TLS c/o 2020 - In #Squad We Trust Forum

[SybillAnnDorsett]

Why does it matter how the waitlist works? You shouldn't sit on one if you know you aren't going. I can't imagine holding a seat that could go to somebody who actually wants to attend. & if this isn't how the WL works, then I can't imagine being so greedy, selfish, or stupid that I'd sit on a waitlist for a school I know I'm not going to.

Like R Paradela said, he's withdrawing from where he knows he won't go. Think that's just what everyone should stick to. Hearing some people say it doesn't help to take yourself off tells me that they are staying on for the hell of it.

Zont zo zat!!

[chandhi]

I don't really think taking your name off the waitlist helps other people.. If they decided they had a spot and took you off the waitlist but you declined, the spot would just go to someone else. You might be slowing things done a bit, but the numbers still look the same

Pretty sure that's not how it works. If there are less names on the waitlist, then when they go to pick people, you have a better chance of getting accepted.

I think it would rarely help. When schools go to the WL they are looking for specific needs, so its more of whether or not you fit the need, not whether there are 400 versus 500 people on the WL.

Yeah but I, for example, have pretty common stats. If there are 10 of us with similar stats on the waitlist and the 3 of us with good options withdraw, that could definitely shake things up for the remaining 7 people.

[SybillAnnDorsett]

Yeah but I, for example, have pretty common stats. If there are 10 of us with similar stats on the waitlist and the 3 of us with good options withdraw, that could definitely shake things up for the remaining 7 people.

Exactly.

[jhc14]

Why does it matter how the waitlist works? You shouldn't sit on one if you know you aren't going. I can't imagine holding a seat that could go to somebody who actually wants to attend. & if this isn't how the WL works, then I can't imagine being so greedy, selfish, or stupid that I'd sit on a waitlist for a school I know I'm not going to.

Like R Paradela said, he's withdrawing from where he knows he won't go. Think that's just what everyone should stick to. Hearing some people say it doesn't help to take yourself off tells me that they are staying on for the hell of it.

Zont zo zat!!

preach

[chargers21]

Sending in my first withdrawal today to a safety where I had a full ride. Finally coming to terms with the fact that I am going to just have to take on the debt elsewhere

[chargers21]

When you decline the acceptance off the waitlist, it essentially has the same effect as withdrawing from the waitlist. The school will just go to the next person down the list that meets the requirements. I'm clinging to my 2 waitlists because if I got offered a sizeable scholly I would consider either one, but chances are they won't and I might have to decline an acceptance later on

[dietcoke1]

I can understand people are trying to be considerate in withdrawing but there is absolutely no upside to withdrawing from a WL. I'm not sure why people care if they withdraw now because if they are offered a spot off a WL then they would decline later and it would go to the next in line anyways.

[Sarastro]

I can understand people are trying to be considerate in withdrawing but there is absolutely no upside to withdrawing from a WL. I'm not sure why people care if they withdraw now because if they are offered a spot off a WL then they would decline later and it would go to the next in line anyways.

TCR

[chargers21]

Sorry for blowing up the thread, but 1 page double spaced is plenty for a why x/LOCI, isn't it?

[Hennessy]

Sorry for blowing up the thread, but 1 page double spaced is plenty for a why x/LOCI, isn't it?

yes LOCI should definitely not be more than 1pg., whether double or single spaced

[chargers21]

Sorry for blowing up the thread, but 1 page double spaced is plenty for a why x/LOCI, isn't it?

yes LOCI should definitely not be more than 1pg., whether double or single spaced

currently working on my solicited why Texas

[largemarge26]

How many waitlists is everyone riding?

six still trying to figure out if a school in top 20 is worth paying sticker (or close to it) vs. a school in the 20-40 with scholarships. Guess I will cross that bridge is I get to it?

[chargers21]

How many waitlists is everyone riding?

six still trying to figure out if a school in top 20 is worth paying sticker (or close to it) vs. a school in the 20-40 with scholarships. Guess I will cross that bridge is I get to it?

Don't pay sticker to a non-T13 unless it has a generous in-state price and you are in state, like UT

[jhc14]

Sending in my first withdrawal today to a safety where I had a full ride. Finally coming to terms with the fact that I am going to just have to take on the debt elsewhere

Do you have another admitted that you're considering? A full ride seems like a good safety to keep until you have all your options, unless you're really not interested in actually going there

Edit: Not tryna be be nosy just curious how other's are making decisions about waitlists and withdrawals

[largemarge26]

How many waitlists is everyone riding?

six still trying to figure out if a school in top 20 is worth paying sticker (or close to it) vs. a school in the 20-40 with scholarships. Guess I will cross that bridge is I get to it?

Don't pay sticker to a non-T13 unless it has a generous in-state price and you are in state, like UT

That's what I've been hearing- Thanks Chargers21. A tad bummed though because I am not thrilled on my acceptance options but it'll all workout.

[Stylnator]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

[chargers21]

Sending in my first withdrawal today to a safety where I had a full ride. Finally coming to terms with the fact that I am going to just have to take on the debt elsewhere

Do you have another admitted that you're considering? A full ride seems like a good safety to keep until you have all your options, unless you're really not interested in actually going there

Edit: Not tryna be be nosy just curious how other's are making decisions about waitlists and withdrawals

I have another full ride + stipend from my in-state school that's a t30 that I would take over the t20 in an area I don't want to live in. I'm about to withdraw from it too because I'd sooner sit out than go there, too, I'm thinking. I am basically decising between 2 t13 schools that I really want to attend at this point

[chargers21]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

I'm going to break out the dart board and throw at it blindfolded. Lots of debt or crippling debt are the 2 options

[chargers21]

How many waitlists is everyone riding?

six still trying to figure out if a school in top 20 is worth paying sticker (or close to it) vs. a school in the 20-40 with scholarships. Guess I will cross that bridge is I get to it?

Don't pay sticker to a non-T13 unless it has a generous in-state price and you are in state, like UT

That's what I've been hearing- Thanks Chargers21. A tad bummed though because I am not thrilled on my acceptance options but it'll all workout.

Best of luck, I hope you get a deal on a school in a location you want

[alpha kenny body]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

I'm going to break out the dart board and throw at it blindfolded. Lots of debt or crippling debt are the 2 options

As a 1L you can always renegotiate scholly, so you may not pay as much as you originally calculated. "Hey School, my grades are tight, and I need to not be so stressed, give me some money." Especially if people with good grades transfer, or you use the prospect of transferring as leverage, etc., they'll definitely be amenable. Also too, if you cop the 1L SA, that's like 10k you could put towards debt.

[alpha kenny body]

I can understand people are trying to be considerate in withdrawing but there is absolutely no upside to withdrawing from a WL. I'm not sure why people care if they withdraw now because if they are offered a spot off a WL then they would decline later and it would go to the next in line anyways.

TCR

Not quite TCR. You could use withdrawing as a signal at another school you're waitlisted at as a way to show your interest by telling them you withdrew other apps, especially if they're peer schools. Also, it could reduce the time that someone else has to wait to get accepted, and thus move on with their lives. Finally, reducing the waitlist pool means that the school may accept reaches that may not have had a shot if there were more applicants in the pool. It's similar to staying in a relationship that you're no longer interested in, and have no intention of marrying that person, why hang on if there are no benefits and youre just going to dump them later on anyways?

[chargers21]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

I'm going to break out the dart board and throw at it blindfolded. Lots of debt or crippling debt are the 2 options

As a 1L you can always renegotiate scholly, so you may not pay as much as you originally calculated. "Hey School, my grades are tight, and I need to not be so stressed, give me some money." Especially if people with good grades transfer, or you use the prospect of transferring as leverage, etc., they'll definitely be amenable. Also too, if you cop the 1L SA, that's like 10k you could put towards debt.

I don't think t10 schools are too concerned with transferring out. Plus, non-diversity candidate so 1L SA seems far fetched for me.

[Rubbishdump]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

I'm going to break out the dart board and throw at it blindfolded. Lots of debt or crippling debt are the 2 options

As a 1L you can always renegotiate scholly, so you may not pay as much as you originally calculated. "Hey School, my grades are tight, and I need to not be so stressed, give me some money." Especially if people with good grades transfer, or you use the prospect of transferring as leverage, etc., they'll definitely be amenable. Also too, if you cop the 1L SA, that's like 10k you could put towards debt.

Can you really?

[alpha kenny body]

To those who have tough decisions coming up, how is everyone deciding their options? Pro/con lists? Family/friends?

I'm so torn I literally don't know how to even begin to approach deciding on a school.

I'm going to break out the dart board and throw at it blindfolded. Lots of debt or crippling debt are the 2 options

As a 1L you can always renegotiate scholly, so you may not pay as much as you originally calculated. "Hey School, my grades are tight, and I need to not be so stressed, give me some money." Especially if people with good grades transfer, or you use the prospect of transferring as leverage, etc., they'll definitely be amenable. Also too, if you cop the 1L SA, that's like 10k you could put towards debt.

I don't think t10 schools are too concerned with transferring out. Plus, non-diversity candidate so 1L SA seems far fetched for me.

Dont be so sure about that. Attrition is a factor in rankings. WashU is infamous for having high attrition rates, leading them to be referred to as the stepping stone school into the t14. Also too, If youre networking and grades are tight, youll have a good shot, especially at a better ranked school. I think you could afford to be more risk acerse. Regardless if you dont get a 1L SA, youll be able to snag a 2L one. Also, possibly a clerkship. There are also plenty of other non-governmental scholarships.

[dietcoke1]

I can understand people are trying to be considerate in withdrawing but there is absolutely no upside to withdrawing from a WL. I'm not sure why people care if they withdraw now because if they are offered a spot off a WL then they would decline later and it would go to the next in line anyways.

TCR

Not quite TCR. You could use withdrawing as a signal at another school you're waitlisted at as a way to show your interest by telling them you withdrew other apps, especially if they're peer schools. Also, it could reduce the time that someone else has to wait to get accepted, and thus move on with their lives. Finally, reducing the waitlist pool means that the school may accept reaches that may not have had a shot if there were more applicants in the pool. It's similar to staying in a relationship that you're no longer interested in, and have no intention of marrying that person, why hang on if there are no benefits and youre just going to dump them later on anyways?

I get these points, except the relationship part might be a stretch because there are some serious potential benefits. There is a small chance of negotiating with a school I've deposited at based off an offer I'm receiving off a WL and I think there is nothing wrong with trying to maximize this small chance by staying on as many WL as possible if I think it could help. The chances are small of being able to do that, I recognize that, but I see no harm in maximizing my opportunities.