If it did mean something it would also mean they're doing more work and making things more complicated for themselves...so Occam's razor says no. They're all professionals trying to make a professional judgement and ask largely the same questions, I hear.lawapp2014 wrote:Does being interviewed by JS mean anything, or is the interviewer randomly assigned?
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YOU choose schedule, not they.EquallyWrong wrote:If it did mean something it would also mean they're doing more work and making things more complicated for themselves...so Occam's razor says no. They're all professionals trying to make a professional judgement and ask largely the same questions, I hear.lawapp2014 wrote:Does being interviewed by JS mean anything, or is the interviewer randomly assigned?
SO that answers your question.
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When are they going to start accepting we at/slightly below medians, non-URM people? WAHHH! they have to take some of us? right? RIGHT?
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Everyone, I know the waiting has been hard, but I have great news:
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pseu wrote:Everyone, I know the waiting has been hard, but I have great news:
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Do K-JD applicants have a serious disadvantage when applying to HLS? Look what happened to this guy last year:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/milesperhour
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I know that a number of K-JDs have gotten in (and with worse numbers than that guy), but I feel like it's a disadvantage.
Interesting that he got into Yale but was flat out rejected at Harvard about 15 days after his JS1.
Interesting that he got into Yale but was flat out rejected at Harvard about 15 days after his JS1.
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It is sort of interesting about Y/H since that doesn't happen too often, but it could have been a "fit" thing or an awesome 250 for Yale. Maybe the personal statement was about a desire to be an academic or to save orphans in Bolivia...or both recommenders were YLS alums. I don't think it's good to try to draw too many inferences based on numbers alone.drawstring wrote:I know that a number of K-JDs have gotten in (and with worse numbers than that guy), but I feel like it's a disadvantage.
Interesting that he got into Yale but was flat out rejected at Harvard about 15 days after his JS1.
And while some work experience is obviously seen as a plus, 30+ applicants like myself will probably have a harder time justifying Why Law School. And are we held to a higher standard on LSAT? Obviously your writing/logical reasoning skills increase during grad school and while being engaged in a challenging work environment.
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I was looking at that too. His numbers are similar to mine and I'm also a K-JD.drawstring wrote:I know that a number of K-JDs have gotten in (and with worse numbers than that guy), but I feel like it's a disadvantage.
Interesting that he got into Yale but was flat out rejected at Harvard about 15 days after his JS1.
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Similar numbers and K-JD here too.
He seems pretty exceptional. For the most part it seems like a large majority of people that get JS1s at least make it to the waitlist, and a 15 day turnaround from JS1 to rejection is very rare for someone above both medians. In the past candidates like us who interviewed fairly early but hadn't heard back at this point were held, and I believe late March is when held candidates started getting in. There are also a number of numerically strong applicants who get in off the waitlist each year. Keep in mind that the last couple of waves have included a small number of Oct/Nov JS1s, so they have at least started looking back, even if most of their re-reading happens at a later point in the cycle.
He seems pretty exceptional. For the most part it seems like a large majority of people that get JS1s at least make it to the waitlist, and a 15 day turnaround from JS1 to rejection is very rare for someone above both medians. In the past candidates like us who interviewed fairly early but hadn't heard back at this point were held, and I believe late March is when held candidates started getting in. There are also a number of numerically strong applicants who get in off the waitlist each year. Keep in mind that the last couple of waves have included a small number of Oct/Nov JS1s, so they have at least started looking back, even if most of their re-reading happens at a later point in the cycle.
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So far, It looks like everyone who got a JS2 with numbers similar to ours (or worse) had a decent amount of work experience. Maybe that might be what is holding us back at this point. Have you seen many K-JDs yet?drawstring wrote:Similar numbers and K-JD here too.
He seems pretty exceptional. For the most part it seems like a high majority of people that get JS1s make it to the waitlist, and a 15 day turnaround from JS1 to rejection is very rare for someone above both medians. In the past candidates like us who interviewed fairly early but hadn't heard back at this point were held, and I believe late March is when held candidates started getting in. There are also a number of numerically strong applicants who get in off the waitlist each year. Keep in mind that the last couple of waves have included a small number of Oct/Nov JS1s, so they have at least started looking back, even if most of their re-reading happens at a later point in the cycle.
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I know there are some in this thread that have gotten in with similar numbers.
That said, I believe scoobers posted a chart suggesting that K-JDs within a certain numbers range were having more trouble getting in than people with WE in the same range. A current HLS student also said that they're trying to limit the number of K-JDs they admit, and a program was recently created for Harvard undergrads that allows them to apply but defer for two years to gain WE. So it seems like WE is being stressed and that probably hurts us as K-JDs, especially since our numbers are good but not amazing.
That said, I believe scoobers posted a chart suggesting that K-JDs within a certain numbers range were having more trouble getting in than people with WE in the same range. A current HLS student also said that they're trying to limit the number of K-JDs they admit, and a program was recently created for Harvard undergrads that allows them to apply but defer for two years to gain WE. So it seems like WE is being stressed and that probably hurts us as K-JDs, especially since our numbers are good but not amazing.
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It's possible that he completely bombed his JS1.drawstring wrote:I know that a number of K-JDs have gotten in (and with worse numbers than that guy), but I feel like it's a disadvantage.
Interesting that he got into Yale but was flat out rejected at Harvard about 15 days after his JS1.
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FWIW, Dean Minow told the AFA that she has been actively trying to shift the admissions focus away from K-JDs and admit more students with work experience. That's apparently why they're up to 75% with at least one year out.
But then, she was talking to the AFA.
But then, she was talking to the AFA.
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At the info session I attended, the Associate Director of Admissions explicitly stated that being K-JD would put you at a disadvantage when compared against applicants who have work experience.TripTrip wrote:FWIW, Dean Minow told the AFA that she has been actively trying to shift the admissions focus away from K-JDs and admit more students with work experience. That's apparently why they're up to 75% with at least one year out.
But then, she was talking to the AFA.
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Hahahahah my app must have some glaring errors/weaknesses because I have some pretty good work experience and plenty of K-JDs have gotten in over meohpobrecito wrote:At the info session I attended, the Associate Director of Admissions explicitly stated that being K-JD would put you at a disadvantage when compared against applicants who have work experience.TripTrip wrote:FWIW, Dean Minow told the AFA that she has been actively trying to shift the admissions focus away from K-JDs and admit more students with work experience. That's apparently why they're up to 75% with at least one year out.
But then, she was talking to the AFA.
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C'mon HLS, be a bro and send me that JS1.
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Honestly, I don't mind it if it comes a bit later, since I am hoping to have my Northwestern interview before it for practice, and that is the 14th, but paranoia has got my nerves running.
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Maybe he said something terribly inappropriate during his JS1...drawstring wrote:Similar numbers and K-JD here too.
He seems pretty exceptional. For the most part it seems like a high majority of people that get JS1s make it to the waitlist, and a 15 day turnaround from JS1 to rejection is very rare for someone above both medians. In the past candidates like us who interviewed fairly early but hadn't heard back at this point were held, and I believe late March is when held candidates started getting in. There are also a number of numerically strong applicants who get in off the waitlist each year. Keep in mind that the last couple of waves have included a small number of Oct/Nov JS1s, so they have at least started looking back, even if most of their re-reading happens at a later point in the cycle.
I think that generally the JS1 has a limited positive effect on the admissions decision, it's 10 minutes over Skype vs. the last 4+ years of your life. However, people can weed themselves out with their JS1 if they say something blatantly unprofessional/negative. Do no harm, people.
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+1,000,000NoDayButToday wrote:+2Pau.C. wrote:+1Theopliske8711 wrote:C'mon HLS, be a bro and send me that JS1.
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hwannabe1234 wrote:YOU choose schedule, not they.EquallyWrong wrote:If it did mean something it would also mean they're doing more work and making things more complicated for themselves...so Occam's razor says no. They're all professionals trying to make a professional judgement and ask largely the same questions, I hear.lawapp2014 wrote:Does being interviewed by JS mean anything, or is the interviewer randomly assigned?
SO that answers your question.
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