Interesting. All the more reason for reverse splitters to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, score higher on the LSAT, and punch their own ticket to UT (or whereever it is that they want to attend).Attax wrote:They may be holding to see how the class turns out. Probably a good thing, it seems that they ding once you are below 167 pretty independently of GPA so far, unless URM. Meaning you aren't ding worthy, but I think they're trying to up the LSAT median and then will work on GPA after that. I would take lack of a ding as a good sign at this point considering this graph.abolin wrote:LSAT- right at 25%
GPA- >75%
Been complete and under review since October 11. Texas resident. Haven't been dinged yet. Assuming that's a good sign?
http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1314
Good luck! Plus as a TX resident here I submitted 11/30 and was accepted on 12/17.
To build upon it, I drew a mental trend line through the previous data (not linear, more evident of exponential decay really) and the following data from last year's admissions gave me the following numbers for a certain "autoadmittance" as in nearly everyone at this X LSAT and above the GPA indicated were admitted. There are some outliers (and of course many below), but it is more of a way to gauge from last year. However, so far for this year, it seems as if 167+ is in, and that below 167 GPA is mostly irrelevant so far. I'd take that as a sign that reverse splitters who are being held will have a better chance later on.
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Definitely, I think that reverse splitters really would probably be well suited, especially if not a URM (which all those below 167 who were admitted seem to be) to send in a LOInterest as well as make themselves seem genuinely interested in UT. From what I've gathered in my communications with them, YP is very high this year.BigZuck wrote:Interesting. All the more reason for reverse splitters to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, score higher on the LSAT, and punch their own ticket to UT (or whereever it is that they want to attend).Attax wrote:They may be holding to see how the class turns out. Probably a good thing, it seems that they ding once you are below 167 pretty independently of GPA so far, unless URM. Meaning you aren't ding worthy, but I think they're trying to up the LSAT median and then will work on GPA after that. I would take lack of a ding as a good sign at this point considering this graph.abolin wrote:LSAT- right at 25%
GPA- >75%
Been complete and under review since October 11. Texas resident. Haven't been dinged yet. Assuming that's a good sign?
http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1314
Good luck! Plus as a TX resident here I submitted 11/30 and was accepted on 12/17.
To build upon it, I drew a mental trend line through the previous data (not linear, more evident of exponential decay really) and the following data from last year's admissions gave me the following numbers for a certain "autoadmittance" as in nearly everyone at this X LSAT and above the GPA indicated were admitted. There are some outliers (and of course many below), but it is more of a way to gauge from last year. However, so far for this year, it seems as if 167+ is in, and that below 167 GPA is mostly irrelevant so far. I'd take that as a sign that reverse splitters who are being held will have a better chance later on.
GPA LSAT
3.83 163
3.8 164
3.75 165
3.7 166
3.64 167
3.4 168
3.3 169
any 170
Similar data for this year from what is so far available:
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>167 >2.0
166 3.8
165 3.72 (if non URM)
160/3.55 is the only reported non-URM less than a 165 who was admitted.
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IN! Just got the call. I'm a 17X/2.XX splitter, so I was not holding my breath. Hopefully that bodes well for other splitters. 

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Oh it does, out of the 3 "woah can't believe they got in when looking at past trends" here:Savage13 wrote:IN! Just got the call. I'm a 17X/2.XX splitter, so I was not holding my breath. Hopefully that bodes well for other splitters.
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Makes sense! Graph was definitely helpful, so thanks for that. May submit a Why Texas soon. I just hate waiting so long if I'm going to get dinged anyway! Just be straight up with me! hahaAttax wrote:They may be holding to see how the class turns out. Probably a good thing, it seems that they ding once you are below 167 pretty independently of GPA so far, unless URM. Meaning you aren't ding worthy, but I think they're trying to up the LSAT median and then will work on GPA after that. I would take lack of a ding as a good sign at this point considering this graph.abolin wrote:LSAT- right at 25%
GPA- >75%
Been complete and under review since October 11. Texas resident. Haven't been dinged yet. Assuming that's a good sign?
http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1314
Good luck! Plus as a TX resident here I submitted 11/30 and was accepted on 12/17.
To build upon it, I drew a mental trend line through the previous data (not linear, more evident of exponential decay really) and the following data from last year's admissions gave me the following numbers for a certain "autoadmittance" as in nearly everyone at this X LSAT and above the GPA indicated were admitted. There are some outliers (and of course many below), but it is more of a way to gauge from last year. However, so far for this year, it seems as if 167+ is in, and that below 167 GPA is mostly irrelevant so far. I'd take that as a sign that reverse splitters who are being held will have a better chance later on.
GPA LSAT
3.83 163
3.8 164
3.75 165
3.7 166
3.64 167
3.4 168
3.3 169
any 170
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Re: Texas c/o 2017 Applicants (2013-2014 cycle)
How quickly after submitting the requested optional Why UT? essay did people hear back?
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Submitted my Why UT? on a Thursday night, acknowledged as received on Friday, accepted the next Monday, got a call with the official acceptance on Wednesday (status checker and letters in the mail show I was accepted Monday but they didn't call me or change the status checker until later).
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Thanks! Any word on scholarships?cannibal ox wrote:Submitted my Why UT? on a Thursday night, acknowledged as received on Friday, accepted the next Monday, got a call with the official acceptance on Wednesday (status checker and letters in the mail show I was accepted Monday but they didn't call me or change the status checker until later).
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You should be considered within 4 week of an acceptance, if it's been longer, you aren't getting an offer.
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were you invited to write this or you just voluntarily decided to write it? thanks !cannibal ox wrote:Submitted my Why UT? on a Thursday night, acknowledged as received on Friday, accepted the next Monday, got a call with the official acceptance on Wednesday (status checker and letters in the mail show I was accepted Monday but they didn't call me or change the status checker until later).
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Invited to write it, but I'm sure they'd accept one if you wanted to write it.
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Writing Why X statements or including it on your app somehow is pretty credited for all applications IMO. And if you can't think of a decent Why X (or you can't fake it enough if you're just trying to use that school for scholarship negotiation purposes) then I honestly wouldn't even bother applying to that school.
As I remember it though, the UT application was pretty sparse so you might have to send the Why X as a seperate addendum.
As I remember it though, the UT application was pretty sparse so you might have to send the Why X as a seperate addendum.
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Just got a phone call, I'm in!
Was asked for a Why UT submission, sent it yesterday, got the call today. Woo!
Was asked for a Why UT submission, sent it yesterday, got the call today. Woo!
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DON'T GIVE UP HOPE ON SCHOLARSHIPS
Dean Ingram said 4 weeks, I just got an email with scholarship info. $7,000/year.
Dean Ingram said 4 weeks, I just got an email with scholarship info. $7,000/year.
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I submitted my application 2 weeks ago, and still haven't gotten a status checker. Does anyone know when they send those out?
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what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
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Any T14 is good to use and probably what motivates them the most. Vandy, UCLA, and USC might do the trick as well. Problem is its kind of hard (IMO) to say UT is your top choice alongside a school like USC.angels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
WUSTL's random "FULL RIDES FOR EVERYBODY!!!" last year also motivated them but that might have been a one time only thing. Dean Ingram didn't seem particularly happy with them and their shenanigans.
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What about UH/SMU?BigZuck wrote:Any T14 is good to use and probably what motivates them the most. Vandy, UCLA, and USC might do the trick as well. Problem is its kind of hard (IMO) to say UT is your top choice alongside a school like USC.angels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
WUSTL's random "FULL RIDES FOR EVERYBODY!!!" last year also motivated them but that might have been a one time only thing. Dean Ingram didn't seem particularly happy with them and their shenanigans.
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Always worth a shot. I would have to imagine that they would only be motivated by large scholarships from those schools however. UT likes to spin their affordability for instate students (lulz at 33K a year being affordable) and while those are both decent schools, there is a pretty sizeable gap between them and UT. If you can't get accepted to a school ranked in the top 20 or so I would definitely throw apps at UH, SMU, and Baylor to see if you can use those as leverage. It's better than nothing.BentleyLittle wrote:What about UH/SMU?BigZuck wrote:Any T14 is good to use and probably what motivates them the most. Vandy, UCLA, and USC might do the trick as well. Problem is its kind of hard (IMO) to say UT is your top choice alongside a school like USC.angels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
WUSTL's random "FULL RIDES FOR EVERYBODY!!!" last year also motivated them but that might have been a one time only thing. Dean Ingram didn't seem particularly happy with them and their shenanigans.
I think the key is to be sincere. Dean Ingram says that if you want to be a Longhorn then she's interested in helping you out.
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Nice, thanks for the info. I love TexasBigZuck wrote:Always worth a shot. I would have to imagine that they would only be motivated by large scholarships from those schools however. UT likes to spin their affordability for instate students (lulz at 33K a year being affordable) and while those are both decent schools, there is a pretty sizeable gap between them and UT. If you can't get accepted to a school ranked in the top 20 or so I would definitely throw apps at UH, SMU, and Baylor to see if you can use those as leverage. It's better than nothing.BentleyLittle wrote:What about UH/SMU?BigZuck wrote:Any T14 is good to use and probably what motivates them the most. Vandy, UCLA, and USC might do the trick as well. Problem is its kind of hard (IMO) to say UT is your top choice alongside a school like USC.angels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
WUSTL's random "FULL RIDES FOR EVERYBODY!!!" last year also motivated them but that might have been a one time only thing. Dean Ingram didn't seem particularly happy with them and their shenanigans.
I think the key is to be sincere. Dean Ingram says that if you want to be a Longhorn then she's interested in helping you out.

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Can't be happier to hear these words!!! Well first I'll have to wait for them to admit meBigZuck wrote:Always worth a shot. I would have to imagine that they would only be motivated by large scholarships from those schools however. UT likes to spin their affordability for instate students (lulz at 33K a year being affordable) and while those are both decent schools, there is a pretty sizeable gap between them and UT. If you can't get accepted to a school ranked in the top 20 or so I would definitely throw apps at UH, SMU, and Baylor to see if you can use those as leverage. It's better than nothing.BentleyLittle wrote:What about UH/SMU?BigZuck wrote:Any T14 is good to use and probably what motivates them the most. Vandy, UCLA, and USC might do the trick as well. Problem is its kind of hard (IMO) to say UT is your top choice alongside a school like USC.angels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
WUSTL's random "FULL RIDES FOR EVERYBODY!!!" last year also motivated them but that might have been a one time only thing. Dean Ingram didn't seem particularly happy with them and their shenanigans.
I think the key is to be sincere. Dean Ingram says that if you want to be a Longhorn then she's interested in helping you out.

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UH/SMU, T14, WUStLangels2fly wrote:what would people say are peer schools to negotiate with UT for?
What I do know is they do not consider Baylor a peer school, so I would assume Tech, Texas A&M, etc., aren't peer simply because they're in state.
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