad doesn't seem to matter as much for HLS. But for CLS, SLS, and YLS, it's a different story. Very few from my school are lucky enough to be admitted there.

8-10 is "very few"?

Nobody from my undergrad has gotten into HLS since like 1980.

No very few (i.e. one or two) get into the others (Columbia, Stanford, Yale).

[mustached]

Also, Sabanist (and others), I'm from a mid-tier public school. We send 8-10 kids to HLS each year. Undergrad doesn't seem to matter as much for HLS. But for CLS, SLS, and YLS, it's a different story. Very few from my school are lucky enough to be admitted there.

8-10 is "very few"?

Nobody from my undergrad has gotten into HLS since like 1980.

I hear that.

I wouldn't be surprised if I'm literally the first person from my undergrad to ever even get a JS1 at HLS. And it's been around since 1923.

I guarantee you there's not more than 3.

[wert3813]

Hey all good news! Just got a post hold js1 today! Complete 12/10 held Feb 14 I think and just got the js 1 at 2 pm PST. Number in profile

Congrats!

Football playing ability>football mugging ability>machine-ing ability>academic ability

Look right?

dead @ machine-ing.
very accurate.

Point is, there's hope for the public school proles at HLS.

@edamame sorry for bad quoting

Hmm I wonder if people on here would consider your school mid tier. Sabinist and I go to different large publics that would consider themselves mid tier. Mine has one at harvard total and id be shocked if hers has more than 3.

Anyway, it was just an observation, I didn't mean to disparage anyone or any school.

[edamame]

At least people have heard of your school.

And this still doesn't help me

fair point. and sorry

Or... HLS is below median for National Championships this cycle?

seriously guys I'm dying here. lololololol

Congratulations, Tekumamba. Also, Sabanist (and others), I'm from a mid-tier public school. We send 8-10 kids to HLS each year. Undergrad doesn't seem to matter as much for HLS. But for CLS, SLS, and YLS, it's a different story. Very few from my school are lucky enough to be admitted there.

8-10? Impressive. I'm the only one I know of, and one of my LOR professors said she'd never heard of someone going to HLS from here. One of my bros is held, though.
I think my UG is a big part of the reason I haven't heard from YLS yet (and will probably get bad news).

I agree. My undergrad is also one of the reasons I haven't heard from YLS (and it will also be bad news in my case). But it was all my family could afford, and I wouldn't take on crazy amounts of debt just for undergrad.

Also, at least your undergrad has good sports teams. We used to be good... like six years ago or so.

[sinfiery]

8-10 is "very few"?

Nobody from my undergrad has gotten into HLS since like 1980.

Same, but probably never instead of 1980. The only data I saw had the highest acceptance being at UVA so I'm already a trailblazer
Also, my school has like 30000 kids

[edamame]

Hey all good news! Just got a post hold js1 today! Complete 12/10 held Feb 14 I think and just got the js 1 at 2 pm PST. Number in profile

Congrats!

Football playing ability>football mugging ability>machine-ing ability>academic ability

Look right?

dead @ machine-ing.
very accurate.

Point is, there's hope for the public school proles at HLS.

Hmm I wonder if people on here would consider your school mid tier. Sabinist and I go to different large publics that would consider themselves mid tier. Mine has one at harvard total and id be shocked if hers has more than 3.

Anyway, it was just an observation, I didn't mean to disparage anyone or any school.

No problem! Hmmm, maybe I can "out" my undergrad after my cycle is over.

[Eli]

Also, Sabanist (and others), I'm from a mid-tier public school. We send 8-10 kids to HLS each year. Undergrad doesn't seem to matter as much for HLS. But for CLS, SLS, and YLS, it's a different story. Very few from my school are lucky enough to be admitted there.

8-10 is "very few"?

Nobody from my undergrad has gotten into HLS since like 1980.

Ditto. Though edamame's quote is rather depressing.. it's only a matter of time before Yale rejects me, but if I wish upon a star will they overlook my non-Ivy education and give me a fighting chance..?

Anyway it's good news for Harvard applicants!

PS My UG was NEVER good at sports. Never. Never ever ever.

[Lavitz]

No very few (i.e. one or two) get into the others (Columbia, Stanford, Yale).

Sorry, RC fail on my part.

Still, nobody's even gotten into Columbia in the last 10 years either.

[edamame]

Also, Sabanist (and others), I'm from a mid-tier public school. We send 8-10 kids to HLS each year. Undergrad doesn't seem to matter as much for HLS. But for CLS, SLS, and YLS, it's a different story. Very few from my school are lucky enough to be admitted there.

8-10 is "very few"?

Nobody from my undergrad has gotten into HLS since like 1980.

Ditto. Though edamame's quote is rather depressing.. it's only a matter of time before Yale rejects me, but if I wish upon a star will they overlook my non-Ivy education and give me a fighting chance..?

Anyway it's good news for Harvard applicants!

PS My UG was NEVER good at sports. Never. Never ever ever.

Sorry! If it makes you feel any better, my prelaw advisor compiled a list of schools that accepted more than 5 of us. If I remember correctly, Harvard, Thomas Jefferson, and Cooley were on that list, so we have students at both ends of the spectrum. lol

[d330]

JS2.

God is good.

PM me if you'd like any details.

Congrats.

[sabanist]

Also, at least your undergrad has good sports teams. We used to be good... like six years ago or so.

We do have that. As much as I'd like to land Yale, the student ticket prices might have been worth the opportunity cost

[az21833]

After looking through every single person in the Harvard FB group. Ain't no way undergrad doesn't matter. That TLSism isn't true for the very top at least.

just joined to find 10 other facebook friends in the group. feel much less special lol. ivy UG to tie back to your observation

[wert3813]

After looking through every single person in the Harvard FB group. Ain't no way undergrad doesn't matter. That TLSism isn't true for the very top at least.

just joined to find 10 other facebook friends in the group. feel much less special lol. ivy UG to tie back to your observation

So you weren't the person from [your hometown] who was added this morning? Ha it didn't seem like you.

[Eli]

Alright, I'm going to eat my words after glimpsing over the facebook group. All but about three on the first page (not counting people who didn't report) come from really good/well-known schools. Crazy how many Harvards there are, too.

Thinking back on it, I didn't matricute at Harvard, but I do have some Harvard on my transcript. Maybe that cancels out my lowly UG. :/

[wert3813]

Alright, I'm going to eat my words after glimpsing over the facebook group. All but about three on the first page (not counting people who didn't report) come from really good/well-known schools. Crazy how many Harvards there are, too.

Thinking back on it, I didn't matricute at Harvard, but I do have some Harvard on my transcript. Maybe that cancels out my lowly UG. :/

Yah. In fairness to Edamame her school is absolutely mid-tier so I was wrong to question her. They just "outkick their coverage" so to speak.

[az21833]

After looking through every single person in the Harvard FB group. Ain't no way undergrad doesn't matter. That TLSism isn't true for the very top at least.

just joined to find 10 other facebook friends in the group. feel much less special lol. ivy UG to tie back to your observation

So you weren't the person from [your hometown] who was added this morning? Ha it didn't seem like you.

whoa whoa theres another person from [insert hometown] in there? PM me immediately. no im not in group but can see whose in it at this pt

also i need to know what schools we are referring to here after hearing all this commentary lol

[jbagelboy]

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[TrustInMusic]

TLS sleuths at their finest.

[edamame]

After looking through every single person in the Harvard FB group. Ain't no way undergrad doesn't matter. That TLSism isn't true for the very top at least.

just joined to find 10 other facebook friends in the group. feel much less special lol. ivy UG to tie back to your observation

So you weren't the person from [your hometown] who was added this morning? Ha it didn't seem like you.

whoa whoa theres another person from [insert hometown] in there? PM me immediately. no im not in group but can see whose in it at this pt

also i need to know what schools we are referring to here after hearing all this commentary lol

Relax. You'll find out after my cycle is over. It's a mid-tier state school.

[Jaqen]

For those of you who did go to mid tier large public schools, im curious why you did so? If you did well enough on the lsat to be considered for harvard law then you had to crush the SAT, and you must not be total slackers so AP classes wouldnt have ben very tough. There is also momentum from the supply end, i.e. kids from top schools test better so its more likely they would make up a larger % of the class at top LS.

My high school didn't even have AP classes.

[edamame]

For those of you who did go to mid tier large public schools, im curious why you did so? If you did well enough on the lsat to be considered for harvard law then you had to crush the SAT, and you must not be total slackers so AP classes wouldnt have ben very tough. There is also momentum from the supply end, i.e. kids from top schools test better so its more likely they would make up a larger % of the class at top LS.

You're 100% correct. My parents couldn't afford to send me to a private undergrad and highly questioned the value of doing so, especially since I knew I wanted to go to a law school. Ultimately, I knew that undergrad didn't matter if I did well enough to get into a good grad school. I did get into better public schools (out-of-state schools) and great private colleges. I just decided the $50,000 / year wasn't worth it, especially if you combine that with law school tuition. Also, my undergrad was really generous with AP credit, allowing me to skip basic classes and take exciting seminars.

I've had a great experience at a public school. I have no regrets. My undergrad is way ahead of where I went to high school, lol. I see a lot of my high school classmates going to schools that don't have as great programs (and employment prospects) as mine does. I'm so glad I chose a (relatively) good school that's above average in most categories. And I'm super, super glad I saved my money.

[wert3813]

For those of you who did go to mid tier large public schools, im curious why you did so? If you did well enough on the lsat to be considered for harvard law then you had to crush the SAT, and you must not be total slackers so AP classes wouldnt have ben very tough.

Two fold: First, 33ACT/1420 SAT 4.0 doesn't get what you might think. I did only take one AP class my junior year and made a two, although I had a broken dominant arm (I took a ton senior year and made fours and fives, but it's to late by then). Dinged at HY Duke G'town WL @BC (lol) That left Vanderbilt at sticker or [big state school squarely in the mid tier] for basically free.

Second, my parents told me they would either help pay for UG or Grad school. I had no clue what I wanted to do at 17. I didn't under Vanderbilt but me on a better life track than [BSSSITMT] so I chose the honors college at [BSSSITMT] got to register before seniors, had the best teachers, small class sizes, and a quality of discourse in class that was decent because they were honors classes.

It worked out. But if I'd made a 3.6 in college (and let's be clear I had no clue how important a 4.0 was in college) I'd be screwed right now.

There is also momentum from the supply end, i.e. kids from top schools test better so its more likely they would make up a larger % of the class at top LS.

Some but enough to account for all of this. Think about this 62K is rough the enrollment of all the Ivies. Ohio State has 40K by itself. One school.

[Lavitz]

For those of you who did go to mid tier large public schools, im curious why you did so? If you did well enough on the lsat to be considered for harvard law then you had to crush the SAT, and you must not be total slackers so AP classes wouldnt have ben very tough. There is also momentum from the supply end, i.e. kids from top schools test better so its more likely they would make up a larger % of the class at top LS.

Didn't got to a mid-tier large public school so I guess I'm not eligible to respond to this, lol.

[sabanist]

For those of you who did go to mid tier large public schools, im curious why you did so? If you did well enough on the lsat to be considered for harvard law then you had to crush the SAT, and you must not be total slackers so AP classes wouldnt have ben very tough. There is also momentum from the supply end, i.e. kids from top schools test better so its more likely they would make up a larger % of the class at top LS.

I think a lot of it was the environment I grew up in. Rural Georgia doesn't exactly have a lot of Ivy grads floating around, encouraging kids to shoot for the stars. My high school has a 40% attrition rate from 9th grade to graduation; my sister was one of the dropouts. Graduating was a huge success in my hometown, so going to a big state school was cause for a parade.
If I'd known my SAT score had Ivy potential, I might have applied. But I figured I'd be going up against thousands of 2400s and saw no point. I was happy with what I got - a full tuition scholly to my UG - so I took that.
Sometimes I wonder what if, but I've had a good time.

so I chose the honors college at [BSSSITMT] got to register before seniors, had the best teachers, small class sizes, and a quality of discourse in class that was decent because they were honors classes.

This was also the case for me.
Wert, you and I may need to have a talk

[domino]

People are less savvy about test prep in high school, too. I went to a middle-of-the-road public HS, and the most go-getter students maybe halfheartedly worked through part of a Princeton Review book.

Sabanist, did you see this article already?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/educa ... es.html?hp

Also in this op-ed someone talks about a similar experience:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/opini ... ml?hp&_r=0