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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by Lightworks » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:14 pm

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by tk17 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:34 pm

Lightworks wrote:
51.6% of black law students graduate in the bottom-10th of their classes (as opposed to 5.6% of white students).
71.4% in the bottom 20th (12.8% of white students).

Only 8% of black law students graduate at or above median in their class (67.2% of white students do).
(One of) The problem(s) with this sort of analysis is that you can't compare percentages when you have such drastically different sample sizes.

I don't know am too lazy to look up the actual figures, but I think 70% white, 20% black, 10% other is a not unreasonable hypothetical for an imaginary law school's student body demographics.

This means that it would be statistically impossible for any less than 28.6% of the white students to finish above the median, while theoretically the entire black student population could finish below the median.

Similarly, if only black students comprised the bottom 10%, it would be 50% of the black students while an all white bottom 10% would only be 14% of the white students.

I would wager (I could actually look it up, but again, I'm lazy) that my hypothetical assumes a more diverse student body than actually exists. Which means that the numbers above would be even more skewed than they are. So these comparisons are totally relatively meaningless.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by theramblingfool » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:39 pm

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by tk17 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:39 pm

tk17 wrote: I would wager (I could actually look it up, but again, I'm lazy) that my hypothetical assumes a more diverse student body than actually exists. Which means that the numbers above would be even more skewed than they are. So these comparisons are totally relatively meaningless.
Ok. So I was curious. In 2013, 3,654 of 39,675 total matriculants were AA. That's 9.2%.

So really. Comparing percentages of AA students that finish above a certain line to percentages of non-urm students is statistically useless.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by OhBoyOhBortles » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:45 pm

Have any of the ED applicants who were rolled over to RD heard back yet?

Op: Can we get a new poll about next date of admissions wave?

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by FloridaCoastalorbust » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:49 pm

did any RD admits get offered the full $150k or is that only possible after the needaccess form is submitted? I saw RDs from last year who got the full ride as well on LSN.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by OhBoyOhBortles » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:30 pm

Per the 2017 thread, there was a Jan 15 wave last year (Wednesday) so I think Wednesday the 14th, Thursday the 15th, and Friday the 16th should all be options, along with a few more pessimistic options i.e. Wednesday the 21st, Friday the 23rd, and the ever-popular Literally Never.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by ChemEng1642 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:36 pm

theramblingfool wrote:
OhBoyOhBortles wrote:Per the 2017 thread, there was a Jan 15 wave last year (Wednesday) so I think Wednesday the 14th, Thursday the 15th, and Friday the 16th should all be options, along with a few more pessimistic options i.e. Wednesday the 21st, Friday the 23rd, and the ever-popular Literally Never.

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NU is my first choice. I'd like to stop wondering. To that end, I know for a fact a wave of decisions will come out today. :)
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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by LoganCouture » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:37 pm

OhBoyOhBortles wrote:Per the 2017 thread, there was a Jan 15 wave last year (Wednesday) so I think Wednesday the 14th, Thursday the 15th, and Friday the 16th should all be options, along with a few more pessimistic options i.e. Wednesday the 21st, Friday the 23rd, and the ever-popular Literally Never.

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I thought it'd be today, based on the fact that the first waves after the new year last year (1/15 and 1/22) were one week apart.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by jemthey17 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:38 pm

theramblingfool wrote:
OhBoyOhBortles wrote:Per the 2017 thread, there was a Jan 15 wave last year (Wednesday) so I think Wednesday the 14th, Thursday the 15th, and Friday the 16th should all be options, along with a few more pessimistic options i.e. Wednesday the 21st, Friday the 23rd, and the ever-popular Literally Never.

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NU is my first choice. I'd like to stop wondering. To that end, I know for a fact a wave of decisions will come out today. :)
Do you actually know this or are you just hoping?

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by OhBoyOhBortles » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:42 pm

Thanks smcc. Should help take my mind off my admissions anxiety for a bit.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by ChemEng1642 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:53 pm

smccgrey wrote:ok kids, new poll
yay!

but wait

where is literally never??

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by ChemEng1642 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:01 pm

smccgrey wrote:
ChemEng1642 wrote:
smccgrey wrote:ok kids, new poll
yay!

but wait

where is literally never??
oops.
eh that's ok - later than the above pretty much covers it but with less angst :P

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by Phattypattyfrost » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:28 pm

Has anyone had any status updates since first going complete/will we get a date update before decisions are released?

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by Tr3 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:33 pm

Phattypattyfrost wrote:Has anyone had any status updates since first going complete/will we get a date update before decisions are released?
Some people have (including me). But not sure what it means. Complete date updated in December, but I wasn't a part of the last round of decisions.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

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When did you go complete?

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Post by Tr3 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:58 pm

Phattypattyfrost wrote:When did you go complete?
Mid november

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by Phattypattyfrost » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:05 pm

I'm 11/25... :x Oh well, I'll just sit tight and stop obsessing... Maybe.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by rkspurs21 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:06 pm

Phattypattyfrost wrote:Has anyone had any status updates since first going complete/will we get a date update before decisions are released?
Complete 12/2, updated 1/9. No idea what it means.

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Re: Northwestern Law c/o 2018 Applicants

Post by OhBoyOhBortles » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:31 pm

Radio silence from Johann's twitter account. Don't think today is the day.

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