Harvard 2010! Forum

[adameus]

Complete since feb 11th...162-3.8 berk grad URM...Have not heard a word since..Am I seriously been considered? What are your guy's thoughts?

my guess would be a waitlist given how long you have been complete. But all that is, is a guess.

[ToriM]

Complete since feb 11th...162-3.8 berk grad URM...Have not heard a word since..Am I seriously been considered? What are your guy's thoughts?

For what its worth, my girlfriend got into Harvard pretty late last year with similar stats, and she applied fairly early. Her impression was that URM candidates (particularly AA, if that's what you are) without auto-admit numbers, for whatever reason, generally tend to have exceptionally long cycles at Harvard.

That being said, that long without any word sounds dubious. I'm in the same boat and pretty much expect to get axed tomorrow...

[blue5385]

1 rejection on LSN today. http://lawschoolnumbers.com/dysonfree Very few rejections at a time it seems, they haven't been using the typical batch process.

*ran to gmail; inbox empty; breathed a mixed sigh of relief and disappointment*

[existenz]

Just another day waitin' for my Harvard ding. I submitted 12/15, was held on 3/15.

[soonergirl]

Complete since feb 11th...162-3.8 berk grad URM...Have not heard a word since..Am I seriously been considered? What are your guy's thoughts?

They may be waiting to see if any of the admitted and similarly-qualified URMs decline.

[Core]

Complete since feb 11th...162-3.8 berk grad URM...Have not heard a word since..Am I seriously been considered? What are your guy's thoughts?

For what its worth, my girlfriend got into Harvard pretty late last year with similar stats, and she applied fairly early. Her impression was that URM candidates (particularly AA, if that's what you are) without auto-admit numbers, for whatever reason, generally tend to have exceptionally long cycles at Harvard.

That being said, that long without any word sounds dubious. I'm in the same boat and pretty much expect to get axed tomorrow...

I am really hoping that I'm just experiencing a long cycle, as described above, because I don't have autoadmit numbers, and that I won't wake up to a rejection from HLS (or SLS or CLS) in the morning.

[Core]

Complete since feb 11th...162-3.8 berk grad URM...Have not heard a word since..Am I seriously been considered? What are your guy's thoughts?

They may be waiting to see if any of the admitted and similarly-qualified URMs decline.

This is probably true.

[blue5385]

less than half an hour left (Harvard time) until the WL bloodbath that is 4/15 ensues.

(unless HLS flips the script on us and maintains silence all day tomorrow...I hope not because I've already mentally prepared myself)

[Illijah]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

[rupert.pupkin]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

[nawktasy]

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

Why are you so TTT? Kthxbai!

[rupert.pupkin]

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

Why are you so TTT? Kthxbai!

lol

[blue5385]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

[Boba Fett]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

You need to GTFO.

[cincinnatus]

Why the hostility? Lots of posts in this thread have said something like, "It's Dean Rubenstein's first year so we can't rely on admissions patterns from previous years," right?

That said, I hope it does happen today/tomorrow. Of course it's better to be accepted in May than waitlisted in April, but if I'm to be waitlisted anyway, I want to get it over with quickly I can handle disappointment better than uncertainty.

[clintonius]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

Poster fails to consider the possibility that we have considered the possibility.

[Unitas]

Why does everyone think waitlists are coming tommorrow?

Because they're failing to consider the possibility that what has happened in the past will not continue to happen in the future.

Poster fails to consider the possibility that we have considered the possibility.

ITT, we have considered almost all possibilities. Generally, depending on our mood of the day/hour/minute, if happy we settle on the possibility most advantageous to us or if sad the possibility most disadvantageous to us. Like, before my hold I just assumed my rejection e-mail got lost in the internet cloud… Now today I am sure they are going through holds in order held so I am good. This afternoon I will probably be sad and assume the WL e-mail is on its way.

We consider them, than we dismiss them. HTH…

BTW, I sent myself an e-mail about ten minutes ago so I can show it at school.. I still was nervous to look when my phone started vibrating an e-mail was received...

[blue5385]

ha, +1 to Unitas. Like yesterday at 10 pm, I was so thrilled to finally be getting out of work after 13 hours that I felt like I wouldn't get the WL axe today. However, this morning, I am depressed to be back and facing a shitload of work, so I'm pretty convinced that I won't just get waitlisted today/in the near future, but will get an outright ding.

[Unitas]

Seriously, no one has heard anything today?? I am somewhat shocked.

[of Benito Cereno]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/educa ... ef=general
judging by the huge number of wait-listed hls students in previous years I bet HLS's waitlist is much larger than its incoming class. Probably at least 1,000 waitlists.

[blue5385]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/educa ... ef=general
judging by the huge number of wait-listed hls students in previous years I bet HLS's waitlist is much larger than its incoming class. Probably at least 1,000 waitlists.

I'm sure HLS does have a long enough waiting list that it's hard to get in off of it, but I don't think the same considerations that apply to undergrad schools apply to HLS (or other law schools at the very top). They do want diversity in the class, of course, but I feel like there are a lot of differences between when I was applying to UG (my weakness then was that I probably wasn't 'well-rounded' enough and was too one-dimensional with very high grades & test scores) and the current LS application process. IMO, undergrad schools care a lot more about soft factors than law schools, so it would make sense for them to have a bigger waiting list because they have a larger range of areas where they want to ensure diversity in the incoming class, and a large waitlist allows them to cover their bases in regard to that. Some schools will have a huge waitlist because they are YP-happy, but HLS doesn't fall into that category. I dunno...I just don't think HLS will be one of those schools with a ginormous waiting list. They'd probably rather just ding people who aren't up to their standards.

[blue5385]

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[Nom Sawyer]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/educa ... ef=general
judging by the huge number of wait-listed hls students in previous years I bet HLS's waitlist is much larger than its incoming class. Probably at least 1,000 waitlists.

I'm sure HLS does have a long enough waiting list that it's hard to get in off of it, but I don't think the same considerations that apply to undergrad schools apply to HLS (or other law schools at the very top). They do want diversity in the class, of course, but I feel like there are a lot of differences between when I was applying to UG (my weakness then was that I probably wasn't 'well-rounded' enough and was too one-dimensional with very high grades & test scores) and the current LS application process. IMO, undergrad schools care a lot more about soft factors than law schools, so it would make sense for them to have a bigger waiting list because they have a larger range of areas where they want to ensure diversity in the incoming class, and a large waitlist allows them to cover their bases in regard to that. Some schools will have a huge waitlist because they are YP-happy, but HLS doesn't fall into that category. I dunno...I just don't think HLS will be one of those schools with a ginormous waiting list. They'd probably rather just ding people who aren't up to their standards.

It sounds like schools often accept off the waiting list in particular response to certain needs, such as replacing a High LSAT or finishing the balance for diversity... thus I'd think that the waitlist would still be pretty large, but definitely not on the order of larger than the class.

A couple hundred at most would be my guess.

[of Benito Cereno]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/educa ... ef=general
judging by the huge number of wait-listed hls students in previous years I bet HLS's waitlist is much larger than its incoming class. Probably at least 1,000 waitlists.

I'm sure HLS does have a long enough waiting list that it's hard to get in off of it, but I don't think the same considerations that apply to undergrad schools apply to HLS (or other law schools at the very top). They do want diversity in the class, of course, but I feel like there are a lot of differences between when I was applying to UG (my weakness then was that I probably wasn't 'well-rounded' enough and was too one-dimensional with very high grades & test scores) and the current LS application process. IMO, undergrad schools care a lot more about soft factors than law schools, so it would make sense for them to have a bigger waiting list because they have a larger range of areas where they want to ensure diversity in the incoming class, and a large waitlist allows them to cover their bases in regard to that. Some schools will have a huge waitlist because they are YP-happy, but HLS doesn't fall into that category. I dunno...I just don't think HLS will be one of those schools with a ginormous waiting list. They'd probably rather just ding people who aren't up to their standards.

It sounds like schools often accept off the waiting list in particular response to certain needs, such as replacing a High LSAT or finishing the balance for diversity... thus I'd think that the waitlist would still be pretty large, but definitely not on the order of larger than the class.

A couple hundred at most would be my guess.

well over a hundred on lsn alone last year.... thats huge

[blue5385]

It sounds like schools often accept off the waiting list in particular response to certain needs, such as replacing a High LSAT or finishing the balance for diversity... thus I'd think that the waitlist would still be pretty large, but definitely not on the order of larger than the class.

A couple hundred at most would be my guess.

yeah, my guess would be closer to that number than over 550-600. In the article Benito posted, an adcomm from Duke undergrad (IIRC) spoke about how they sometimes don't have enough oboe or violin players in their incoming class and have to pull off the waitlist to fill the gap. Law schools want diversity in many areas, but I don't think there are enough specialized little niches like violin players or people from Hawaii that they want to fill in order to justify an enormous waitlist.